Cost of drill and water pump set up YARD WATER

[Vette73]

Anybody know how much it cost to drill and setup a basic water pump? I need one for the yard so the basic one is fine. Yard is maybe 1/4 to 1/3 acre. The city, Cary NC, has very high water cost and when you water your lawn you are double charged as you get billed for 1 gallon of water and 1 gallon of sewage even if there is no sewage.

I tried serching google but got no real answers on cost and how to set it up. if you have a good site, or sites, that would be great.

Thanks

 

[davew0670]

Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Anybody know how much it cost to drill and setup a basic water pump? I need one for the yard so the basic one is fine. Yard is maybe 1/4 to 1/3 acre. The city, Cary NC, has very high water cost and when you water your lawn you are double charged as you get billed for 1 gallon of water and 1 gallon of sewage even if there is no sewage.

I tried serching google but got no real answers on cost and how to set it up. if you have a good site, or sites, that would be great.

Thanks

hmmm..I may be getting the same thing done to me. Im in Charlotte. I was just noticing that our sewage fee was double our water fee.

 

[Kelemvor]

How do they know you are watering your yard? Just get a timer and have it water at like 3AM.

But anyway, you can't just drill a well anywhere you want. You need to get permissions from the city I'd assume so might want to check with them.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: FrankyJunior
How do they know you are watering your yard? Just get a timer and have it water at like 3AM.

But anyway, you can't just drill a well anywhere you want. You need to get permissions from the city I'd assume so might want to check with them.

They don't, he's saying they bill for sewage regardless because they don't know what he's using the water for. Many towns do that.

 

[Vette73]

Originally posted by: FrankyJunior
How do they know you are watering your yard? Just get a timer and have it water at like 3AM.

Edit: mugs beat me to it, and also correct.


Thats the problem. When you water the lawn you use the water but not the sewage part. When you flush the toiliet you use both the water and sewage. But there is only 1 meter and that just says person A used 2000gallons of water so charge person A with 2000gallons water and 2000gallons of sewage useage fees.

I want to run a pump to save sewage fees, whcih are high. In fact last month the water bill was higher then the power bill. Also Cary has a rule that you can;t water on certain days, so I am hopeing since I would not be using THEIR water I can water my lawn when I feel, but that is not a big deal just the fees and cost.

I see soem pumps at Lowes.com and such but not sure what else I need and how much it cost to have someone drill the well????

Thanks

 

[amdskip]

Ha, a well will cost at least $8,000 if not more.

 

[Vette73]

Originally posted by: amdskip
Ha, a well will cost at least $8,000 if not more.

WTF? I am not talking about a HUGH well, just a drill well to run a pipe to the pump. Ranges from 75-200 feet seem to be most common.

Not lookign for a "well" to put a bucket into What are you thinking of?

 

[HomeBrewerDude]

i remember reading about non well water systems that basically capture and store rain water. There is also some landscaping that you can do to keep the water in the yard rather than running off onto the sidewalk and down the street.

 

[drnickriviera]

Neighbor had a 160' well put in for around $5000. What's your water table like there?

 

[waggy]

we had one put in for $2000 but that was about 10 years ago.

Now septic tanks are expensive! ugh

 

[notfred]

Originally posted by: Marlin1975

Originally posted by: amdskip
Ha, a well will cost at least $8,000 if not more.

WTF? I am not talking about a HUGH well, just a drill well to run a pipe to the pump. Ranges from 75-200 feet seem to be most common.

Not lookign for a "well" to put a bucket into What are you thinking of?

Wells are expensive. How much do you think a 200 foot long drill mounted on a truck costs to purchase and operate?

It costs several thousand dollars to put in a well.

And no, no one has wells with buckets in them, they're all just pipes and pumps.

 

[Carazariah]

Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Anybody know how much it cost to drill and setup a basic water pump? I need one for the yard so the basic one is fine. Yard is maybe 1/4 to 1/3 acre. The city, Cary NC, has very high water cost and when you water your lawn you are double charged as you get billed for 1 gallon of water and 1 gallon of sewage even if there is no sewage.

I tried serching google but got no real answers on cost and how to set it up. if you have a good site, or sites, that would be great.

Thanks

North Carolina well drillers (not sure how close Cary is to Charlotte, They should be able to give you an actual estimate.
http://www.superpages.com/yellowpages/C...umps+Sales+&+Service/S-NC/T-Charlotte/

I would say the poster who said $8k was about right for a potable water well in a non limestone or solid rock area. But for what your talking about the last suggestion about rainwater collection may be best and the least expensive option. Don't forget that local laws and regulations usually highly restrict who can drill even on your own property, so you should check out the local regulations. .
One link to irrigation rainwater system. . .

Irrigation systems could be as little as $50 dollars for the barrell, plus the cost to hook up the pvc to your downspout etc, but if you wanted presurized water you would need both a pressure tank and a pump, which would add several hundred dollars.

Read the links and good luck.

C

 

[rahvin]

Originally posted by: CarazariahDon't forget that local laws and regulations usually highly restrict who can drill even on your own property, so you should check out the local regulations.

This should be emphasized. An improperly sunk well could damage the water table and affect the potable water supplies. I can't think of a single jurisidiction that doesn't have complete regularatory authority over well drilling. If you sink a well without a permit you can go to jail in some jurisidictions and if you do in fact damage the potable water supplies you are going to be paying for remediation.

 

[Vette73]

bump for anybody that has had this done recently.

 

[Ornery]

I need and how much it cost to have someone drill the well????

I figure around $4,000 in our area, but water table is high. Consider the sewer bill a "tax" on wasting water. You'll have to pay for a decent chunk of electricity to pump that water, since the pump will be anywhere from 1/3 to 1/2HP. Man, you must REALLY love your lawn!

I hear people out west and in the deserts, who are totally dependent on finite aquifers, tend to water lawns where none should exist. Brilliant! :roll:

I also love how developers bulldoze all the trees in a subdivision, then residents get to try and keep their homes cool, and grass green in the shadeless sun!

 

[JoeKing]

just tap into your septic tank :evil:

 

[meltdown75]

the lawn-watering ban here was lifted a couple of days ago. :Q

it's not as crazy as it seems - they were replacing some kind of engine at the pumping station and asked the residents of our municipality not to water their lawns for 2 weeks. some of my grass died. i'm going to water every night for a while now though, and i suspect / hope that it will come back at least a little bit.

the neighbour is having a sprinkler system installed and eventually that'll be the way to go for us too. lots of $ - probably between $4-5k or so judging from recent estimates? ultimately, i will have THE KILLER LAWN... >

 

[dullard]

Sounds like serious overkill.

Your water supplier must suck. Where I live, they take the averge water use during winter months and charge sewer fees for the whole year based on that. Thus watering the lawn and washing your car never impact the sewer fee.

 

[Vette73]

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They do. In fact they just passed a bond to add on the water system in Cary NC. Of course that means higher water/sewer bills to pay off the bond.
So that is why we are trying to think of anything to bring the water bill down.

 

[HomeBrewerDude]

Originally posted by: Marlin1975
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They do. In fact they just passed a bond to add on the water system in Cary NC. Of course that means higher water/sewer bills to pay off the bond.
So that is why we are trying to think of anything to bring the water bill down.

depending on the cost to drill, you might be able to put in cistern system that catches and stores rain water....certainly cheaper to operate than a well pump.

http://www.twdb.state.tx.us/publications/reports/RainHarv.pdf

 

[skyking]

many municipalities use a "deduct" meter. You install seperate piping with a double check valve backflow preventer, and a deduct meter. It gets read and the sewage part of your bill gets "deducted" the amount on that second meter.

 

[OffTopic1]

1. Can you get a permit to have a water well?
2. Depends on what you have to drill through to get to water in your property (rock/clay/etc...)
3. Depends on how many holes you are going to try befor hitting water.
4. Depends on how deep you have to go to get water.
5. Depends on the type of pump you want/have to use (volume/head)

Cheapest set up will be less than $500 if you are pumping from a creek/pond with less than 6 feet of head, and upward to $15,000 for a deep well with reservoir tank. Typically most people look at $3000~7000 for an average well with a servicing life of 7~11 year before pump/line needed to be replace (replacement cost from $700~800 to about $3000).

Honestly it is cheaper to get your water from the city, and the only time that you drill if there is a harsh water restriction that hampers your water usage. And, it is only time that it might be cheaper if can tap directly into a lake/river for your water usage (also there are other costs such as of electricity/fuel).

 

[OffTopic1]

A more viable solution is to have a reservoir to capture your rain water, and grey water to water your lawn.

It only requires a cheap pump (no need for a pressure tank), reservoir tank or ditch, and a few ABS/PCV pipes.