Corvette ZR1... I don't get this car.

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JulesMaximus

JulesMaximus

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Looking through the latest issue of Road & Track, the Z06 is so close to the ZR1 in ever performance category measured that I honestly think the ZR1 is a waste of money. An extra $30 grand gets you to 60mph from a standtill 1/10th of a second faster than the Z06, 1 mph in the slalom, .02 fewer G's on the skidpad, 2/10ths of a second in the 1/4 mile, 1 foot MORE stopping distance from 60mph, and 1 foot less stopping distance from 80mph.

The writer was saying that he couldn't really get the ZR1 to perform on the track, he would run up the straights too hot and then get the braking all wrong. It took a race car driver to get the best lap out of it.
 
Gillbot

Gillbot

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More of a "collector" car than anything IMHO. You are paying for the name/collectibility of it.
 
DVad3r

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That's why in that article everyone favored the Z06. Still if you have the money why not? I'd personally get a Z06 :) Loved that car for years now, probably my realistic dream car :)
 
IcePickFreak

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Well if it took a "race car driver" to get better times, the guy probably couldn't handle more power in a 3300lb car. Traction is obviously going to be the biggest problem with that much power on stock tires, so adding more power isn't going to make you any faster (except maybe going into the wall.) If they ditched the stock tires in favor of some real tires (on both of them) you'd likely see the gap widen. Still though, if you look around the net you'll find stock ZR1's on the stock tires well into the 10s, while a stock C6 Z06 is lucky to dip into the 11s.

That said, I'll take the NA 7L - I'd opt for a Z06 given the choice.
 
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JackBurton

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I always liked the way the Z06 looked over the ZR-1....until I saw the ZR-1 Centennial Special Edition in person! WOW! The thing looked GORGEOUS!

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The numbers are close, but punch the ZR-1 at 40mph and watch it fly and leave the Z06 in the dust. Mind you, I LOVE the Z06, but the ZR-1 is just something special.
 
Dr. Detroit

Dr. Detroit

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Is this for a standard Z06 or for the Z06 with Z07 performance package?

You can option out a Z06 to over $100K now so its not really a $30K difference when you compare similar amenities.
 
foghorn67

foghorn67

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The ZR-1 is a GT car. The Z06 is an all get out race car.
However, they are both not for novices on track day. Even GM recommends using the driver aids set to aggressive rather than leaving them off.
The ZR-1 is actually quite compliant during daily driving, the Z06 is a tad harsh.
 
KentState

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JulesMaximus said:
Looking through the latest issue of Road & Track, the Z06 is so close to the ZR1 in ever performance category measured that I honestly think the ZR1 is a waste of money. An extra $30 grand gets you to 60mph from a standtill 1/10th of a second faster than the Z06, 1 mph in the slalom, .02 fewer G's on the skidpad, 2/10ths of a second in the 1/4 mile, 1 foot MORE stopping distance from 60mph, and 1 foot less stopping distance from 80mph.

The writer was saying that he couldn't really get the ZR1 to perform on the track, he would run up the straights too hot and then get the braking all wrong. It took a race car driver to get the best lap out of it.
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It's a much smaller gap if you are comparing a Z06 with all the options that makes it competitive with the ZR1. Before they started offering the brake, tire and magnetic suspension upgrades, the performance difference was much more visible. IMO, the Z07 is for serious track usage while the ZR1 is a collector/partial track car.
 
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j&j

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or how about the fully forged ls9? that motor alone is worth a bit more than the ls7, just a pulley swap + tune and you can have some fun, or go big blower + e85 and have some REAL fun.


also, take off the fucking 20's in the back of the zr-1, jesus christ that's dumb and one of the big reasons it and the z06 are so close in some performance numbers.


did anyone see the thread of a zr-1 with drag radials (stock otherwise) running low 10's? what other car can do that?
 
Elfear

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IcePickFreak said:
Well if it took a "race car driver" to get better times, the guy probably couldn't handle more power in a 3300lb car. Traction is obviously going to be the biggest problem with that much power on stock tires, so adding more power isn't going to make you any faster (except maybe going into the wall.) If they ditched the stock tires in favor of some real tires (on both of them) you'd likely see the gap widen. Still though, if you look around the net you'll find stock ZR1's on the stock tires well into the 10s, while a stock C6 Z06 is lucky to dip into the 11s.
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+1

Tires make a big difference at higher horsepower levels. With both on drag radials you'd see a 1/2 second difference in the 1/4 mile.
 
TakeNoPrisoners

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The ZR1 has the supercharger which would make it tamer to drive around town. The Z06 is all engine which makes it a bit more difficult to drive normally.

It isn't about track times. It's about having the horsepower of a supercar for way less then the imports.
 
TheHashmaster

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+1 on the tires. i hate how they said the c6.r burried the competition. well obviously, it has racing slicks on, that makes an insane difference.

the zr-1 with drag radials can do a 10.6 1/4 mile stock, which is very impressive.
 
exar333

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j&j said:
or how about the fully forged ls9? that motor alone is worth a bit more than the ls7, just a pulley swap + tune and you can have some fun, or go big blower + e85 and have some REAL fun.


also, take off the fucking 20's in the back of the zr-1, jesus christ that's dumb and one of the big reasons it and the z06 are so close in some performance numbers.


did anyone see the thread of a zr-1 with drag radials (stock otherwise) running low 10's? what other car can do that?
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THIS. Give me a car that is already FI and it will be a lot easier to tune and get more power easily.
 
overst33r

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Like others have said. The ZR1 needs an expert to fully expose the extra 130hp. Corvettes have never been good at putting their power down.

Even then, the difference is slight because the car is such a handful.

Nurburgring
Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 7:19.63
Chevrolet Corvette Z06 Z07 Package 7:22.68 (Pilot Sport Cup Tires)

The ZR1 IS faster, more comfortable, more moddable, etc.
But there is something intangible one experiences when you take a 7.0L V8 to redline.
 
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thomsbrain

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I would have wanted the ZR-1 for the magnetic shocks, but I think you can get those with the Z07 package on the Z06, right?
 
Ketchup

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As others have said, 0-60 times are no way to judge the performance of a car like this. The car has too hard a time hooking up with stock tires. Look at the higher speed specs (to 100, 150, etc) and you really start to see it pull away.
 
JulesMaximus

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fbrdphreak said:
Fixed that for you.

Myself, I want a Grand Sport 6MT Vette. Perfect combination of DD and Z06-bits IMO.
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Most bang for the buck for sure. I see tons of them for sale around here too. If I didn't work so far from home I'd seriously think about one as a daily driver.
 
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JeffreyLebowski

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JulesMaximus said:
Looking through the latest issue of Road & Track, the Z06 is so close to the ZR1 in ever performance category measured that I honestly think the ZR1 is a waste of money. An extra $30 grand gets you to 60mph from a standtill 1/10th of a second faster than the Z06, 1 mph in the slalom, .02 fewer G's on the skidpad, 2/10ths of a second in the 1/4 mile, 1 foot MORE stopping distance from 60mph, and 1 foot less stopping distance from 80mph.

The writer was saying that he couldn't really get the ZR1 to perform on the track, he would run up the straights too hot and then get the braking all wrong. It took a race car driver to get the best lap out of it.
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The ZR1 comes with a 2 day high performance driving school program. Take the class. Or you'll end up like the guy here that wrecked his the 1st month he had it.


DVad3r said:
That's why in that article everyone favored the Z06. Still if you have the money why not? I'd personally get a Z06 :) Loved that car for years now, probably my realistic dream car :)
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The thing about the ZR1 is, you have to have the money to get it and maintain it, but the good part is you don't have the have the money to purchase and maintain a Ferrari or other exotic that competes with it.
Also, the ZR1 is much more a collector car than a daily driver capable car that the stock Z06 is.
 
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