Corsair K70 RGB RAPIDFIRE MK.2 help

fire400

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Corsair K70 RGB RAPIDFIRE MK.2 vs Original/Previous MK.1 model

update on 7/17/2018: Keys on original 2017 version has a softer press to them, and does not require them to be broken into when receiving one new out of the box. I prefer the original, it has the "TRUE" RAPIDFIRE genuineness behind it that made it the flagship for 'extremely fast' ... the MK.2 RAPIDFIRE feels like an original Cherry MX switch and I would not recommend its purchase - Either get the original RAPIDFIRE (2017) or just get another keyboard, unless you really like white, aesthetically, the MK.2 SE is difficult to beat among other white keyboards.
The MK.2 SE is something most people would probably be more comfortable typing on, like writing e-mails or browsing or surfing the web, or just typing in general. But we're talking about spending $170 for 'extreme gaming', and not trying to get a good, balanced, typing experience.
Very disappointing.

Gamers, unite!

We're talking about the MSRP $170 version.

Just picked this up, but the keyboard feels physically lighter, the keystrokes don't feel as loose/fluid/speedy as the previous generation model. The keys are much stiffer than usual, requiring a heavier press to activate, and is far less comfortable.

I'm going crazy here! Has Corsair really downgraded from the previous version of the RAPIDFIRE model?

I'm extremely competitive in RTS gaming, and know the exact feel of the original K70 RGB RAPIDFIRE.
And yes, the BIOS is set to 1000hz. And no, the keyboard doesn't have to be broken in, it should be ready out of the box. Had the previous generation model before the MK.2 debuted, since January 2018, so both keyboards are still relatively new as of this writing. Many website reviews are saying both keyboards are exactly identical in feel, I have to disagree. Going to need to try another MK.2 and test the original K70 even closer, a brand new one.

Old one:
CORSAIR - RAPIDFIRE K70 Wired Gaming Mechanical Cherry MX Speed Switch Keyboard with RGB Backlighting - Black

New one:
CORSAIR - Gaming K70 RGB MK.2 RAPIDFIRE Mechanical Wired CHERRY MX Speed Switch Keyboard with RGB Back Lighting - Black
-does not have physical BIOS switches on the back of the keyboard (bad)

Someone please help me understand this. And if there's anything faster than RAPIDFIRE, please let me know, also. Thanks in advance!

iCUE software is terrible. Website reviews are praising its stability and 'smooth' functionality, I say otherwise, it's just horrible software and cluttered-crappy GUI and should just be torn down and rebuilt completely.
It's very buggy, and to say the least, not user friendly at all.

update: just placed an order for a brand new MK.1 model, and will be testing against a replacement MK.2 model.
Will uninstall the Corsair software entirely and attempt to see if there are any differences with two entirely brand new products, the upgraded model, and the previous generation. I'll update as soon as the replacement products arrive!

update: Acquired MK.2 SE (silver/ghost white) as a replacement, this is truly a beautiful keyboard... the colors are amazing. The surface layers have a more rough "matte" surface layer on the keys. Compared to the original MK.1, the rubber feet are larger in area, not necessarily taller, the kick out stands are roughly the same. For whatever reason, the feet closer to the bottom side of the keyboard were missing, as the original MK.1 allows to prop four legs out of the box. Didn't bother connecting the wrist rest, as generally speaking, typing and gaming with the wrists level-raised may be a better practice anyway for speed and physical wrist health.

update: Acquired a brand new in box, CORSAIR - RAPIDFIRE K70 original edition, untouched. the keys are much far, far easier to push in. Actuation force for pressure sensitivity being pushed downwards, is not as rigid or tough. Yes, the new version(s) and the original keyboards ARE NOT THE EXACT SAME. I can activate the keys on the original much, much quicker. On legacy systems, I can allow the keyboard to boot with a lower timing, as the physical switch is available without the need of installing the Corsair software to change the timing.
A default color profile can be modified burnt into the memory of the original version of the RAPIDFIRE, so that when the computer boots, the keyboard key colors can remain static and not flash glow, whereas on the MK.2, it's much harder to navigate or impossible to store a color profile onto the keyboard.
 
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DigDog

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Im guessing that you bought a k70 with a different switch. Just take off one of the keycaps and look at the stem color, and any writing on the switch housing (i.e. "kahil")

I like corsair as a brand but i dont like their keyboards.

As for speed, im sorry to disappoint you, but there is no advantage to be had in terms of speed. Some switches might be easier to actuate and the kb may poll slightly faster on older systems, but your game wont change, more so for RTS games.
 

cmdrdredd

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Im guessing that you bought a k70 with a different switch. Just take off one of the keycaps and look at the stem color, and any writing on the switch housing (i.e. "kahil")

I like corsair as a brand but i dont like their keyboards.

As for speed, im sorry to disappoint you, but there is no advantage to be had in terms of speed. Some switches might be easier to actuate and the kb may poll slightly faster on older systems, but your game wont change, more so for RTS games.

No the only advantage to them is they activate with less travel than other Cherry switches from what I know. I guess if you can get used to that you could in theory use it as some type of advantage to perform actions without bottoming out the key. My KB has them and I like it a lot, but it's a very personal opinion type of thing. They probably wouldn't be the best switch for a typist.
 

fire400

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Concerning competitive RTS gaming, I prefer the original RAPIDFIRE K70 RGB (2017) keyboard.

The new version of key switches activation is not the same, it's more stiff, and predictably boring, which does not set it apart enough from other Cherry MX switches.

The iCue software blows and sucks horribly, given their revenue in the market, wonder why they don't just construct a far, far better GUI and resource-mapper for controls.
And the profiles cannot distinguish between serial numbers so it seems, barely across new models, either, it has errors loading new profiles in upgraded models and needs to reload the software profiles. So if gamers share the desktop, and switch corsair keyboards of similar models or upgraded models of the peripherals, don't be too alarmed if the software glitches or even crashes.

Corsair just downgraded their RAPIDFIRE 2018 edition, and the software hasn't gotten much better.
 

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After searching and searching, found this one at Best Buy, it was the only one left in stock, and since returning to the store, have not seen the product sold ever again on the shelf.

Cooler Master - CK552 Wired Gaming Mechanical Gateron Red Switch Keyboard with RGB Back Lighting - Pure Black

Product is superior. Does not require installation of crappy Corsair software to modify keyboard and lights, and all of the memory options for lighting and disabling Windows key is burned directly into the keyboard hardware.
Keys are softer to press than even the original Rapidfire and the response times are truly amazing.
Lighting is much cleaner than the Corsair and the material finish for the keys are vastly superior in every way.
This is truly a masterpiece...
So glad I kept looking...

Thank you, Cooler Master, the last brand I would have considered.
Truly beautiful product.
 

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Update:

The hunt continues. These are in reference to experiment with competitive, fast paced RTS gaming. Typing is more difficult than usual with these keyboards, and takes some getting used to, however, for gamers that need the bleeding edge of speed, spam and aggressive handling, these two keyboards mentioned are recommended, but the Cooler Master is still top choice in its category of meeting or exceeding the extreme gamer handling speed, by far.

1. Ducky One 2 Illuminated Mechanical Gaming Keyboard - Cherry MX Silver
Taiwanese brand: "Ducky," awesome engineering and very smooth Cherry speed keys. Extremely durable and fun programming via hardware-based memory like the Cooler Master. Physically, the main chassis is heavier than compared to other keyboards, which is good. Feels like there's a click to it when pressing down on keys, but the click is near non-existent, very slick engineering - this isn't ideal though for hyper fast paced gaming, the HyperX below solves this issue. Ducky One takes a bit more work to activate keystrokes than compared to the HyperX if your fingers are a bit gentle, but great however if the gamer is very aggressive and wants that full-press invisible click feature with hardly any sound interference or too much noticeable impact on end-user performance.
Very fast, much better than the Corsair brand, but still not as fast as the Cooler Master.

2. HyperX - Alloy FPS RGB Mechanical Gaming Wired Kailh Speed Silver Switch.
Super fast and smooth, and durable, very high quality aesthetics, minimal physical chassis.
Feels very uniform and very well built. Similar to the Ducky, not better or worse, just slightly different, but better than Corsair. Very soft keys like the Cooler Master. Not better than the Cooler Master though very close, however, as the Cooler Master's keys have a much softer press (which as an end result requires far less work to activate successful keystrokes).
 
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DigDog

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Tbh what you experienced there isn't CM being sooooo much better than anything else, but rather that corsair makes horrible keyboards.
They make great ram, great psu, great coolers, but their keyboards are poo poo.