Corsair H70 or Coolit A.L.C.?

[garetjax]

So after poking around, I've decided to get one of those all-in-one water cooling setups. What are your opinions on the Corsair H70 versus Coolit's line of A.L.C.'s such as the ECO A.L.C., Vantage A.L.C., or the ECO C120 A.L.C.?

Basically, which one do you think will perform the best taking into consideration warranty, quality, customer service, and performance? The case used will be a Silverstone TJ10.

 

[Juddog]

From what I have seen the Coolit line isn't that good, and I have seen benchmarks showing that a high end air cooler will outperform them. I haven't seen benchmarks yet on the Corsair H70 though, so the jury is still out on that one.

 

[finbarqs]

funny garetjax, I have a coolit ECO A.L.C. inside a TJ10B-W. I love how it looks. I'm currently on 4.0GHz on a i7-930

my config is as follows:

BCLK: 191
MULT: 21
MEM: 1520MHz (I'm using 3x4GB G.Skill Ripjaw 1333)

Vcore: 1.367
VTT: +250mV (I'm on EVGA X58 SLI LE)
QPI: 1.2
VDIMM: 1.65V

RAM is at 8-8-8-24 1T

PNY GTX 480
SB X-Fi Titanium PCIe Fatality Ed.

Ilde temps: 54C
100% Load temps: 93C

Wait for the Corsair H70

1.367V and loads at 93C? That's an epic fail to me... Granted my ambient temps are 80-90F, still, idle temps loading at 54C is pretty much a fail.

But it sure looks cool! (You have to have the pump on a 3 pin fan header, and the radiator at the 4 pin header, for variable fan speeds of the Radiator, and full power for the pump)

 

[Juddog]

funny garetjax, I have a coolit ECO A.L.C. inside a TJ10B-W. I love how it looks. I'm currently on 4.0GHz on a i7-930

my config is as follows:

BCLK: 191
MULT: 21
MEM: 1520MHz (I'm using 3x4GB G.Skill Ripjaw 1333)

Vcore: 1.367
VTT: +250mV (I'm on EVGA X58 SLI LE)
QPI: 1.2
VDIMM: 1.65V

RAM is at 8-8-8-24 1T

PNY GTX 480
SB X-Fi Titanium PCIe Fatality Ed.

Ilde temps: 54C
100% Load temps: 93C

Wait for the Corsair H70

1.367V and loads at 93C? That's an epic fail to me... Granted my ambient temps are 80-90F, still, idle temps loading at 54C is pretty much a fail.

But it sure looks cool! (You have to have the pump on a 3 pin fan header, and the radiator at the 4 pin header, for variable fan speeds of the Radiator, and full power for the pump)

54C idle and 93C load? Damn... that's insane! I like how your case looks though.

 

[finbarqs]

i basically wasted 80 bucks on the coolit... I can't return it anymore, so i'm just gonna RMA it, and then get the Corsair h70.

 

[Skott]

No sense asking opinions about the H70 when no one knows how it performs yet especially when asking how it performs against another product. Wait for it to release then ask.

 

[garetjax]

No sense asking opinions about the H70 when no one knows how it performs yet especially when asking how it performs against another product. Wait for it to release then ask.

You mean like this?

http://www.maximumpc.com/article/reviews/corsair_hydro_h70_liquid-cooling_system_review

Whatever d00d...

 

[ahenkel]

I'd like to see a comparison between the H70 and the Coolit 240.

 

[Petey!]

You mean like this?

http://www.maximumpc.com/article/reviews/corsair_hydro_h70_liquid-cooling_system_review

Whatever d00d...

That's an absolutely horrible review. I mean good in theory, but not mention of how it was mounted. Horrible software used.. how about some OCCT or even prime95, something that might actually put it under heavy,heavy use.

I'll wait til Anand/Toms/Hard do a review on it.

 

[aigomorla]

No sense asking opinions about the H70 when no one knows how it performs yet especially when asking how it performs against another product. Wait for it to release then ask.

well if my opinion counts at all when it comes to water..

The H70 is most definitely what i would call an UPGRADE over a H5O.

You cant really say that about coolit's products.
Infact i dont personally like coolit, i honestly think all there products are nothing but crap, from there freezone all the way up to the boreas.

They pulled even a stupidier stunt @ CES, when they inflated a custom kit, and compared it with there's saying it was better. That completely lost any PR face they had with people like us in water.

You can tell they dont listen to ANY of the audience, because those of us who are on water will give you a bad look when you mention ALU + Copper as wetted parts in the same loop.

That being said...

I personally flamed corsair because they made a piss poor choice in the old radiator they used on the H5O.

It seems like me and others who did flame them, made corsair re evaluate the product.

The H70 is better because:

1. The radiator is thicker. Its more designed for a quieter fan.
2. The Radiator's FPI is also smaller. Once again, optimized for a quitter fan.

So with a beef'd up radiator, this product will perform better then the old H5O. Without a doubt.

I want to see how they changed the direct drive unit. (Pump / Block).

Yellowbeard you lurking in this post?

 

[Juddog]

That's an absolutely horrible review. I mean good in theory, but not mention of how it was mounted. Horrible software used.. how about some OCCT or even prime95, something that might actually put it under heavy,heavy use.

I'll wait til Anand/Toms/Hard do a review on it.

[H]ard has a preliminary review up, but they are still working on a more extensive review.

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2010/08/05/corsair_h70_cpu_cooler_first_install

 

[Yellowbeard]

Yellowbeard you lurking in this post?

LOL....I found it today.

I got this information from the lab guy that generated the H70 test results. H70 and H50 tests were run back to back under the EXACT same testing conditions. MSRP is $109 US. Let's hope actual retail is less than that....right?

Inside an oven with a controlled ambient temp of 25C, we put all hardware inside an Obsidian 800D. The Asus Rampage III extreme and Core i7 were overclocked to 3.8GHz (20x190 MHz, 1.34Vcore) and the graphics card used was a GTX 295. The load was provided with Prime95 64-bit @ 100% on all cores. The test was designed to be a worst-case-scenario of heat. The test was then run at max for four hours while the temps were logged in Everest.

There was a single 120mm fan in the top panel of the 800D acting as the case’s sole exhaust.

All fans were run at 100%

.

Press Release: http://www.corsair.com/news/press_release.aspx?id=1593139

Product Page: http://www.corsair.com/products/cas...m_content=ProductLink&utm_campaign=H70_Launch

Reviewers have units now so watch for reviews very soon. Also, both units were "stock" meaning used as you would buy them from the store. Single fan on the H50, duals on the H70 as that is how a majority of customers would use either unit.

 

[Petey!]

Seems like a decent improvement considering the 800D is garbage for aircooling.

 

[Juddog]

LOL....I found it today.

I got this information from the lab guy that generated the H70 test results. H70 and H50 tests were run back to back under the EXACT same testing conditions. MSRP is $109 US. Let's hope actual retail is less than that....right?

.

Press Release: http://www.corsair.com/news/press_release.aspx?id=1593139

Product Page: http://www.corsair.com/products/cas...m_content=ProductLink&utm_campaign=H70_Launch

Reviewers have units now so watch for reviews very soon. Also, both units were "stock" meaning used as you would buy them from the store. Single fan on the H50, duals on the H70 as that is how a majority of customers would use either unit.

Hmmm I wish they were able to compare two fans on the H50 (added one) versus the two fans on the H70 (stock).

 

[DrMrLordX]

Hmmm I wish they were able to compare two fans on the H50 (added one) versus the two fans on the H70 (stock).

While I echo your sentiment, aigomorla is right: the superior rad on the H70 all but guarantees that it will do better, provided that you have sufficient airflow to take advantage of the beefier rad.

In other words, H70 w/2 fans is almost guaranteed to outperform the H50 w/2 fans. The H70 is also far more likely to require 2 fans (or at least one fan with really good static pressure numbers). It would take some seriously poor pump design to prevent the H70 from winning any dual-fan benchmark against the h50, and somehow I don't see Corsair making that mistake.

 

[alkemyst]

You mean like this?

http://www.maximumpc.com/article/reviews/corsair_hydro_h70_liquid-cooling_system_review

Whatever d00d...

d00d you realize that review was posted only 8/4/2010. I am sure many have not seen it yet. By this weekend when people with lives have time to search online, the news will be more popular.

 

[Juddog]

While I echo your sentiment, aigomorla is right: the superior rad on the H70 all but guarantees that it will do better, provided that you have sufficient airflow to take advantage of the beefier rad.

In other words, H70 w/2 fans is almost guaranteed to outperform the H50 w/2 fans. The H70 is also far more likely to require 2 fans (or at least one fan with really good static pressure numbers). It would take some seriously poor pump design to prevent the H70 from winning any dual-fan benchmark against the h50, and somehow I don't see Corsair making that mistake.

I agree with you that the H70 with 2 fans will outperform the H50 with 2 fans, I'm just curious by how much.

I know that's one of the tests that they are doing over at [H]ardOcp though, so I suppose a full review will be soon.

It definitely looks like a nice cooler though. I'm thinking about switching up my server case to a more quiet case and using an H70 on it. The case I'm thinking about using is an Antec P180, which has the top exhaust fan almost literally right above the 120mm exhaust fan on the back, so I could potentially use it on intake.

I really with that Corsair would release a dual 120mm version of the H70 though, meaning a 240mm x 120mm radiator. I like the design a lot and it looks very simple to setup.

 

[Synomenon]

So H50 w/ one fan vs. H70 w/ one fan. Does the H70 still win?

 

[RaistlinZ]

funny garetjax, I have a coolit ECO A.L.C. inside a TJ10B-W. I love how it looks. I'm currently on 4.0GHz on a i7-930

my config is as follows:

BCLK: 191
MULT: 21
MEM: 1520MHz (I'm using 3x4GB G.Skill Ripjaw 1333)

Vcore: 1.367
VTT: +250mV (I'm on EVGA X58 SLI LE)
QPI: 1.2
VDIMM: 1.65V

RAM is at 8-8-8-24 1T

PNY GTX 480
SB X-Fi Titanium PCIe Fatality Ed.

Ilde temps: 54C
100% Load temps: 93C

Wait for the Corsair H70

1.367V and loads at 93C? That's an epic fail to me... Granted my ambient temps are 80-90F, still, idle temps loading at 54C is pretty much a fail.

But it sure looks cool! (You have to have the pump on a 3 pin fan header, and the radiator at the 4 pin header, for variable fan speeds of the Radiator, and full power for the pump)

Jesus, man! No wonder your temps are hot. 80-90F ambient and 1.36v just for 4.00GHz and you're blaming the cooler? I run 4.0GHz just fine at 1.300v on air. Why are you using so much voltage?

 

[james1701]

Jesus, man! No wonder your temps are hot. 80-90F ambient and 1.36v just for 4.00GHz and you're blaming the cooler? I run 4.0GHz just fine at 1.300v on air. Why are you using so much voltage?

+1

 

[DrMrLordX]

So H50 w/ one fan vs. H70 w/ one fan. Does the H70 still win?

Nodoby knows yet, but given the h70's rad, my guess is that unless the fan used has some serious static pressure, not necessarily.

 

[Soccerman06]

Jesus, man! No wonder your temps are hot. 80-90F ambient and 1.36v just for 4.00GHz and you're blaming the cooler? I run 4.0GHz just fine at 1.300v on air. Why are you using so much voltage?

While I'm not quite sure why his temps are so high, I have a 920 C(something) at 3.8 ghz at 1.41v so dont automatically assume its the voltage that is making his temps bad. I run on air at 60c ish full load so I'm assuming he is just poorly seated.

 

[Yellowbeard]

So H50 w/ one fan vs. H70 w/ one fan. Does the H70 still win?

Have not tested it in single fan v single fan. I would expect the H70 to win simply due to the larger rad.

2 fans vs 2 fans, H70 wins in THIS REVIEW

 

[james1701]

How on earth can they get a 980X on 1.5 volts and P95 running, and only get 83C with a single fan.

My ambient temp is 70F, and 1.25 volts get I get 76C on P95 at 4ghz with 2 fans running.

 

[Yellowbeard]

How on earth can they get a 980X on 1.5 volts and P95 running, and only get 83C with a single fan.

My ambient temp is 70F, and 1.25 volts get I get 76C on P95 at 4ghz with 2 fans running.

You could ask the reviewer. The site has a forum link to discuss the review.