Corrupt Republican Attempting Election Fraud Not Yet Stopped Dead In His Tracks

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TEMPE, Ariz. — Benjamin Pearcy, a candidate for statewide office in Arizona, lists his campaign office as a Starbucks. The small business he refers to in his campaign statement is him strumming his guitar on the street. The internal debate he is having in advance of his coming televised debate is whether he ought to gel his hair into his trademark faux Mohawk.

Mr. Pearcy, 20, is running for a seat on the Arizona Corporation Commission, which oversees public utilities, railroad safety and securities regulation. Although Mr. Pearcy says he is taking his first run for public office seriously, the political establishment here views him as nothing more than a political dirty trick.

Mr. Pearcy and other drifters and homeless people were recruited onto the Green Party ballot by a Republican political operative who freely admits that their candidacies may siphon some support from the Democrats. Arizona’s Democratic Party has filed a formal complaint with local, state and federal prosecutors in an effort to have the candidates removed from the ballot, and the Green Party has urged its supporters to steer clear of the rogue candidates.

“These are people who are not serious and who were recruited as part of a cynical manipulation of the process,” said Paul Eckstein, a lawyer representing the Democrats. “They don’t know Green from red.”

But Steve May, the Republican operative who signed up some of the candidates along Mill Avenue, a bohemian commercial strip next to Arizona State University, insists that a real political movement has been stirred up that has nothing to do with subterfuge.

“Did I recruit candidates? Yes,” said Mr. May, who is himself a candidate for the State Legislature, on the Republican ticket. “Are they fake candidates? No way.”

To make his point, Mr. May went by Starbucks, the gathering spot of the Mill Rats, as the frequenters of Mill Avenue are known.

“Are you fake, Benjamin?” he yelled out to Mr. Pearcy, who cried out “No,” with an expletive attached.

“Are you fake, Thomas?” Mr. May shouted in the direction of Thomas Meadows, 27, a tarot card reader with less than a dollar to his name who is running for state treasurer. He similarly disagreed.

“Are you fake, Grandpa?” he said to Anthony Goshorn, 53, a candidate for the State Senate whose bushy white beard and paternal manner have earned him that nickname on the streets. “I’m real,” he replied.

Gathered around was a motley crew of people who were down on their luck, including a one-armed pregnant woman named Roxie whom Mr. May befriended sometime back and who introduced him to the rest.

The Democratic Party is fuming over Mr. May’s tactics and those of at least two other Republicans who helped recruit candidates to the Green Party, which does not have the resources to put candidates on ballots around the state and thus creates the opportunity for write-in contenders like the Mill Rats to easily win primaries and get their names on the ballot for November. Complaints about spurious candidates have cropped up often before, though never involving an entire roster of candidates drawn from a group of street people.

“It’s unbelievable. It’s not right. It’s deceitful,” said Jackie Thrasher, a former Democratic legislator in northwest Phoenix who lost re-election in 2008 after a Green Party candidate with possible links to the Republicans joined the race. “If these candidates were interested in the democratic process, they should connect with the party they are interested in. What’s happening here just doesn’t wash. It doesn’t pass the smell test.”

Arizona, where Democrats, Republicans and independents each represent about a third of the populace, is known for its political hardball. Challenging nominating petitions is common. Election-related lawsuits are filed with regularity. This is not the first election in which a party has accused another of putting forth candidates to hoodwink voters.

Besides the Mill Rat candidates, the Democrats smell a rat in other races, including one in which a roommate of a Republican legislator’s daughter ran as a Green Party candidate in a competitive contest for the State Senate. They cite a variety of state and federal election laws that the Republicans may have violated in putting forward “sham” candidates for the Green Party.

The view, though, is different along Mill Avenue, where the first-time candidates appear to have been emboldened by the exercise, as Mr. Pearcy’s street corner campaign speech last Thursday night attests.

Dressed up spiffily, he described himself as the illegitimate son of a stripper who had had run-ins with the law and a tough childhood but who had pulled his life together.

“I’ve been homeless,” he said, his eyes darting back and forth. “I got a place. Anyone can do it. We’re all good enough.”

There was nodding all around, more than when he went into his pitch to solve the budget deficit through the installation of solar panels. As Mr. Pearcy went on, Mr. May whispered “focus, focus, focus” into his ear to get him back on track and help prepare him for a debate in early October, which will be televised across the state.

Reading tarot cards has taught Mr. Meadows, who is known for his purple and green jester hat, to talk a good game. “This is not the land of the free,” he told the loungers on the sidewalk, pitching himself for treasurer. “It’s the land of what’s for sale.”

Grandpa, widely known in the area through the pedicab he drives for hire, is against higher taxes and for God in the classroom. The other night, he was supposed to debate his Democratic and Republican rivals in the race but after seeing only the Democrat on stage, he decided to watch from the back. “I got a bad vibe,” he said.

Mr. May, who served as a Republican legislator from 1998 to 2002, said, “Even if I wanted to control these guys, they’re uncontrollable.”
The ZOMG outrage game! It's fun! Let's see how all the right wingers who displayed such outrage in Corn's recent thread react to this.

C'mon now, personal responsibility guys, stand up and call out this sleazy Republican operative with the same level of vituperative rhetoric, please.
 

Infohawk

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Part of me likes these fake candidates. If people are too dumb to know who they're voting for maybe their vote doesn't deserve to count.

I especially like the idea of hundred of competing "tea-party" candidates being on a ballot.
 

IGBT

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so which one of you's obama voters still have a tingle down yer leg?? mabe yer legs are numb from all the foot work from looking for a job.
 

Infohawk

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so which one of you's obama voters still have a tingle down yer leg?? mabe yer legs are numb from all the foot work from looking for a job.

I don't get it, does the awful spelling mean you're parodying someone? If so, who are you parodying?
 

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In both cases (this rep & the dem with fake Tea Party candidates) they should be charged with election fraud.

But yes, I sometimes think we do need to require citizens to pass some basic civics test before they are allowed to vote.
 

Fear No Evil

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http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/07/us/politics/07candidates.html?hpw

The ZOMG outrage game! It's fun! Let's see how all the right wingers who displayed such outrage in Corn's recent thread react to this.

C'mon now, personal responsibility guys, stand up and call out this sleazy Republican operative with the same level of vituperative rhetoric, please.

Its going to be hilarious to watch your breakdown in November when the Democrats get slaughtered even with their usual vote fraud, racist intimidation, and usual criminal activities.
 

ProfJohn

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Someone should bitch slap this Steve May person and tell him that there is no room for this type of behavior within the Republican Party.

Sadly the parties actually have little control over people like him and can't do much themselves.
 

Lemon law

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Its going to be hilarious to watch your breakdown in November when the Democrats get slaughtered even with their usual vote fraud, racist intimidation, and usual criminal activities.
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Be careful what you wish for Fear No Evil. You may indeed get it.

Because a largely GOP and teabagger zany congress is an almost certain way to guarantee the total collapse of the American economy.

But there is a lot of free floating anxiety in America because the American economy is in the dumps and other economies are doing far better than our own.

A part of the reason lies in the fact that America is not per say running slower, but the rest of the world is running far faster than it used to.

But the main reason is and remains, the fact the the world has changed and we have not. In an adapt of die world, amateur incompetent politicians are not the answer. And united we stand, divided we fall.
 

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In both cases (this rep & the dem with fake Tea Party candidates) they should be charged with election fraud.

But yes, I sometimes think we do need to require citizens to pass some basic civics test before they are allowed to vote.

Unlike my thread detailing actual election fraud committed (2 candidates who are not eligible for election and one who did not even know he was a candidate, wheras the OP here details not a single whit of illegality), this is no more amusing than my thread of a similar issue. I guess the big difference between these scammer party ringleaders is that the bozo in this story is rather boastful of his bullshit wheras in my thread, that bozo and his candidates would rather not submit to any questions--probably because anything they say could be used against them in a court of law........

Fuckheads all though.
 

Fear No Evil

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Be careful what you wish for Fear No Evil. You may indeed get it.

Because a largely GOP and teabagger zany congress is an almost certain way to guarantee the total collapse of the American economy.

But there is a lot of free floating anxiety in America because the American economy is in the dumps and other economies are doing far better than our own.

A part of the reason lies in the fact that America is not per say running slower, but the rest of the world is running far faster than it used to.

But the main reason is and remains, the fact the the world has changed and we have not. In an adapt of die world, amateur incompetent politicians are not the answer. And united we stand, divided we fall.

So you admit Obama was a mistake then?
 

Red Dawn

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So you admit Obama was a mistake then?

For the Democrats maybe but not for the Republicans. If McCain and that whore Palin would have been elected the Republicans would have been fucked for generations as they would be taken all the blame as there isn't any way that those clowns would have done better than Obama. In essense Obama getting elected saved your parties ass. Maybe those that control the Republicans had great foresight and made McCain a sacrificial lamb by sadling him with that whore Palin to enusre he would lose knowing damn well if he had won their future would be screwed and also knowing that there was no way any Democrat would have a successful term witthe shit sandwhich they was inheriting from the previous Administration
 

Vette73

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Part of me likes these fake candidates. If people are too dumb to know who they're voting for maybe their vote doesn't deserve to count.

I especially like the idea of hundred of competing "tea-party" candidates being on a ballot.


This. Don;t vote for a party/group but vote for the best person.

If someone follows the rules and gets on the ballot legally then its fair game. If they do not follow the rules then so be it.
 

Fear No Evil

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For the Democrats maybe but not for the Republicans. If McCain and that whore Palin would have been elected the Republicans would have been fucked for generations as they would be taken all the blame as there isn't any way that those clowns would have done better than Obama. In essense Obama getting elected saved your parties ass. Maybe those that control the Republicans had great foresight and made McCain a sacrificial lamb by sadling him with that whore Palin to enusre he would lose knowing damn well if he had won their future would be screwed and also knowing that there was no way any Democrat would have a successful term witthe shit sandwhich they was inheriting from the previous Administration

For the Democrats maybe but not for the Republicans. If McCain and that whore Palin would have been elected the Republicans would have been fucked for generations as they would be taken all the blame as there isn't any way that those clowns would have done better than Obama. In essense Obama getting elected saved your parties ass. Maybe those that control the Republicans had great foresight and made McCain a sacrificial lamb by sadling him with that whore Palin to enusre he would lose knowing damn well if he had won their future would be screwed and also knowing that there was no way any Democrat would have a successful term witthe shit sandwhich they was inheriting from the previous Administration

Is it really necessary to refer to Palin as a whore? :rolleyes: Talk about hateful rhetoric. I'll refer to Obama as 'The Terrorist' for the rest of this post so we can be at the same infantile level.

At what point does The Terrorist become responsible for ANYTHING in this country? And how would McCain/Palin been worse? They would have spent even more? Unemployment would have been even higher? They would be suing even more states?
 

Fern

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I'd say it's unethical behavior because of his obvious intent. But I don't it's illegal, and doesn't seem to rise to level of fraud.

OTOH, mis-representing yourself does strike me as fraud. Likewise with attempting to register ineligible people as candidates.

Fern
 

DaveSimmons

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It might not be provable, but this sleazebag probably got the homeless people to register as candidates by giving them food, booze and/or cash.

The odds of it being fraudulent are very high.
 

Fern

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It might not be provable, but this sleazebag probably got the homeless people to register as candidates by giving them food, booze and/or cash.

The odds of it being fraudulent are very high.

If he paid them to run it's a criminal offense.

Fern