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Corrosion of Turbines in Tanks

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jai6638

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Hello. I am researching Jet Engines and apparently, when Jet Engines are used in Tanks which move in deserts , the sand enters the turbines and corrodes them. In order to prevent that, I was thinking that I could accelerate the sand particles entering the engine to ALPHA particle speed and then get it deflected by using Rutherfords Experiment (since thats what happens in the experiment - alpha particles hit gold foil and deflect) .

Another idea was to implement a closed system so there is no contamination from the sand. Although I would need to figure out how to introduce new oxygen into the turbine for combustion..

Any other ideas?

Thanks

P.S: I dont want to use filters as that would mean cleaning the filters sporadically.
 
There are tanks built that aren't meant for war? 😕

Anyway, great choice though. Computer forum for asking questions about engineering jet engines in tanks -but only the tanks meant for war. :thumbsup:
 
how about only using the tanks in clean rooms?

or maybe we just pass a law forbidding sand from coming within 500 ft of a tank, like get the tank a restraining order against the sand, that might work
 
Originally posted by: Nik
There are tanks built that aren't meant for war? 😕

Anyway, great choice though. Computer forum for asking questions about engineering jet engines in tanks -but only the tanks meant for war. :thumbsup:
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Pre-heat the sand so that it turns liquid before entering the engine...
 
Originally posted by: Mwilding
Originally posted by: Nik
There are tanks built that aren't meant for war? 😕

Anyway, great choice though. Computer forum for asking questions about engineering jet engines in tanks -but only the tanks meant for war. :thumbsup:
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Pre-heat the sand so that it turns liquid before entering the engine...
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Glass? You want tanks spitting out glass?
 
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: Mwilding
Originally posted by: Nik
There are tanks built that aren't meant for war? 😕

Anyway, great choice though. Computer forum for asking questions about engineering jet engines in tanks -but only the tanks meant for war. :thumbsup:
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Pre-heat the sand so that it turns liquid before entering the engine...
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Glass? You want tanks spitting out glass?
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Bwahaha. New gun!

BTW...the OP is making no sense.

You want to stop sand from getting into tanks?

HEPA FILTER.

The continuous replacement of those might outweigh replacing a turbine here or there.
 
Originally posted by: jai6638
In order to prevent that, I was thinking that I could accelerate the sand particles entering the engine to ALPHA particle speed and then get it deflected by using Rutherfords Experiment (since thats what happens in the experiment - alpha particles hit gold foil and deflect) .
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Holy crap. Just...holy crap.
 
Originally posted by: Heisenberg
Originally posted by: jai6638
In order to prevent that, I was thinking that I could accelerate the sand particles entering the engine to ALPHA particle speed and then get it deflected by using Rutherfords Experiment (since thats what happens in the experiment - alpha particles hit gold foil and deflect) .
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Holy crap. Just...holy crap.
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QFFT
 
tanks already have filters, it isn't like they never thought of this before

http://www.globalsecurity.org/org/news/2003/030323-sand01.htm

During the Gulf War, sandstorms forced crews of the Army's heavy M1 Abrams tank to frequently change air filters to keep sand out of their turbine engines.

But it doesn't always help to change filters frequently. In 2001, nearly half of the Challenger tanks deployed in a British training exercise in Oman ground to an early halt after sand clogged their air filters and shut down their engines. A report by Britain's National Audit Office attributed the problems to an unusually fine sand the British Army hadn't encountered before in tank operations, and the report recommended new seals, skirts, and other fixes to shield moving parts.
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Originally posted by: FoBoT
tanks already have filters, it isn't like they never thought of this before

http://www.globalsecurity.org/org/news/2003/030323-sand01.htm

During the Gulf War, sandstorms forced crews of the Army's heavy M1 Abrams tank to frequently change air filters to keep sand out of their turbine engines.

But it doesn't always help to change filters frequently. In 2001, nearly half of the Challenger tanks deployed in a British training exercise in Oman ground to an early halt after sand clogged their air filters and shut down their engines. A report by Britain's National Audit Office attributed the problems to an unusually fine sand the British Army hadn't encountered before in tank operations, and the report recommended new seals, skirts, and other fixes to shield moving parts.
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That's pretty sweet that the British Army wears skirts in combat.
 
Originally posted by: jai6638

I could accelerate the sand particles entering the engine to ALPHA particle speed and then get it deflected by using Rutherfords Experiment (since thats what happens in the experiment - alpha particles hit gold foil and deflect) .

P.S: I dont want to use filters as that would mean cleaning the filters sporadically.
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Can you explain this? 😕 Wouldn't that take a helluva lot of energy?
 
Originally posted by: everman
Originally posted by: jai6638

I could accelerate the sand particles entering the engine to ALPHA particle speed and then get it deflected by using Rutherfords Experiment (since thats what happens in the experiment - alpha particles hit gold foil and deflect) .

P.S: I dont want to use filters as that would mean cleaning the filters sporadically.
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Can you explain this? 😕 Wouldn't that take a helluva lot of energy?
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Umm...it doesn't even come close to making sense.

Don't worry about it.
 
Originally posted by: jai6638
In order to prevent that, I was thinking that I could accelerate the sand particles entering the engine to ALPHA particle speed and then get it deflected by using Rutherfords Experiment (since thats what happens in the experiment - alpha particles hit gold foil and deflect) .

Another idea was to implement a closed system so there is no contamination from the sand. Although I would need to figure out how to introduce new oxygen into the turbine for combustion..

Any other ideas?

Thanks

P.S: I dont want to use filters as that would mean cleaning the filters sporadically.
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Those are some really dumb suggestions. Accelerating sand up to alpha particle speed? Having a closed system where the engine can't get any fresh air?

And if it's due to sand, it's erosion, not corrosion.
 
Originally posted by: EULA
why not forget about the turbine, and use the power of the sun!
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Or the power of the moon!

Or maybe Nuptune!

Yes, the god neptune will power our tanks...

(or did you mean build fusion reactors into tanks? 😀)
 
Originally posted by: So
Originally posted by: EULA
why not forget about the turbine, and use the power of the sun!
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Or the power of the moon!

Or maybe Nuptune!

Yes, the god neptune will power our tanks...

(or did you mean build fusion reactors into tanks? 😀)
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Hamster power is obviously the only solution here.
 
Originally posted by: EULA
just imagine.... solar powered tanks! WEapons of the future!
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Yes...that's be great. Tanks with the top speed, and sturdy construction of a solar vehicle and the multimillion dollar pricetag of a tank. 😀
 
Originally posted by: BillGates
Originally posted by: FoBoT
tanks already have filters, it isn't like they never thought of this before

http://www.globalsecurity.org/org/news/2003/030323-sand01.htm

During the Gulf War, sandstorms forced crews of the Army's heavy M1 Abrams tank to frequently change air filters to keep sand out of their turbine engines.

But it doesn't always help to change filters frequently. In 2001, nearly half of the Challenger tanks deployed in a British training exercise in Oman ground to an early halt after sand clogged their air filters and shut down their engines. A report by Britain's National Audit Office attributed the problems to an unusually fine sand the British Army hadn't encountered before in tank operations, and the report recommended new seals, skirts, and other fixes to shield moving parts.
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That's pretty sweet that the British Army wears skirts in combat.
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that is just the scottish dudes
 
The answer is simple, install a flux capacitor, accelerate to 88 mph and travel to the future. While there, get the indestructible turbine blades installed. I'd also recommend the hover conversion and the Mr. Fusion power source.
 
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