"Corporatizing" the Internet just like the TV! How do we as consumers fight for better access? Why can't we upload!!

brxndxn

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I was trying to figure out why my upload for my Cox Communications cable internet connection was very slow (about 5-10k/sec) and I was reading their site for information. On their site, I came across this:

What Are the Current Cox High Speed Internet Residential Bandwidth Limitations?

The Cox High Speed Internet acceptable use policy allows each user a maximum of 2GB per day and/or 30GB of downloads per month. Uploads are limited to 1GB per day and/or 7.5GB per month. This is an extremely high limit - for example 2GB of content is equivalent to about 60,000 pictures, 2000 minutes of MP3 music or 3 to 4 full-length movies.

I have never been told this information, nor has this information been given to me. Cox has always told me that I get unlimited access. When I originally signed up, this policy did not exist. Also, it says we get 1500up/128down kbits/sec bandwidth - except that we are not guaranteed that. I do not get near that sometimes for download and I never even get 1/2 that for upload.

Also, the other access, DSL, has about the same policies unless I pay more than $100 a month for access. This is started to get very frustrating because when I need to upload, (not all that often) it takes hours. Can we, as consumers, do anything about the few media corporations limiting our contributions to the Internet?

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This got me thinking.. Should there be government regulations on Internet Providers like there are on telephone, cable, and others? Like, should there be a law that advertised upload and download bandwidth should be guaranteed? Should there be a new branch of the FCC created to regulate ISPs?

Also, is anyone else frightened by the fact that fewer and fewer large corporations are controlling more and more users' access to the Internet? I mean.. on Cox' website, there's instructions for turning off file-sharing in every P2P program. Shouldn't a user be able to make his contribution to the Internet (assuming it's not piracy or anything illegal)? What if ISPs turn into the networks on TV? Like, you have 5 big companies that control 95% of the Internet (in the US)...

I'm so frustrated. I think I should be able to pay $50 a month or so and get a damn decent connection. And I think my upload shouldn't be so damn small compared to my download.


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Also, does anyone know of any other people I can go to besides Bellsouth and Cox for high-speed internet access in Gainesville, FL?
 

Mucman

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You said the Cox told you it was unlimited... can you please show us where it says that?
 

brxndxn

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I used to have a pamphlet that advertised "unlimited high-speed Internet access"

I'll try to find it - or I'll try and get a new one.
 

Zebo

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Also, is anyone else frightened by the fact that fewer and fewer large corporations are controlling more and more users' access to the Internet?

YES. And if it continues, along with this homeland security garbage, and every site being shockwaved java'd .netted out, I'll kill my internet much like I did for my TV. Some here will be pleased I'm sure.

 

Mucman

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This is the only are where I could find "unlimited". I believe they mean unlimited meaning time restrictions. You can be online 24/7 for a month if you
wish, as long as you obey their bandwidth/data transfer policy.
 

brxndxn

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But my point is that I agreed to their service when it was unlimited and they had nothing about their - high speed internet - anywhere on their website and I was never notified of any changes in policy.



Argh.. I want to be able to set up a UT2k3 server temporarily for my friends... I want to be able to send my buddy an mp3 in a minute - not 20.
 

Cyberian

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Originally posted by: brxndxn
But my point is that I agreed to their service when it was unlimited and they had nothing about their - high speed internet - anywhere on their website and I was never notified of any changes in policy.
You still haven't shown us anything that references 'unlimited' internet access.
And do you really want more government control/regulation of your life?
 

her209

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Originally posted by: Linux23
unfortunately they can changes the rules, whenever the feel like it.

No they can't. That's what contracts are for.
 

pulse8

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Originally posted by: her209
Originally posted by: Linux23
unfortunately they can changes the rules, whenever the feel like it.

No they can't. That's what contracts are for.

And I'm sure somewhere in that contract it states that they can change it whenever they feel like it.
 

Lucky

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Originally posted by: pulse8
Originally posted by: her209
Originally posted by: Linux23
unfortunately they can changes the rules, whenever the feel like it.

No they can't. That's what contracts are for.

And I'm sure somewhere in that contract it states that they can change it whenever they feel like it.

yep.

 

Amused

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Bandwidth is expensive. Due to the copyrighted material traders running FTP servers and other types of wide spread file sharing, broadband companies have been forced to do this.

It used to get so damn bad here when the college kids came back in town, that Insight actually started monitoring people's bandwidth use and shut down obvious servers. When I say bad, I mean bad. My ping would go from a normal 50ms to 400-800ms spikes and my speed would drop from above 3mb to below 1mb.

They have two choices, allow the servers to abuse the system and make everyone pay, or cap bandwidth usage.

If you want to run a server, pay for it. Don't try to run a server on a private connection and make everyone else foot the bill for your bandwidth abuse.

In short, don't blame the companies for covering their asses. Blame the bandwidth abusers who break the contract and run servers.
 

ThisIsMatt

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Just to make sure you're clear, 1500kilobits down, 128kilobits up is equal to 187kilobytes down, 16kilobytes up.