Corporations should be grateful to the workers.

[DCal430]

Today it seems like the attitude is is that the people should be grateful to corporations for providing them with jobs. When in reality it is the company who should be grateful to the people for allowing them exist in return for jobs with good wages.

Remember these companies exist and make money because we allow them to, and we have a right to stop allowing them to when they abuse the system. When the good wages stop it is time to shut down the company.

Sad how the right props up companies like walmart and claim they are good for providing job, when these companies degrades all of society and should be shut down. It really seems like tea party members have been brainwashed to be corporate slaves.

 

[DucatiMonster696]

Today it seems like the attitude is is that the people should be grateful to corporations for providing them with jobs. When in reality it is the company who should be grateful to the people for allowing them exist in return for jobs with good wages.

Remember these companies exist and make money because we allow them to, and we have a right to stop allowing them to when they abuse the system. When the good wages stop it is time to shut down the company.

Sad how the right props up companies like walmart and claim they are good for providing job, when these companies degrades all of society and should be shut down. It really seems like tea party members have been brainwashed to be corporate slaves.

A person has the the right to start a business and generate wealth in this nation because we value the rights of the individual more so then some other"Utopian worker paradises" states.


Cuba and Venezuela is that way ----->

 

[_GTech]

A person has the the right to start a business and generate wealth in this nation because we value the rights of the individual more so then some other"Utopian worker paradises" states.

Cuba and Venezuela is that way ----->

Lol! So much ownage...

 

[wuliheron]

At one time the middle class in the US kept corporations on a tight leash. They knew better then to let the eight hundred pound gorilla wander wherever he chose, but those days are long gone. Family farms, mom and pop stores, and all the old symbols of an independent middle class are all but gone. People have sold their souls to the company store and the result is unimaginable debt in the name of freedom.

 

[DCal430]

A person has the the right to start a business and generate wealth in this nation because we value the rights of the individual more so then some other"Utopian worker paradises" states.


Cuba and Venezuela is that way ----->

A society has a right to shut down a business if it is deemed in society best interest, also the people should be able to seize a business if it in society best interest to do so.

 

[matt0611]

A society has a right to shut down a business if it is deemed in society best interest, also the people should be able to seize a business if it in society best interest to do so.

Negative. Cuba and Venezuela is that way ----->

 

[PieIsAwesome]

A society has a right to shut down a business if it is deemed in society best interest, also the people should be able to seize a business if it in society best interest to do so.

Society should have the right to seize you and your property and redistribute it if it is deemed to be in society's best interests, comrade.

 

[Skitzer]

A society has a right to shut down a business if it is deemed in society best interest, also the people should be able to seize a business if it in society best interest to do so.

You're kidding right?

 

[Ronstang]

At one time the middle class in the US kept corporations on a tight leash. They knew better then to let the eight hundred pound gorilla wander wherever he chose, but those days are long gone. Family farms, mom and pop stores, and all the old symbols of an independent middle class are all but gone. People have sold their souls to the company store and the result is unimaginable debt in the name of freedom.

No, people stopped valuing quality and started shopping based on the lowest price only so they could fill up their crappy houses built by low skilled illegal immigrants with as much junk as possible. Nobody bothers to notice that the $5 Chinese piece of crap they bought is not only of low quality but only lasts 6 months before it breaks. They could have bought a higher quality one for $10 that would have lasted them a lifetime or until obsolescence but price is more important. One day there were no quality options available because the companies that made them had to stop and there ended these decent paying middle class jobs.

And BTW, the OP is a completely clueless fucking idiot.

 

[MotF Bane]

A society has a right to shut down a business if it is deemed in society best interest, also the people should be able to seize a business if it in society best interest to do so.

*taps sarcasm meter*

 

[wuliheron]

No, people stopped valuing quality and started shopping based on the lowest price only so they could fill up their crappy houses built by low skilled illegal immigrants with as much junk as possible. Nobody bothers to notice that the $5 Chinese piece of crap they bought is not only of low quality but only lasts 6 months before it breaks. They could have bought a higher quality one for $10 that would have lasted them a lifetime or until obsolescence but price is more important. One day there were no quality options available because the companies that made them had to stop and there ended these decent paying middle class jobs.

And BTW, the OP is a completely clueless fucking idiot.

Either way, its the clueless people that did this to themselves.

 

[RightIsWrong]

A person has the the right to start a business and generate wealth in this nation because we value the rights of the individual more so then some other"Utopian worker paradises" states.


Cuba and Venezuela is that way ----->

A society is forced to prop up corporations in the form of bailouts that are untracked and in exorbitant amounts to corporate officials that have run themselves into the ground but have bought off enough politicians that they are deemed "too big to fail" because we value the "rights" of the corporation more than the rights of the individual like they do in other "Utopian free market" states.

Private profits and public debt, just the way that the corporate leaders want it to be.

Adam Smith flipping over in his grave is that way ----->

 

[Steeplerot]

Negative. Cuba and Venezuela is that way ----->

So many pathetic tired strawmen, so little actual insight to a very important issue.

Is this all you guys have? Silly bumper sticker cliches from the cold war era?

You guys make great serfs. Go serve your masters.

 

[matt0611]

So many pathetic tired strawmen, so little actual insight to a very important issue.

Is this all you guys have? Silly bumper sticker cliches from the cold war era?

You guys make great serfs. Go serve your masters.

Insight?
You think the idea that the state should start seizing private property because its in the "interest of the people" warrants a serious response?

The shitty ideas he's spouting are already being implemented, we're only suggesting places he might like to go to see how they're working out. The people there are the real serfs.

 

[Darwin333]

Today it seems like the attitude is is that the people should be grateful to corporations for providing them with jobs. When in reality it is the company who should be grateful to the people for allowing them exist in return for jobs with good wages.

Remember these companies exist and make money because we allow them to, and we have a right to stop allowing them to when they abuse the system. When the good wages stop it is time to shut down the company.

Sad how the right props up companies like walmart and claim they are good for providing job, when these companies degrades all of society and should be shut down. It really seems like tea party members have been brainwashed to be corporate slaves.

Last I checked a person in the Untied States is not forced to work at Wallyworld. They are free to not work there if they chose.

 

[DucatiMonster696]

A society is forced to prop up corporations in the form of bailouts that are untracked and in exorbitant amounts to corporate officials that have run themselves into the ground but have bought off enough politicians that they are deemed "too big to fail" because we value the "rights" of the corporation more than the rights of the individual like they do in other "Utopian free market" states.

Private profits and public debt, just the way that the corporate leaders want it to be.

Adam Smith flipping over in his grave is that way ----->

How about you stop electing government officials that enact these bailouts?

In other words there is no "force" (as in unjust) being applied other then appealing to the herd mentality of some people on both sides.

Edit: Thus you get the government you vote for in the end. Which is completely different then violating the rights of an individual to own property and run a business by having it seized by the government in the name of the "People". Of which this notion is similar in appeal to the Catholic church in the medieval era ceasing land, property, etc in the name of the "Church" or "God". Both argument are in essence appeals to a higher authority to justify a wrong. Not to mention that such seizures go against the fundamental principles of the US and its Constitution.

 

[DCal430]

Insight?
You think the idea that the state should start seizing private property because its in the "interest of the people" warrants a serious response?

The shitty ideas he's spouting are already being implemented, we're only suggesting places he might like to go to see how they're working out. The people there are the real serfs.

I didn't say they should start talk people homes way. I said if a business abuses its right to exist than the people have a right to shut it down and seize it. When a company pays its worker slave wages than it has abused its right to exist and should be seized. Private ownership of a company is fine, but it needs to be accompanied by strong government oversight, minimums in wages, and limits on profit margins.

 

[DCal430]

Last I checked a person in the Untied States is not forced to work at Wallyworld. They are free to not work there if they chose.

It is hard for legitimate companies to compete against walmart, so they often end up shutting down. The result is fewer decent paying jobs were you have a walmart. These people are forced to work at walmart because walmart got rid of the higher paying competition.

 

[Darwin333]

A society has a right to shut down a business if it is deemed in society best interest, also the people should be able to seize a business if it in society best interest to do so.

What you really mean is society should have the right to seize property if they deem it is in their best interests to do so. The reason you didn't say it like that is because that would mean that society could take your shit if they felt like it. You are perfectly willing to take from others but I bet you get a bit squirmy when it comes to others taking from you.

 

[glenn1]

Remember these companies exist and make money because we allow them to, and we have a right to stop allowing them to when they abuse the system. When the good wages stop it is time to shut down the company.

Do you feel the same way when the company involved that is no longer paying good wages (or has gone bankrupt trying to pay them) is named General Motors or Chrysler?

BTW, I'm completely at a loss to understand why many folks out there think that somehow Americans are owed positions at high pay doing work that can be done by an illiterate peasant in a 3rd world country. It's as if they feel their pay should not be linked against the value their labor generates in any way.

 

[DCal430]

No one works at place like walmart because they want to, it is because they have no other choice. They only exception are the top bosses who make their living off the back of the workers.

 

[DCal430]

FYI stop thinking a business is a person, it isn't. It simple exist because we allow it to. It has no rights like a person has.

 

[glenn1]

It is hard for legitimate companies to compete against walmart, so they often end up shutting down. The result is fewer decent paying jobs were you have a walmart. These people are forced to work at walmart because walmart got rid of the higher paying competition.

So unemployment in cities like Detroit where there are no Wal-Marts should be pretty low, right?

 

[DucatiMonster696]

No one works at place like walmart because they want to, it is because they have no other choice.

Yet you fail to realize the individual decisions made by those who "have to work there" that put them in such a plight.

They only exception are the top bosses who make their living off the back of the workers.

Appeals to populist arguments for 500 Alex!

 

[DCal430]

So unemployment in cities like Detroit where there are no Wal-Marts should be pretty low, right?

Walmart isn't the only anti worker company.