Coroner: Removing man's organs was homicide

[shiner]

Originally posted by: pyonir

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Originally posted by: pyonir
I am still an organ donor...and always will be.

Sticking your penis in every girl that bends over to tie her shoe does NOT count as being an organ donor.

That's not what i meant. I mean...I DO do that, but i'm also an organ donor in the traditional sense.

I usually scream "ORGAN DONATION COMPLETE!" when this turn around to see wtf just happened. 😀

It's over so fast they aren't quite sure what happened are they? 😉

 

[pyonir]

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Originally posted by: pyonir

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Originally posted by: pyonir
I am still an organ donor...and always will be.

Sticking your penis in every girl that bends over to tie her shoe does NOT count as being an organ donor.

That's not what i meant. I mean...I DO do that, but i'm also an organ donor in the traditional sense.

I usually scream "ORGAN DONATION COMPLETE!" when this turn around to see wtf just happened. 😀

It's over so fast they aren't quite sure what happened are they? 😉

Some of them don't even know it happened. 🙁

 

[shiner]

Originally posted by: pyonir

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Originally posted by: pyonir

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Originally posted by: pyonir
I am still an organ donor...and always will be.

Sticking your penis in every girl that bends over to tie her shoe does NOT count as being an organ donor.

That's not what i meant. I mean...I DO do that, but i'm also an organ donor in the traditional sense.

I usually scream "ORGAN DONATION COMPLETE!" when this turn around to see wtf just happened. 😀

It's over so fast they aren't quite sure what happened are they? 😉

Some of them don't even know it happened. 🙁

Hmmmmm....where is that thread you were wanting to "practice genetics" at?? Might want to post that there as well.

 

[dullard]

Originally posted by: Vic
What you seem to not understand is that organ harvesting can ONLY take place while the heart is still beating and the blood is still flowing. In order to determine death in these cases, where the heart is still beating (albeit often still beating under mechanical or chemical stimulus), it must be absolutely established that brain death has occurred.

Not related to what I said. Death or brain death, either way my comments are unchanged. I said it appears that the coroner is angry that he didn't get the job and that two separate hospitals did it instead.

The difficulty here is that organ transplants are an extremely profitable and in-demand business for doctors and hospitals, and when a young otherwise-healthy-except-for-severe-head-trauma individual is brought in at the point of death, it has been found that the hospitals are often more eager to harvest organs than to save the life.

Talking out my ass? Not only have several major national publications exposed this in recent years, but I'm sure the major internet search engines, like Google, still work.

I believe you 100% that it is profitable. But that is irrelavant to the topic at hand. Most hospitals are in the business to make money. Are we going to argue that they shouldn't operate at all for any reason since it is profitable? You do stretch the truth too much in one respect (bolded above). There are two people dead/dying in every transplant case. The hospital would rather see the person getting the transplant die than to do an improper transplant. Why? An improper transplant costs a hospital millions in litigations (for an example do a google search for the ~7 diseases that they test for before transplanting). Therefore it is more profitable to NOT take the organs than to transplant them in many cases. Thus your bolded part stretches the truth that they will always transplant an organ regardless of anything even things as important as life. Note: I realize you weren't talking about the big picture here, but I just wanted to say that your quote can be misinterpreted.

In the case here, it seems that the coroner believes that, in the hospitals rush to harvest, the appropriate tests to determines brain death were not performed.

Two hospitals independantly did tests for brain death. Two hospitals independantly determined he was brain dead. The articles make it sound like the coroner is just angry he didn't get the money to do the tests his way.