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Am I the only one that is not excited about this? I'm even in a very 'technical' field, and I just feel like 'things' have gotten to where they're taking away from our lives rather than adding to it.
 
IndyColtsFan said:
I only watched the first half of the video, but I can say with a pretty high level of confidence that just about everything I saw is achievable now. Cost is a different matter but like everything else, I imagine that it would drop relatively rapidly once introduced and widespread adoption begins.



Microsoft is in big trouble IMO. Windows 8 being available for ARM is a step in the right direction but like previous MS efforts in the mobile and tablet market, I'm going to guess that it won't be adequate or see widespread adoption. Look at the embarrassing pummeling they've been taking in the smartphone market for years.
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They've been taking that beating because truly never had a focused direction in that market. And if Microsoft's mobile arm fails entirely, well, so what? In the market, it's just another competitor, and for Microsoft themselves, it's only small product lineup, and dropping that market would barely hurt them.

Windows Mobile used to basically be all about trying to make a mobile experience that felt like you were using Windows. And so that in of itself kind of took off, with it's own class of mobile devices (UPMCs anyone?) as users looked for the Windows experience on the go.
And then we all realized what a terrible idea that really is. Windows is great... on a computer. Handheld computer? Make it perform differently, thanks. 🙂

Windows Mobile 6 was fun to tinker with, but overall was ugh. That and it wasn't developed for capacitive touch, though some tweaks with 6.5 tried to correct that.
Windows Phone 7 is a nice and different approach, a whole new direction. Will it ultimately get them the marketshare they are fighting for? Not sure.
 
Okay, a couple things:

1) Am I the only one who is getting sick and tired of commercials using fashion houses as a selling point for their product. How many fucking fashion houses are there in America? Jesus Chriminy, enough already.

2) This post for the video just makes me sick:
instead of spending so much money on this, why not spend money and time to aid people in dire situations and find alternative energy sources


superzvenomz 1 day ago
 
destrekor said:
They've been taking that beating because truly never had a focused direction in that market. And if Microsoft's mobile arm fails entirely, well, so what? In the market, it's just another competitor, and for Microsoft themselves, it's only small product lineup, and dropping that market would barely hurt them.
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Mobile is becoming bigger and bigger and that spells a cloudy future for MS. Many people think (and I am beginning to agree) that the future of client computing will be tablets and smartphones. MS must make serious inroads or could eventually be on the outside looking in. I don't think it will sink the company, but they could lose significant revenue.

Windows Mobile used to basically be all about trying to make a mobile experience that felt like you were using Windows. And so that in of itself kind of took off, with it's own class of mobile devices (UPMCs anyone?) as users looked for the Windows experience on the go.
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When did that take off? UMPCs are dead, and netbooks are about to be. What is Microsoft's market share in smartphones? IIRC, they trailed Android, Apple, RIM, and I believe even Nokia.

And then we all realized what a terrible idea that really is. Windows is great... on a computer. Handheld computer? Make it perform differently, thanks. 🙂

Windows Mobile 6 was fun to tinker with, but overall was ugh. That and it wasn't developed for capacitive touch, though some tweaks with 6.5 tried to correct that.
Windows Phone 7 is a nice and different approach, a whole new direction. Will it ultimately get them the marketshare they are fighting for? Not sure.
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Too little, too late I'm afraid.
 
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That bus stop would have spraypaint and etchant poured all over it.

Oh wait, that glass somehow acts as a video camera too, so they'd be able to catch whoever did it.
 
i liked the video, thanks OP.

among all the neat glass fixtures, did anyone notice all the interdevice and network communication going on? moving files between mobile and rigid devices, quick/fast updates between the displays in the mall and the personal devices? being able to have a video conversation on your phone and then moving it on the fly to a fixed device would be a neat feature, but onto the countertop would require camera technology that would be interspersed throughout the display (different from how we implement it in cell phones now). it probably would not ever be cost effective to do this, and if they could, it would be a security nightmare. nonetheless, i always appreciate visionary type of videos like these because it can get your own creative juices flowing.

edit: very suggestive of the exponential power demands in the future, imo
 
gophins72 said:
i liked the video, thanks OP.

among all the neat glass fixtures, did anyone notice all the interdevice and network communication going on? moving files between mobile and rigid devices, quick/fast updates between the displays in the mall and the personal devices? being able to have a video conversation on your phone and then moving it on the fly to a fixed device would be a neat feature, but onto the countertop would require camera technology that would be interspersed throughout the display (different from how we implement it in cell phones now). it probably would not ever be cost effective to do this, and if they could, it would be a security nightmare. nonetheless, i always appreciate visionary type of videos like these because it can get your own creative juices flowing.

edit: very suggestive of the exponential power demands in the future, imo
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How much stuff that we have now was once "not ever cost effective"? 😉
"You want 700 million transistors put on a single chip so that you can play games???? As if that'll ever happen!" 🙂

Security though....yeah. Don't forget to turn off your table once you're done with it.

Something else that was in there that would seem to be rather difficult: A completely transparent portable phone. No sign of a circuitboard, components, or a battery. Maybe it's powered by Cornitrons.
 
There is a huge undertaking underway for Smart Power in the home and business...I am part of some of those deployments going on now between Cisco and various utlitities. Load management, power cycling, etc are all part of it. Everything ties together and you can get reports on what device uses what power...the grid is going into place now nationwide.

Once that network is in place, the rest isn't so hard.

Security is a key aspect of this endevour. It's all wireless-based.
 
How much stuff that we have now was once "not ever cost effective"?
"You want 700 million transistors put on a single chip so that you can play games???? As if that'll ever happen!"
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shrug, i would be happy if they implemented it. i'm just pointing out engineering/technical opportunities that you or some other entrepreneur can take advantage of 😉

in regards to security, i mean that each of these things could wreak havoc if a virus could easily pass from a hacked bus stop machine to your personal device to your house to your car, all seamlessly -- another opportunity for a company to address.

to be honest, i think our field needs to explore more and shoot ourselves down less, even if it seems wasteful or cost inefficient now. unfortunately, our economy is not conducive to that environment.
 
gophins72 said:
shrug, i would be happy if they implemented it. i'm just pointing out engineering/technical opportunities that you or some other entrepreneur can take advantage of 😉

in regards to security, i mean that each of these things could wreak havoc if a virus could easily pass from a hacked bus stop machine to your personal device to your house to your car, all seamlessly -- another opportunity for a company to address.

to be honest, i think our field needs to explore more and shoot ourselves down less, even if it seems wasteful or cost inefficient now. unfortunately, our economy is not conducive to that environment.
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well most of this will be closed platforms so a virus wouldn't run...more possible would be DoS type of attacks.
 
alkemyst said:
well most of this will be closed platforms so a virus wouldn't run...more possible would be DoS type of attacks.
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a few years back, there were "fake atm" machines in malls. people would walk up and put their cards in, type their pin numbers and the machine would say "sorry out of money." the customer would walk away, meanwhile someone was creating a new atm card based on the magnetic data and the newly acquired pin and then scamming tons of cash.

it would be even easier to have an auto-broadcasting machine from a mall parking lot that fakes a "yes, the customer requested something about a dress in a size 6, please accept and run this app" now, i'm making assumptions on how the platform is implemented, but the point i'm making is, that it must be implemented to take this type of stuff in mind. since none of this stuff exists yet, it is opportunity.
 
There are still fake atm machines and card skiming. This is a bit different since there is no physical device (card) needed.

I see what you are saying about apps and the like, but it's going to be based on closed architecture and certificate-based more than likely. Without an authorized certificate the devices will not acknowledge the app/transaction.
 
I wish that all flat panel displays (portable and desktop) would be made of Gorilla Glass. That shit is unbelievably tough, I've done some things to my Zune HD that would completely obliterate any other screen while only getting hairline scratches on it.

For example: One time I was walking in a trail on the outskirts of my town and I dropped it from chest level. It landed face down on the gravel and when I picked it up it only had very minor scratches that I didn't notice at first.
 
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This is just an advert for the glass itself. They don't make the hardware or software, so they get to invent crazy things. Hooray marketing!
 
sdifox said:
Let me explain this. There is no way in hell they will put touchscreen on top of heating element. That is called class action lawsuit waiting to happen.

Fridge, sure. Stove top? Are you nuts?
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It's probably an induction stovetop. The surface does not get hot, and the lighting up of the "element" is just so you can see the setting.
 
LTC8K6 said:
It's probably an induction stovetop. The surface does not get hot, and the lighting up of the "element" is just so you can see the setting.
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Are you saying that a fucking 1200-3600W coil produces no heat on its own?
 
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Joseph F said:
I wish that all flat panel displays (portable and desktop) would be made of Gorilla Glass. T
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we are working on it, actually we are trying to get company's that sell products to do it. IIRC samsung announced that they were gonna do an edge to edge TV with GG, someone also has a laptop doing it
 
Joseph F said:
Are you saying that a fucking 1200-3600W coil produces no heat on its own?
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No, he didn't say that. He said "induction" - look it up. Coil is conduction.


back on topic - if you only knew the applications that are coming out of glass science these days... absolutely overwhelming. Gorilla glass is 50 or so year old technology. In the past couple of years, I've been taking a bunch of my kids over to Alfred University where they do a lot of glass research. Seeing some of the cutting edge things that are beginning to happen is incredible.
 
Joseph F said:
Are you saying that a fucking 1200-3600W coil produces no heat on its own?
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An induction cooktop heats the pot or pan only. The "lighting up" would be just an effect to give you a visual indication of the burner setting you otherwise would not have. There's nothing to see with an induction stove.


melting_chocolate.jpg


Note the chocolate only melting in the pot, not on the stovetop.
 
LTC8K6 said:
An induction cooktop heats the pot or pan only. The "lighting up" would be just an effect to give you a visual indication of the burner setting you otherwise would not have. There's nothing to see with an induction stove.


melting_chocolate.jpg


Note the chocolate only melting in the pot, not on the stovetop.
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waits for the scientifically challenged to call shens on that pic.
 
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