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thilanliyan

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Originally posted by: Idontcare
Bummer for that dude, blacklisted now. You can't be stupid like this with your NDA's.
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Actually I think that guy is pretty well known amongst the OCing community and has given info on lots of stuff like this before...I don't think Intel will care too much.
 
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Idontcare

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Originally posted by: thilan29
Originally posted by: Idontcare
Bummer for that dude, blacklisted now. You can't be stupid like this with your NDA's.
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Actually I think that guy is pretty well known amongst the OCing community and has given info on lots of stuff like this before...I don't think Intel will care too much.
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I know who coolaler is and I know who Francois is.

Are you saying Francois doesn't know what he is talking about?
 
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thilanliyan

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Originally posted by: Idontcare
Originally posted by: thilan29
Originally posted by: Idontcare
Bummer for that dude, blacklisted now. You can't be stupid like this with your NDA's.
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Actually I think that guy is pretty well known amongst the OCing community and has given info on lots of stuff like this before...I don't think Intel will care too much.
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I know who coolaler is and I know who Francois is.

Are you saying Francois doesn't know what he is talking about?
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Sorry I failed to pick up on that link you posted. I'm surprised that was their reaction considering he gets them some nice PR for their product...and as I said I'm pretty sure I've seen him "preview" products before and well he seems to keep getting them prior to release so I assumed they didn't mind.

EDIT: Here's something else from that thread you posted by StarGazer in response to what DrWho? posted:

"Coolaler already showed early Conroe and Penryn benches, it's well known that he always get those "press kits" and does stuff with them before the NDA lift date. How comes that you say this? It's perfectly logical and understandable, but why now and not before?"

That's exactly what I was thinking.

Originally posted by: Sureshot324
Any benchmarks? I don't feel like going through the entire thread to look for them.
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Try page 7,8, and 9...only mem and cache benchmarks though.
 
PlasmaBomb

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I remember Coolaler's Conroe and Penryn benches, I thought that Coolaler had links, I didn't think that he got Press kits (and the associated NDAs). With the time to launch only a matter of weeks, I would have thought that any publicity would have been good to build anticipation and sales.

Edit: It doesn't look like there is much room for overclocking on the stock HSF. Coolaler was hitting 64 C without the mobo mounted in a case in some of the screens.
 
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Originally posted by: Idontcare
You can't be stupid like this with your NDA's.
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Nope, which is why I won't spill i7 beans either. ;)

Originally posted by: PlasmaBomb
Edit: It doesn't look like there is much room for overclocking on the stock HSF.
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That may or may not be the HSF which comes with the processor.
 
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Originally posted by: thilan29
EDIT: Here's something else from that thread you posted by StarGazer in response to what DrWho? posted:

"Coolaler already showed early Conroe and Penryn benches, it's well known that he always get those "press kits" and does stuff with them before the NDA lift date. How comes that you say this? It's perfectly logical and understandable, but why now and not before?"

That's exactly what I was thinking.
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I'm not disagreeing with your thinking, nor am I disagreeing with Coolaler's reasoning for releasing the information in seeming violation of his NDA.

I'm just saying based on Francois's response it sounds like Coolaler knew in advance that doing it this time would not be acceptable. If Francois has not chimed in then I would have assumed it was yet another planned leak by Intel marketing (viral marketing by another name) as they do this routinely.

But it would appear, barring retraction of Francois's statement, that Coolaler stepped over a pre-defined line this time. And for that I say "bummer dude" because I have always enjoyed his previews (and world records) so its sad (to me) to see this blemish placed on his career to date.

Why is it a bummer for the rest of us? Because it means he likely won't get a Westmere press kit next summer, which means us enthousiasts will be all the more in the dark until official NDA lifts.
 
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he's only posting this much info because NDA lifting is imminent
 
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Originally posted by: dmens
he's only posting this much info because NDA lifting is imminent
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So its poor Francois who is ought of the loop then? That seems a little surprising, but I guess anything is possible.
 
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Originally posted by: WaitingForNehalem
Originally posted by: dmens
he's only posting this much info because NDA lifting is imminent
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So it's not November 13?
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My guess is the Intel is letting a few reviewers leak some info/benchmarks as long as they don't show any games benchmarks, which are expected to be unimpressive.
 
VirtualLarry

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Originally posted by: Idontcare
But it would appear, barring retraction of Francois's statement, that Coolaler stepped over a pre-defined line this time. And for that I say "bummer dude" because I have always enjoyed his previews (and world records) so its sad (to me) to see this blemish placed on his career to date.
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Who was it that did the so-called world record overclocking at the last Intel IDF? Was it Coolaler or Fugger or someone else?
 
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Originally posted by: VirtualLarry
Who was it that did the so-called world record overclocking at the last Intel IDF? Was it Coolaler or Fugger or someone else?
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I'm thinking it was Fugger, but it was definitely either Fugger or Coolaler.

Originally posted by: clarkey01
i'd love to know how much behind my q6600 @ 3 Ghz is
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For gaming, a Yorkfield quad is only ~10% slower, at the same clockspeed. Since a Q6600 is ~5% slower clock-for-clock with gaming than the current Yorkfields, it stands to reason that it would be ~15% slower at the same speed. Now, if you were talking about other types of uses, especially ones that can take advantage of 8 threads, there'dbe no contest.
 
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Originally posted by: VirtualLarry
Originally posted by: Idontcare
But it would appear, barring retraction of Francois's statement, that Coolaler stepped over a pre-defined line this time. And for that I say "bummer dude" because I have always enjoyed his previews (and world records) so its sad (to me) to see this blemish placed on his career to date.
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Who was it that did the so-called world record overclocking at the last Intel IDF? Was it Coolaler or Fugger or someone else?
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Fugger
 
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Coolaler probably would have been safe if he didn't post all those insanely high-res pics of any and everything.
 
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The CPU is pretty nifty I'm sure, but going through those pics in that link, I was way more excited to see that cool little water cooling/dual 9800GTX+ kit. Now that looked pretty cool! :p
 
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this is to the extent of my NDA as of this moment:

http://i125.photobucket.com/al...aigomorla/nehaneha.jpg

you guys can see the date i had the chip.

That is about all im allowed to post at the moment. :T

Next post from me i think will be straight build, and then real performance numbers. :D
But that will take some time.

i talked to an intel engineer about this, and he's not happy. :T
but i also did hear JCornel holds special NDA's. Im not very sure about this tho.

I know i got my neha b4 fugger, if anyone is wondering.

And if anything JCornel was ahead of all of us to neha. :T

 
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Originally posted by: aigomorla
this is to the extent of my NDA as of this moment:

http://i125.photobucket.com/al...aigomorla/nehaneha.jpg

you guys can see the date i had the chip.

That is about all im allowed to post at the moment. :T

Next post from me i think will be straight build, and then real performance numbers. :D
But that will take some time.

i talked to an intel engineer about this, and he's not happy. :T
but i also did hear JCornel holds special NDA's. Im not very sure about this tho.

I know i got my neha b4 fugger, if anyone is wondering.

And if anything JCornel was ahead of all of us to neha. :T
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Can you comment on this? http://en.expreview.com/2008/1...-qx9770.html#more-1008
 
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Idontcare

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Originally posted by: aigomorla
this is to the extent of my NDA as of this moment:

http://i125.photobucket.com/al...aigomorla/nehaneha.jpg

you guys can see the date i had the chip.

That is about all im allowed to post at the moment. :T
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Since you have the chip, and are allowed to post photo of it, can you specify whether you have B0 or newer version?

If you have B0, will you be allowed to step-up to a retail stepping to generate your performance numbers?

All that withstanding, the most value-add information that I personally could use is to better understand the interaction between turbo mode and thread migration.

A run of SPi will sufficiently demonstrate this.

I'd be curious to know the performance detriment of allowing the SPi thread to migrate around the cores as the power-control tries and clock up and down the cores to support the thread. The context switching won't be a zero impact thing, it will no doubt slow down the SPi run. How much does it slow-down is my question.

I'm also curious to know how thread migration will be handled for say a quad-thread program...ideally one thread would stick to each core and nothing would getting shuffled into a SMT virtual core. But I don't see how that would work, so I'm curious to see performance penalty numbers that will be incurred from thread migration when four threads are running full-out.

(doesn't have to be a single 4-threaded program, this can be tested out with four single-threaded apps running 100%)
 
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