Core i5 versus 775 quad-core?

[VirtualLarry]

Just wondering. The Core i5 (correct me if I'm wrong), is really only a glorified dual-core (with hyperthreading), so that it handles 4 threads (just like a 775 quad-core), but doesn't have quite the dedicated resources of a real quad-core.

I'm guessing that price-wise, the Core i5 will be more expensive (because it's newer), and hopefully, 775 quads should drop in price when Core i5 comes out.

But will Core i5 be a better buy? If they are 32nm, they will probably be hella overclockable, that is, if Intel doesn't attempt to disable overclocking on them.

 

[cbn]

Depends on what LGA 775 you have.

I can only upgrade to Q6600 and that processor is $199 now (it actually increased in price)

For a budget system I'll bet Core i5 @ 32nm will be a better buy especially if extra thermal reserve can be gained through the stock CPU cooler by using a discrete GPU.

 

[cbn]

I just noticed you already have the Q6600 processor in your sig.

In your case I'll bet keeping that Q6600 makes more sense (particularly if you have a PCI-E 2.0 slot on your mobo rather than a PCI-E 1.x)

 

[ilkhan]

we're expecting the i5s to be lynnfields, 45nm quads. You are referring to the REAL budget chips, the i3 clarkdale chips (32nm/dual/GPU)
Id expect i3 to be the same 50-200 range as current duals, i5 to fill 150-300 range, bloomfield (later gulftown) to stay in the 260-1000 range.

 

[cbn]

Originally posted by: ilkhan
we're expecting the i5s to be lynnfields, 45nm quads. You are referring to the REAL budget chips, the i3 clarkdale chips (32nm/dual/GPU)
Id expect i3 to be the same 50-200 range as current duals, i5 to fill 150-300 range, bloomfield (later gulftown) to stay in the 260-1000 range.

The i3 is news to me.

I thought the new i5s were going to be 32nm duals with integrated GPU.

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuch...howdoc.aspx?i=3513&p=5

 

[jiffylube1024]

Core i5 is dual core (4 threads simultaneously) and quad core (8 threads simultaneously). Big difference between i7 and i5 is that i5 is only dual channel memory and the socket is fewer pins - 1156 vs 1366. I'm not 100% sure if there will be 6 core i5 chips or not.

 

[ilkhan]

you dont think the onboard PCI-E controller is a big difference?
there will almost certainly NOT be a 6 core LGA1156 chip.
i5 will be quads, i3 will be the duals. only the duals will have onboard GPUs.

Personally, I expect to see different x00 series chips for cache level, and 0x0 being the clock speed. Id like to see gulftown, lynnfield, and clarkdale all launch at the same time, it'd be a complete launch, something intel hasn't managed to do for a while. But I doubt it. Launching clarkdale/arrandale and gulftown together would probably strain intel's 32nm fab capability until a second fab gets brought online. Id REALLY like to see arrandale and clarkdale launch at the same time, at least. Unfortunately, intel can't validate enough fabs at once for a complete simultaneous launch.

 

[hans007]

Originally posted by: Just learning

Originally posted by: ilkhan
we're expecting the i5s to be lynnfields, 45nm quads. You are referring to the REAL budget chips, the i3 clarkdale chips (32nm/dual/GPU)
Id expect i3 to be the same 50-200 range as current duals, i5 to fill 150-300 range, bloomfield (later gulftown) to stay in the 260-1000 range.

The i3 is news to me.

I thought the new i5s were going to be 32nm duals with integrated GPU.

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuch...howdoc.aspx?i=3513&p=5

i am not sure its called the i3 per se, but there is supposed to be a cheaper varient that doesnt have an integrated memory controller, that can use DDR2.

 

[The Keeper]

I hope prices of Core 2 Quads, especially Q9650 will drop once i5 hits the shelves.

 

[ilkhan]

Originally posted by: hans007

Originally posted by: Just learning

Originally posted by: ilkhan
we're expecting the i5s to be lynnfields, 45nm quads. You are referring to the REAL budget chips, the i3 clarkdale chips (32nm/dual/GPU)
Id expect i3 to be the same 50-200 range as current duals, i5 to fill 150-300 range, bloomfield (later gulftown) to stay in the 260-1000 range.

The i3 is news to me.

I thought the new i5s were going to be 32nm duals with integrated GPU.

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuch...howdoc.aspx?i=3513&p=5

i am not sure its called the i3 per se, but there is supposed to be a cheaper varient that doesnt have an integrated memory controller, that can use DDR2.

yeah, good luck with that.

 

[Nightsilencer]

Without HT disabled the i5 probably won't perform any better than a solid Core 2 Duo. And even with HT, I don't expect to see a significant advantage over High-end Duals.

Keep your E8x00s everyone. They will last longer than you think.

I'm talking gaming-wise only.

 

[theprodigalrebel]

Originally posted by: jiffylube1024
I'm not 100% sure if there will be 6 core i5 chips or not.

My link-fu is down at the moment but I'm positive the last roadmap I saw mentioned 6-core will be restricted to i7.

 

[Hacp]

Originally posted by: Nightsilencer
Without HT disabled the i5 probably won't perform any better than a solid Core 2 Duo. And even with HT, I don't expect to see a significant advantage over High-end Duals.

Keep your E8x00s everyone. They will last longer than you think.

I'm talking gaming-wise only.

What about the memory controller?

 

[Tempered81]

JC already got his hands on a 32nm IGP Clarkdale, (i3)
http://www.xtremesystems.org/f...howthread.php?t=222931

 

[Rick James]

Originally posted by: jaredpace
JC already got his hands on a 32nm IGP Clarkdale, (i3)
http://www.xtremesystems.org/f...howthread.php?t=222931

Sweet

 

[Kraeoss]

nice

 

[ilkhan]

he posted a CPU-Z screenshot as well, unfortunently its almost worthless as nothing is filled in.

 

[Tempered81]

funny how pros with 32nm unreleased chips still running xp. heheh

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: jaredpace
funny how pros with 32nm unreleased chips still running xp. heheh

no its the only way to keep a same platform comparision.

By changing OS, they lose old platform that they conducted the test on.

Originally posted by: jaredpace
JC already got his hands on a 32nm IGP Clarkdale, (i3)
http://www.xtremesystems.org/f...howthread.php?t=222931

he's moved on from that a while ago Jarad.

Last time i was talking to him via pm's he was mumbling something about new gainestowns.

i think he was talking about E0 stepping i just got word of.

 

[Kraeoss]

aigo... why are you so l33t !