Core 2 Extreme has essentially the same "real world" performance as FX62

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dmens

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If real world means sitting on front of a gaming dorkbox all day, playing oblivion at 1600x1200 with an inadequate video card and shoving cheetos in your face, then yeah, I guess a conroe won't make a difference. :laugh:
 
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theteamaqua

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most games r gPU dependant .... with better CPU the higher the bottleneck is

my old P4 660 + GeForce 7800 GTX SLI was pretty bad bc of the cpu bottleneck
 
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rmed64

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retarded thread ftl!

20%-55% gaming performance advantage is nothing I guess (when eliminating GPU bottleneck at 640x480, putting "strain" on AI/logic of CPU)

ya, ok
 
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PhoenixOrion

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...and my "real world" wallet will be hurting too when I buy either one.

better yet, we'll just go for the E6600/E6700 for a LOT LESS money and enjoy "real world" uber-fast performance.
 
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akshayt

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Most of us will be playing these games at 12X10 or 16X12 if not higher on a single radeon 1900xt, right?

so for the majority this is the most accurate article.
 
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ITGuy is rapidly becoming known as a "Thread Arsonist". Swoops in, makes a contraversial thread topic, and is never heard from again within the thread. ITGuy!! You have been profiled. See ya when K8L is released. Send me a postcard.
 
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solgae1784

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Why this doesn't surprise me? It's quite obvious that at higher res, the GPU limitation comes into play. The main advantage would be that C2D will be able to give a lot more headroom when faster GPUs come.

I would still get a Core 2 Duo if I hadn't upgraded mine months ago. But going for X6800 Extreme is simply not worth it as of now and the main interest will go for OCers due to unlocked multiplier. Even then, Anandtech got 4GHz out of E6600, which has the same price point of an AM2 X2 3800+ as of now (though that will change).
 
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irwincur

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Intel have delivered a check mate.
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That may be pushing it.

Intel will be up - albiet slightly (not as much as expected by the pre-release seeded BS) for the next few years. Then the cycle will reverse. And your bandwagon ass will then be quoted as saying "AMD have delivered a check mate".

 
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A554SS1N

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Hehe, there's always some idiot who tries to convince us otherwise when virtually every other site is giving us a true representation of the Core 2 CPU's power. Just admit it: Core 2 Duo is faster than A64 - the main thing that's going to be interesting is prices in the budget segment, and whether AMD's pricecuts make the X2 models cheap enough to reflect the comparative performance to the new Intel chips.
 
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Canterwood

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Originally posted by: dmens
If real world means sitting on front of a gaming dorkbox all day, playing oblivion at 1600x1200 with an inadequate video card and shoving cheetos in your face, then yeah, I guess a conroe won't make a difference. :laugh:
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I'd assume a gaming dork would at least own an SLI rig. :)

 
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bennylong

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Originally posted by: irwincur
Intel have delivered a check mate.
Click to expand...

That may be pushing it.

Intel will be up - albiet slightly (not as much as expected by the pre-release seeded BS) for the next few years. Then the cycle will reverse. And your bandwagon ass will then be quoted as saying "AMD have delivered a check mate".
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Bandwagon ass. LOL. Anyone that has brand loyalty is just an idiot.
 
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bobdelt

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For gaming yes. But not for a cpu review, with regard to the value of your investment and the future power of your chip. Are you never going to upgrade your video card? Are you never going to play more cpu intensive games?

But keep telling yourself that, you can justify your $1000 sub par am2 cpu that way.
 
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Pugnate

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Originally posted by: irwincur
Intel have delivered a check mate.
Click to expand...

That may be pushing it.

Intel will be up - albiet slightly (not as much as expected by the pre-release seeded BS) for the next few years. Then the cycle will reverse. And your bandwagon ass will then be quoted as saying "AMD have delivered a check mate".
Click to expand...

If I am a bandwagon jumper then you are most definitely a fanboy.

Let's just examine the idiotic nature of what you said. Why are calling me a band wagon jumper? Is it because I am willing to change the company that I buy my next processor from, because for $700 less I get the same performance?

That doesn't make me a bandwagon jumper. It makes me practical.

You are willing to spend $700 more on an FX 62, even though you will get the same performance? That makes you something else entirely.

Or is it that you recently bought an AMD chip and feel the need to justify your purchase?

Some of us actually work hard for the money we earn. I am going to buy what is best in terms of performance and cost, yet at the same time I will be hoping that AMD makes a strong come back. It creates competition, and we have AMD's dominance in part to thank for this incredible new processor from Intel.
 
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bobdelt

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Originally posted by: irwincur
Intel have delivered a check mate.
Click to expand...

Intel will be up - albiet slightly (not as much as expected by the pre-release seeded BS) for the next few years. Then the cycle will reverse. And your bandwagon ass will then be quoted as saying "AMD have delivered a check mate".
Click to expand...


lol. So you admit you're a fanboi? And I would consider a 300 dollar cpu beating a 1000 dollar cpu, Amd's best offering a check mate. Plus most e6600s and e6400s are overclock well over 3ghz, almost 4.
 
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Pugnate

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Look I love AMD as well.

I stopped with Intel after the P2. I even had a K6 at some point. The T-bird 1.4 was my first Athlon and it rocked.

But let's all be big enough to admit, Intel have done something special here.
 
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nippyjun

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Why is it that many people have been willing to pay more for less performance up until now (ie, people buying intel chips in the last year or 2)?

Answer: Intel has better marketing and better partnerships.

So, What should AMD do now to compete? as they have lost the ability to compete when it comes to performance.

Options: 1. Lower prices.
2. Release FX 64 and FX 66 (in limited quantities if they are hard to mass produce) to keep somewhat competitive.
3. Make better partnerships
4. Improve their marketing
5. All the above

Answer: 5.... all the above


PS. I'm a big AMD fan so i'm not trying to bash them in any way. I want good competition so we see better products/ prices.
 
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Barfo

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Originally posted by: irwincur
Intel have delivered a check mate.
Click to expand...

That may be pushing it.

Intel will be up - albiet slightly (not as much as expected by the pre-release seeded BS) for the next few years. Then the cycle will reverse. And your bandwagon ass will then be quoted as saying "AMD have delivered a check mate".
Click to expand...

I guess you already know what will happen in 2008 :roll:

 
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Visual

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real world performance means ms office performance for most parts of the world :p
so i guess conroe isn't much better than my 486 after all.
 
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