Copying a 7 GB video DVD - how?

[TheNiceGuy]

Hi all.
I need to copy 2 movie DVDs, one is 7.77 GB and the othe is 5.78 GB. But all the DVDs at the store are 4.7 GB. Ideas?
Thanks!

 

[IlllI]

maybe use something like dvd shrink?

 

[matas]

use double layer dvd. U can get them online like at newegg or somthng.

 

[YOyoYOhowsDAjello]

Compress it or split it into two files and burn two single layer discs

 

[potato28]

DVD Shrink.

 

[Muse]

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Compress it or split it into two files and burn two single layer discs

How would you split it in two?

I have a dual layer burner but last time I checked, dual layer DVDR blanks cost around $5 or so, so I've never used them. I've used DVD Shrink quite a bit, DVD Fab Decrypter when DVD Shrink has problems, then DVD Shrink on the decrypted files. Of course, doing that I still have to shrink everything down to single layer burnable.

 

[TheNiceGuy]

I'm a bit lost.
These DVDs are full movies, each has 3 audio and subtitle tracks, plus the normal DVD menu. I need them to end up being playable on any standard DVD player. I have the DVD burner in my sig. Which option can do this?

 

[Muse]

Originally posted by: TheNiceGuy
I'm a bit lost.
These DVDs are full movies, each has 3 audio and subtitle tracks, plus the normal DVD menu. I need them to end up being playable on any standard DVD player. I have the DVD burner in my sig. Which option can do this?

If you can do without 2 of those subtitle tracks, don't use them. Myself, I'm only interested in the English subtitles and the others just get in the way. When I use DVDShrink I configure things so I leave unwanted stuff out.

There are two buttons at the top:

Full Disk
Reauthor

In the options I have DVDShrink configured to only rip English subtitiles. You have the option before going ahead with the rip of selecting the others, too, should you want them. If the whole movie will fit on a single layer disk at 100%, I click Full Disk. If the % is quite a bit less (say less than 70% or 60%), unless I really want all the features complete with the menu system, I click Reauthor and then in the right pane, expand the tree and drag the title over to the left pane. Then I click the Compression Settings pane and see my % compression. If it's very low, I might deselect some features I don't really require, such as DTS audio. That generally takes twice as much space as Dolby 5.1. If I don't want additional audio tracks (e.g. director's commentary), I might deselect additional audio tracks. Really, you can get along with just one audio track, normally. I usually keep the director/cast commentary track. When you've made all your decisions, click either the Full Disk or Reauthor button and away you go. The program does a full analysis followed by an encoding. All that takes around an hour depending on the speed of your machine and the amount of data on the disk and the features you have elected to keep. Then it asks you for a blank disk to write to.

 

[shira]

Originally posted by: Muse

Originally posted by: TheNiceGuy
I'm a bit lost.
These DVDs are full movies, each has 3 audio and subtitle tracks, plus the normal DVD menu. I need them to end up being playable on any standard DVD player. I have the DVD burner in my sig. Which option can do this?

If you can do without 2 of those subtitle tracks, don't use them. Myself, I'm only interested in the English subtitles and the others just get in the way. When I use DVDShrink I configure things so I leave unwanted stuff out.

There are two buttons at the top:

Full Disk
Reauthor

In the options I have DVDShrink configured to only rip English subtitiles. You have the option before going ahead with the rip of selecting the others, too, should you want them. If the whole movie will fit on a single layer disk at 100%, I click Full Disk. If the % is quite a bit less (say less than 70% or 60%), unless I really want all the features complete with the menu system, I click Reauthor and then in the right pane, expand the tree and drag the title over to the left pane. Then I click the Compression Settings pane and see my % compression. If it's very low, I might deselect some features I don't really require, such as DTS audio. That generally takes twice as much space as Dolby 5.1. If I don't want additional audio tracks (e.g. director's commentary), I might deselect additional audio tracks. Really, you can get along with just one audio track, normally. I usually keep the director/cast commentary track. When you've made all your decisions, click either the Full Disk or Reauthor button and away you go. The program does a full analysis followed by an encoding. All that takes around an hour depending on the speed of your machine and the amount of data on the disk and the features you have elected to keep. Then it asks you for a blank disk to write to.

All of this is true, but the fact remains that if you start with a DVD9, you often have to use a lossy compression to get it to fit on a DVD5. If the compression is 20% or greater, you can definitely see the difference.

There are programs that can actually split a DVD9 into two DVD5s with no loss of quality. CloneDVD is one that comes to mind.

 

[YOyoYOhowsDAjello]

Originally posted by: Muse

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Compress it or split it into two files and burn two single layer discs

How would you split it in two?

I have a dual layer burner but last time I checked, dual layer DVDR blanks cost around $5 or so, so I've never used them. I've used DVD Shrink quite a bit, DVD Fab Decrypter when DVD Shrink has problems, then DVD Shrink on the decrypted files. Of course, doing that I still have to shrink everything down to single layer burnable.

When you re-author with DVD Shrink, you can select the starting and ending frames. I'll look for a good chapter change to split the movie in two parts and then backup to two different files and burn two DVDs. I'd much rather have to put a second DVD in halfway through the movie than to have to spend the extra to get dual layer discs.

 

[Muse]

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello

Originally posted by: Muse

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Compress it or split it into two files and burn two single layer discs

How would you split it in two?

I have a dual layer burner but last time I checked, dual layer DVDR blanks cost around $5 or so, so I've never used them. I've used DVD Shrink quite a bit, DVD Fab Decrypter when DVD Shrink has problems, then DVD Shrink on the decrypted files. Of course, doing that I still have to shrink everything down to single layer burnable.

When you re-author with DVD Shrink, you can select the starting and ending frames. I'll look for a good chapter change to split the movie in two parts and then backup to two different files and burn two DVDs. I'd much rather have to put a second DVD in halfway through the movie than to have to spend the extra to get dual layer discs.

Cool, I didn't know you can do that.

I've ripped a lot of movies with DVD shrink, and even at ~60% I've found it not so bad. At 70%, really the degradation is usually not noticeable to me, and I'm viewing on a projection big screen system. For under 60%, though, I will try and see if I can split disks like this. Can you do this with a Full Disk rip, retaining all the features and menu options?

 

[YOyoYOhowsDAjello]

Originally posted by: Muse

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello

Originally posted by: Muse

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Compress it or split it into two files and burn two single layer discs

How would you split it in two?

I have a dual layer burner but last time I checked, dual layer DVDR blanks cost around $5 or so, so I've never used them. I've used DVD Shrink quite a bit, DVD Fab Decrypter when DVD Shrink has problems, then DVD Shrink on the decrypted files. Of course, doing that I still have to shrink everything down to single layer burnable.

When you re-author with DVD Shrink, you can select the starting and ending frames. I'll look for a good chapter change to split the movie in two parts and then backup to two different files and burn two DVDs. I'd much rather have to put a second DVD in halfway through the movie than to have to spend the extra to get dual layer discs.

Cool, I didn't know you can do that.

I've ripped a lot of movies with DVD shrink, and even at ~60% I've found it not so bad. At 70%, really the degradation is usually not noticeable to me, and I'm viewing on a projection big screen system. For under 60%, though, I will try and see if I can split disks like this. Can you do this with a Full Disk rip, retaining all the features and menu options?

I always get rid of the menus and only keep the audio track I'm actually going to use.

DVDshrink only allows you to split when you're re-authoring, so menu structure is lost.

I only split when I actually think it's actually a movie when I think it will be mastered well and I'll actually care what it looks like.

I'm on front projection as well and at 102" I think the variance in original DVD quality has a far bigger impact on how things look in the end vs. the compression levels. There are a lot of sh!tty looking DVDs out there

 

[n7]

DVD Rebuilder + CCE is the best possible way to turn DVD9 content into DVD5 content with no or little quality loss.

 

[TheNiceGuy]

Thanks for the help everybody.
BTW, the movies are trilingual. I need at least 2 of the audi/sub tracks. One I can do without.