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Flyback

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Originally posted by: manowar821

I know, I understand that it's hard. But if they can't get some by being intriguing to women, why should they get to just pay for it? That defeats the purpose of dating and such.

Just jack off, it's easier, free, and safe.

#1 Jacking off is not nearly the same as sex.
#2 There is no reason you have to abide by social constructs and rules such as dating before sex. Your thought process is so bizarre. Do you let people tell you when to piss, even?

I'm done with this thread.
 

manowar821

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Originally posted by: Flyback
Originally posted by: manowar821

I know, I understand that it's hard. But if they can't get some by being intriguing to women, why should they get to just pay for it? That defeats the purpose of dating and such.

Just jack off, it's easier, free, and safe.

#1 Jacking off is not nearly the same as sex.
#2 There is no reason you have to abide by social constructs and rules such as dating before sex. Your thought process is so bizarre. Do you let people tell you when to piss, even?

I'm done with this thread.

Good, you're kind of jerk.
 

krunchykrome

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This is a low blow, but how about we all post our pics. I'd like to see what 3chordcharlie and flyback look like. Sao123 is posted in the ATOT gallery, but Id like to see if there is a pattern here regarding looks.
 

erub

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Originally posted by: Flyback
Originally posted by: manowar821

I know, I understand that it's hard. But if they can't get some by being intriguing to women, why should they get to just pay for it? That defeats the purpose of dating and such.

Just jack off, it's easier, free, and safe.

#1 Jacking off is not nearly the same as sex.
#2 There is no reason you have to abide by social constructs and rules such as dating before sex. Your thought process is so bizarre. Do you let people tell you when to piss, even?

I'm done with this thread.

I thought I'd elaborate on my dating is a 'sham' thing. What the heck is dating in the modern era anyway? It seems that the good relationships I have been in began with us 'hooking up', then dating becomes more 'hanging out', where we do some activities together (identical to activites one does with a male/female friend..then come back and get it on). On the other hand, girls that I've taken out on dates recently..somehow it seems harder to go from date->hooking up then the other way around, ala the rice girl thread from back in December
 

MrPickins

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Originally posted by: krunchykrome
This is a low blow, but how about we all post our pics. I'd like to see what 3chordcharlie and flyback look like. Sao123 is posted in the ATOT gallery, but Id like to see if there is a pattern here regarding looks.

Are you implying that the only reason they argue in favor of legalized prostitution is because they can't get any without paying?

:roll:


I for one would rather see these women be able to do it in a legal, safe environment (i.e. away from pimps). They're going to do it anyway, might as well try to lessen the harm on the women.
 

3chordcharlie

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Originally posted by: krunchykrome
This is a low blow, but how about we all post our pics. I'd like to see what 3chordcharlie and flyback look like. Sao123 is posted in the ATOT gallery, but Id like to see if there is a pattern here regarding looks.

I've posted a nude (except for a 8x10 sign) picture on here before, I'm not exactly upset about the way I look, though I don't claim to be a model. Sadly I can't find the thread (pretty sure it was a P&N photos thread).

I don't see, however, why having trouble or great ease getting laid personally would affect anyone's position on prostitution.
 

krunchykrome

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Originally posted by: MrPickins
Originally posted by: krunchykrome
This is a low blow, but how about we all post our pics. I'd like to see what 3chordcharlie and flyback look like. Sao123 is posted in the ATOT gallery, but Id like to see if there is a pattern here regarding looks.

Are you implying that the only reason they argue in favor of legalized prostitution is because they can't get any without paying?

:roll:


I for one would rather see these women be able to do it in a legal, safe environment (i.e. away from pimps). They're going to do it anyway, might as well try to lessen the harm on the women.

Yes, thats exactly what Im implying. I also would like to see if people are willing to put their faces out there while defending prostitution. Some of you are defending it like it's a daily activity for you.

I'd also like to hear some female persepctive on this issue.
 

3chordcharlie

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Originally posted by: erub
I thought I'd elaborate on my dating is a 'sham' thing. What the heck is dating in the modern era anyway? It seems that the good relationships I have been in began with us 'hooking up', then dating becomes more 'hanging out', where we do some activities together (identical to activites one does with a male/female friend..then come back and get it on). On the other hand, girls that I've taken out on dates recently..somehow it seems harder to go from date->hooking up then the other way around, ala the rice girl thread from back in December
I've found that a bit too. When I was in high school, and once in a while in University, dating came first. Now it's more like nothing ever happens without a test-drive, and first-dates are usually unsatisfying last dates, too. (But first hook-ups often lead to second ones and more).
 

krunchykrome

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Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie
Originally posted by: krunchykrome
This is a low blow, but how about we all post our pics. I'd like to see what 3chordcharlie and flyback look like. Sao123 is posted in the ATOT gallery, but Id like to see if there is a pattern here regarding looks.

I've posted a nude (except for a 8x10 sign) picture on here before, I'm not exactly upset about the way I look, though I don't claim to be a model. Sadly I can't find the thread (pretty sure it was a P&N photos thread).

I don't see, however, why having trouble or great ease getting laid personally would affect anyone's position on prostitution.

I didnt ask you to defend the way you look. I asked you for a picture of your face.
 

MrPickins

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Originally posted by: krunchykrome
Originally posted by: MrPickins
Originally posted by: krunchykrome
This is a low blow, but how about we all post our pics. I'd like to see what 3chordcharlie and flyback look like. Sao123 is posted in the ATOT gallery, but Id like to see if there is a pattern here regarding looks.

Are you implying that the only reason they argue in favor of legalized prostitution is because they can't get any without paying?

:roll:


I for one would rather see these women be able to do it in a legal, safe environment (i.e. away from pimps). They're going to do it anyway, might as well try to lessen the harm on the women.

Yes, thats exactly what Im implying. I also would like to see if people are willing to put their faces out there while defending prostitution. Some of you are defending it like it's a daily activity for you.

I'd also like to hear some female persepctive on this issue.

Some reading for you:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem#Ad_hominem_circumstantial
 

3chordcharlie

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Originally posted by: krunchykrome
Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie
Originally posted by: krunchykrome
This is a low blow, but how about we all post our pics. I'd like to see what 3chordcharlie and flyback look like. Sao123 is posted in the ATOT gallery, but Id like to see if there is a pattern here regarding looks.

I've posted a nude (except for a 8x10 sign) picture on here before, I'm not exactly upset about the way I look, though I don't claim to be a model. Sadly I can't find the thread (pretty sure it was a P&N photos thread).

I don't see, however, why having trouble or great ease getting laid personally would affect anyone's position on prostitution.

I didnt ask you to defend the way you look. I asked you for a picture of your face.
My face was in the pic - if I can dig up another one, I'll post it though.
 

eleison

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Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie
Originally posted by: krunchykrome
This is a low blow, but how about we all post our pics. I'd like to see what 3chordcharlie and flyback look like. Sao123 is posted in the ATOT gallery, but Id like to see if there is a pattern here regarding looks.

I've posted a nude (except for a 8x10 sign) picture on here before, I'm not exactly upset about the way I look, though I don't claim to be a model. Sadly I can't find the thread (pretty sure it was a P&N photos thread).

I don't see, however, why having trouble or great ease getting laid personally would affect anyone's position on prostitution.


Agreed... besides, what does looks have to do with this? its all about whats inside.. ;) So many people are spewing their moral beliefs in this threads. I'm pretty sure some of the people in here will only be happy when prostitution is completely wiped off the face of the earth... heck we've been doing such a good job for the fews hundreds of years :confused: ... worse case, if these teenage girls continue, heck we could just stone them.... because as we know, the worlds' oldest profession is the root of all our problems.. once its gone, utopia on earth...

Richard Branson, one of the worlds riches man, went to a prostitute to lose his virginity... his father who was a magistrate took him...

 

krunchykrome

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Originally posted by: MrPickins
Originally posted by: krunchykrome
Originally posted by: MrPickins
Originally posted by: krunchykrome
This is a low blow, but how about we all post our pics. I'd like to see what 3chordcharlie and flyback look like. Sao123 is posted in the ATOT gallery, but Id like to see if there is a pattern here regarding looks.

Are you implying that the only reason they argue in favor of legalized prostitution is because they can't get any without paying?

:roll:


I for one would rather see these women be able to do it in a legal, safe environment (i.e. away from pimps). They're going to do it anyway, might as well try to lessen the harm on the women.

Yes, thats exactly what Im implying. I also would like to see if people are willing to put their faces out there while defending prostitution. Some of you are defending it like it's a daily activity for you.

I'd also like to hear some female persepctive on this issue.

Some reading for you:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem

Wikipedia is not a credible source nof information, but I understand what you meant by posting it.

How about we post our pics for this reason only, just to see who is willing to put their face out there while proudly defending prostitution.

Any takers?

 

sao123

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Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie
Originally posted by: sao123
Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie
Originally posted by: sao123
Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie
Originally posted by: sao123
Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie
If you have a point, please make it.

There are other industries with the potential for all of these issues. They all still exist.

You're tying to argue around the fact that you just don't like the idea of prostitution. It kind of reminds me of Intelligent Design, actually.



No... what I dont like is the "everyone police themselves" new world order of chaos that you are proposing. If people were capable of policing themselves, government would have never become necessary in the beginning.

What new world order? If you believe in regulation so strongly, than regulate everything about prostitution. Most employee/employer stuff would be covered under current laws (actually, I imagine most prostitutes would be classified as contractors).

Again, you're making an argument that just isn't there. Either go back to your originl position of legislating subjective morality, or accept that you are wrong.


How is regulating everything about prostitution any less invasive on individuals rights, than completely outlawing it? Your original argument, was the government should completely "butt-out" of peoples sex lives.



Let me develop a mini set of rules and we'll see how this works out.

1)No Bondage because of liability issues
2)No restricted breathing because of liability issues
3)No particiation while under a controlled substance
4)Oral sex is only permissible when the worker is the giver, and the client is the reciever.
5)Clients with documented heart problems are ineligible
6)Condoms are mandatory, if the condom breaks, all activity must cease until it is replaced...

when the rules get so restrictive, that you can only do missionary for a maximum of 38 minutes without an OSHA rest break, are you going to cry foul again, that the government should be regulating this business?

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Are you going to re-write right to work acts, so that a worker cannot be fired for refusing to perform a particular act with a paying client?
I think it's stupid to regulate everything about it; you're the one who's so concerned.

Estheticians have no issues refusing to do brazillian waxes, and it is a rare boss who will fire one because of it.

Your argument is absolutely terrible. I'm sorry, but it is.



Regulating it is the way of protecting Employer, Employee, and customer from lawsuits. Especially in mal-practice, worker injury, or discrimination...
Or perhaps you have forgotten our sue happy medical profession...

Can a white girl refuse to sleep with an african american? Is it her body? or is that racial discrimination? (And if this was a corporate environment...Can she be fired for refusing?)

or

Couple has relations in the shower at request of the client, they both fall and are injured... lawsuit resolution?

I can think of plenty mroe situations which show that this would require strict regulation...

If a clent asks me to climb a tree (for pruning) and I do so, and I fall out, what happens? There's no difference!

Contractors don't have to provide services. If you open a shop, and advertise a price, so that the appearance is 'anyone' can buy services for that price, then yes, you would have to provide the service. But you aren't forced to run your business that way.

You're trying to apply problems that already exist in industry to this one situation, and make it appear that they are insurmountable obstacles. It isn't working.


The "independent contractor method" of which you speak is haphazard for un-enforcability of regulations. The only way this would work is a corporate work or small business environment, like a managed whore house.
then all of the problems which I have accounted to you, become valid concerns. Not insurmountable, but far riskier than a climbing tree trimmer as far as lawsuits are concerned.
 

3chordcharlie

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Originally posted by: sao123
The "independent contractor method" of which you speak is haphazard for un-enforcability of regulations. The only way this would work is a corporate work or small business environment, like a managed whore house.
then all of the problems which I have accounted to you, become valid concerns. Not insurmountable, but far riskier than a climbing tree trimmer as far as lawsuits are concerned.
I can't think of a profession that is more 'independent contractor'-friendly than prostitution, but any way you look at it, you're just throwing FUD around. Many industries have problems and potential problems, and yet are not illegal.
 

MrPickins

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Originally posted by: krunchykrome

Wikipedia is not a credible source nof information, but I understand what you meant by posting it.

How about we post our pics for this reason only, just to see who is willing to put their face out there while proudly defending prostitution.

Any takers?

I've posted my photo here before. If you want to see it so bad, find it.

I'm not ashamed of my stance, I'd be willing do debate it to my mother/grandmother.
 

eleison

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Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie
Originally posted by: krunchykrome
Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie
Originally posted by: krunchykrome
This is a low blow, but how about we all post our pics. I'd like to see what 3chordcharlie and flyback look like. Sao123 is posted in the ATOT gallery, but Id like to see if there is a pattern here regarding looks.

I've posted a nude (except for a 8x10 sign) picture on here before, I'm not exactly upset about the way I look, though I don't claim to be a model. Sadly I can't find the thread (pretty sure it was a P&N photos thread).

I don't see, however, why having trouble or great ease getting laid personally would affect anyone's position on prostitution.

I didnt ask you to defend the way you look. I asked you for a picture of your face.
My face was in the pic - if I can dig up another one, I'll post it though.


I have also posted a picture of myself on this forum.. actually, I was shirtless... and people told me to put it back on.. hahahaha... I'm sure someone must of saved it...

I guess I defend prostitution because... well, I was not born here... Unlike some people who are closed minded.. (some probably have never even visited another culture).. well, I've noticed lifes a little bit more on the grey side, instead of black and white :)
 

3chordcharlie

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Originally posted by: eleison
I have also posted a picture of myself on this forum.. actually, I was shirtless... and people told me to put it back on.. hahahaha... I'm sure someone must of saved it...

I guess I defend prostitution because... well, I was not born here... Unlike some people who are closed minded.. (some probably have never even visited another culture).. well, I've noticed lifes a little bit more on the grey side, instead of black and white :)
I'm pretty sure mine is on bbzzdd somewhere, but not under my user name, ad I don't know much about how to search the site, or what the picture was called, or anything else.

The sign said 'P&Ners do it in the buff' or something like that, though.
 

eleison

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Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie

I'm pretty sure mine is on bbzzdd somewhere, but not under my user name, ad I don't know much about how to search the site, or what the picture was called, or anything else.

The sign said 'P&Ners do it in the buff' or something like that, though.

I swear.. sometimes these moralistic "do-gooders".. man, they really get on my nerves... In any case, unless they bring up any good points, I'm checking out. Take care though :)
 

manowar821

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Originally posted by: eleison
Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie
Originally posted by: krunchykrome
Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie
Originally posted by: krunchykrome
This is a low blow, but how about we all post our pics. I'd like to see what 3chordcharlie and flyback look like. Sao123 is posted in the ATOT gallery, but Id like to see if there is a pattern here regarding looks.

I've posted a nude (except for a 8x10 sign) picture on here before, I'm not exactly upset about the way I look, though I don't claim to be a model. Sadly I can't find the thread (pretty sure it was a P&N photos thread).

I don't see, however, why having trouble or great ease getting laid personally would affect anyone's position on prostitution.

I didnt ask you to defend the way you look. I asked you for a picture of your face.
My face was in the pic - if I can dig up another one, I'll post it though.


I have also posted a picture of myself on this forum.. actually, I was shirtless... and people told me to put it back on.. hahahaha... I'm sure someone must of saved it...

I guess I defend prostitution because... well, I was not born here... Unlike some people who are closed minded.. (some probably have never even visited another culture).. well, I've noticed lifes a little bit more on the grey side, instead of black and white :)

I cannot understand why people pull the "closed minded" card on people when ever they disagree with something that is promiscuous. It's different than being against gays, or polygamous relationships. (both of which I think are just fine).

Why exactly am I closed minded for not wanting to support capitalization of prostitution? Just because it's been done plenty of times in the past does not make it good, or right.

Making it safer would draw more women into the "profession"... Would that be good?

Better yet, say you have a daughter, and she decided her "career" is going to be prostitution. Good for her, yes? Or no?

I'm sorry, but I was just fine relieving myself until I met a girl who actually had interest in me.

Try controlling yourself?
 

Flyback

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To reduce the argument to a picture as to determine the reasoning behinds someone stance is sheer stupidity.

I have never and will never use a prostitute's services. I don't have to support what they do to support their freedoms. Unfortunately many people take this point of view: if the law doesn't restrict me then its "a-okay". It isn't. Laws should be scrutinized, not freely thrown around and created. You should always ask how you can reduce & minimize the amount of law, never increase it.

The problem with this world is that too many people think of the government as a means to restrict what people can do. You should instead ask what you can do to give people more freedom. Too many people are saying "how can I stop person from doing xyz because I don't approve". Newsflash: it's none of your fvcking business.

I will not partake in a photo swap--not because I'm ugly, but the whole premise behind it is absurd. You don't have to be a desperate fat slob to see why prostitution should be legal.

I support the legalization of drugs for the same reason: not because I'm a drug user, but because it isn't any of my damn business what other people do in their own time as long as it doesn't harm me.

(Now I'm really done with this thread.)
 

Excelsior

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Better yet, say you have a daughter, and she decided her "career" is going to be prostitution. Good for her, yes? Or no?

Having a daughter who aspires to be a prostitute is a big problem whether prostitution is legal or not. I doubt any father/mother on here would willingly support his/her daughter in such a decision, but that doesn't stop hundreds of thousands of women from being prostitutes. Chances are, those girls don't have the best relationships with their parents, or had less than stellar childhood.
 

manowar821

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Originally posted by: Flyback
To reduce the argument to a picture as to determine the reasoning behinds someone stance is sheer stupidity.

I have never and will never use a prostitute's services. I don't have to support what they do to support their freedoms. Unfortunately many people take this point of view: if the law doesn't restrict me then its "a-okay". It isn't. Laws should be scrutinized, not freely thrown around and created. You should always ask how you can reduce & minimize the amount of law, never increase it.

The problem with this world is that too many people think of the government as a means to restrict what people can do. You should instead ask what you can do to give people more freedom. Too many people are saying "how can I stop person from doing xyz because I don't approve". Newsflash: it's none of your fvcking business.

I will not partake in a photo swap--not because I'm ugly, but the whole premise behind it is absurd. You don't have to be a desperate fat slob to see why prostitution should be legal.

I support the legalization of drugs for the same reason: not because I'm a drug user, but because it isn't any of my damn business what other people do in their own time as long as it doesn't harm me.

(Now I'm really done with this thread.)

Oh my god, I kind of agree with you.