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balloonshark

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Yeah? And who is going to show up when you call 911? That long haired freak? Or, are you a tough guy who does not need to call the cops? :whiste:
I expect the guy to show up that gets paid for that job. He's getting paid to protect and not throw or intimidate someone even if they are idiots.

A cop should be able to assess the situation in the blink of an eye. If it's not an immediate threat then he should investigate if further. That doesn't give him the right to intimidate and shove a person that isn't a threat.

Many of us have stressful jobs and some even have jobs that involve physical danger. That doesn't mean they get to treat other humans like crap with immunity.
 

Vaux

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Oh great, more toughguy responses from cops. :rolleyes:

Toughguy has nothing to do with it. How about you try the job for a while instead of sitting there talking shit about something you know nothing about?

That goes for all of you people in here talking shit.
 
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I expect the guy to show up that gets paid for that job. He's getting paid to protect and not throw or intimidate someone even if they are idiots.

A cop should be able to assess the situation in the blink of an eye. If it's not an immediate threat then he should investigate if further. That doesn't give him the right to intimidate and shove a person that isn't a threat.

Many of us have stressful jobs and some even have jobs that involve physical danger. That doesn't mean they get to treat other humans like crap with immunity.

Can you do that? If so then maybe you should be a cop. Show them how it's done. Why do I get the distinct impression you only think you can do that? If only you knew how. Then you could assess this situation you're in "in the blink of an eye".
 

TheSlamma

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Toughguy has nothing to do with it. How about you try the job for a while instead of sitting there talking shit about something you know nothing about?

That goes for all of you people in here talking shit.
Yes because people in their 40's and up can just drop their career and go become cops, never mind the lie detector portion that might include the question on how people feel about these current situations and knowing cops they don't want it to change. They like their current state of unquestioned authority, it's what gets that personality type off.

Sounds like a promising endeavor. Sorry you are mad cause we don't sympathize with this bad behavior like you do.
 

crashtech

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I just watched it again 3 times when the cop pushed him.

I do not think that cop had the proper center of gravity to toss that kid like he did. The kid went limp on purpose.

The shaking video was a bit suspicious also after a whole day of perfect steady holding all the sudden the camera man went crazy shaking as if he was being handled also but wasn't.
 

Brovane

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Toughguy has nothing to do with it. How about you try the job for a while instead of sitting there talking shit about something you know nothing about?

That goes for all of you people in here talking shit.

The Police Officers actions and language show a lack of discipline and the physical contact initiated by the officer was inappropiatte considering the lack of threat from the civilian. If a private sector employee was recorded doing the same type of behavior, their employer would have fired them.
 

Rakehellion

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Toughguy has nothing to do with it.
But then you say:
How about you try the job for a while instead of sitting there talking shit about something you know nothing about?

That goes for all of you people in here talking shit.

Cool story, toughguy.

I don't give a fuck how difficult you think your job is. That doesn't give you the right to treat people like shit.

I'll call the police for help like I'll call a loan shark for financial advice.
 
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master_shake_

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wow...

dancing is a crime now.

it's a hard job keeping track of the laws against living while black.
 

Ackmed

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Here is a view that contains the right figures, but argues that the raw numbers plus other factors are more significant. But the fact remains that the death rate per 100,000 remains far lower than many other occupations, and I do believe that is a fair and significant measure:

http://criminologycareers.about.com/od/Career_Trends/a/Dangers-In-Criminal-Justice-Careers.htm

Your article doesn't back up your statement if you read the article. I know one thing, garbage collectors don't have to worry about being executed from behind while doing their job.

Which is the whole issue with this street dancer. He came up behind Officers just after two of theirs got executed from behind. Why does anyone think this is a good idea? He's just an attention whore. A pretty funny one it seems normally. That was just a bad idea on his part. Someone who is so balanced on his feet "fell" from a push? C'mon now. It doesn't matter if he was black or white. They obviously didn't want anyone behind them. After what happened, I don't blame them. That being said, how they talked and acted wasn't appropriate. It could have been handled better for sure.
 

Mai72

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Being a police officer is a difficult job. Being a cop in NYC is both stressful and dangerous. I wouldn't want to do it. I don't care how much I was being paid.

With that said police are held to a higher standard. Because of their job, they are expected to be professional at all times. It's the same thing for educators. No matter the circumstance you are expected to be professional. Educators and police are held to a higher standard. If that is too much to ask then they should quit and find another line of work.

I can only form an opinion on what I saw in the video. I wasn't there. Maybe the prankster took a spill on purpose. It's possible. The camera was shaking and it was cleverly edited to favor him. I get that. Let's look at what we do know.

Did the police harass the prankster? (yes)
Did the police use profanity? (yes)
Were the police unkind? (yes)

We know this. It's on film. Again, the police are held to a higher standard because they are supposed to act professionally. How would you react to a special needs teacher who loses it and starts belittling his autistic students? Or his behaviorally/emotionally disturbed students? You'd want the teacher fired! Why do we put up with the same nonsense from the police?
 

BoberFett

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You're right, Bober.

Do you carry or own a gun?

I own several. And yet I've never shot or beat the crap out of someone for being a douche. Fortunately my ego doesn't depend on my ability to harm others, unlike the assorted pork products which make up the US law enforcement.
 

BoberFett

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So is being a garbage collector. In fact, being a garbage collector is far more dangerous, statistically. But they are not assaulting citizens for not leaving their bins out by the road.

LOL, this man speaks the truth.
 

BoberFett

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Your article doesn't back up your statement if you read the article. I know one thing, garbage collectors don't have to worry about being executed from behind while doing their job.

Neither do cops, statistically.
 

crashtech

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Your article doesn't back up your statement if you read the article.

Yes it does. The death rates per 100,000 are there. I purposely posted an article which disagreed with my assessment of the data so it would be harder for you to dismiss, yet, unsurprisingly, you have managed to do so anyway.

Here's the link again, in case a more impartial reader wants a look:

http://criminologycareers.about.com/od/Career_Trends/a/Dangers-In-Criminal-Justice-Careers.htm

The author disagrees with my opinion about which job is more dangerous, but at least the figures are there for people to draw their own conclusions, as I have.
 

twinrider1

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Pfft. I have to deal with annoying people every day, yet I am not expected to assault them, nor is it a foregone conclusion that I will get away with it.

Not just annoying, but annoying in your personal space. How long would you let someone snap their fingers in front of your eyes. And if they followed you and kept doing it, walking in step with you an inch behind you. That would never get to you.
Never said what they did was right, but it's understandable.
 

Brovane

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Not just annoying, but annoying in your personal space. How long would you let someone snap their fingers in front of your eyes. And if they followed you and kept doing it, walking in step with you an inch behind you. That would never get to you.
Never said what they did was right, but it's understandable.

This is the #1 issue I have with the current Criminal Justice system, lack of consistent accountability. The cops actions would have gotten a private sector employee fired. The cops feel like they are above being accountable for their actions.
 

Ackmed

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Neither do cops, statistically.

It just happened. Stats or not, it happens.

Yes it does. The death rates per 100,000 are there. I purposely posted an article which disagreed with my assessment of the data so it would be harder for you to dismiss, yet, unsurprisingly, you have managed to do so anyway.

Here's the link again, in case a more impartial reader wants a look:

http://criminologycareers.about.com/od/Career_Trends/a/Dangers-In-Criminal-Justice-Careers.htm

The author disagrees with my opinion about which job is more dangerous, but at least the figures are there for people to draw their own conclusions, as I have.

You're comparing apples to oranges. I do not think that garbage collectors have people shooting at them, trying to execute them, fighting them, or die from anything other than traffic accidents. There may be an exception here or there, but feel free to prove me wrong. Yeah you can draw your own conclusion, as can I.

The fact is, that Officers have people actively trying to kill them. By gunfire, knives, or other means. On any given day, they can have people trying to kill them. I assume the vast majority of garbage collector deaths are from falling off the trucks, getting ran over by other vehicles, or even their own. I'm sure you will go on and on about how more dangerous being a garbage collector is. When asking any sane person which one has the higher chance of dying on duty, they'd say an Officer. In any event, it;s off topic and I am done talking about it.

The bottom line is, this dancer should know better than to get behind a NYC cop, who just had two brothers in uniform killed from behind. And the Officers should have handled it better than they did.
 

BoberFett

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You really hate facts, don't you Ackmed? Even with all of those people "actively" trying to kill them, it's still a safer job than many other jobs.

When asking any sane person which one has the higher chance of dying on duty, they'd say an Officer.

No, a sane person can understand facts. The facts are that a garbage collector has a higher chance of dying on the job, no matter how much stupidity and emotion you throw at the question.
 

Humpy

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The bottom line is, this dancer should know better than to get behind a NYC cop, who just had two brothers in uniform killed from behind.

Exactly how long will you give the NYC police justification to abuse their authority because they "just had two brothers in uniform killed from behind"? (The quoted part is such unbelievably transparent bullshit btw.)

Longer than just at the scene the day it actually happened? Longer than two weeks? A year? How about a dozen years like all the pussies who still go on about 9/11?
 

mizzou

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OP be like
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To be honest, both are assaults. Cop should NOT have pushed him, that was a personal assault and he should be reprimanded for that behavior. Just because you think someone is a dick doesn't give you the right to bully them. That looked like something out of junior high where the jocks bully the nerd.
 

CountZero

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So I, a stranger, come to your job and pop a few people. You're not going to be wary of the next stranger on your job?
Our police are fine, this is the South. I'm just surprised that there weren't problems after 2 of ours were basically ambushed.


So you think it's smart to fuck with guys with guns, tasers, pepper spray and possibly a target on their backs?

Go for it, John Holmes, go...for...it.

Tacoma 2009 a guy shot four cops in cold blood. Aside from the manhunt there was no massive freakout, no turning their backs on mayors, they got up, they did their job and they had the support of the community. The NY cops are doing pretty much the opposite.

It is tragic that it happened but it happens. Animosity towards cops didn't start in Ferguson.