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Cops lying under oath

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Reel

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Today, I went in to court for a speeding ticket. The cop showed up and the Judge proceeded to ask him the details of the case. The only thing that guy said for sure in the whole hearing were generic questions or what he wrote down about the traffic stop.

He could not have seen me until his radar alarm went off because there was a semi in the road blocking his lane and the only point where we had visual contact with each other was 1-2 seconds after he passed the semi and until I passed it. Of course, the guy denied the semi was in the road and claimed that he observed my vehicle approaching the vehicle ahead of me and pulling away from the vehicle behind me, then turned on the radar and clocked me. The whole ticket was riddled with holes and the guy was very rude during the hearing.

When I asked him a question about one of his screwups in writing the ticket, he raised his voice at me and retorted with a rude question and was about to yell at me but the Judge knew better and cut him off unfortunately.

I guess it was my mistake for thinking that the court system would be fair and my mistake for thinking that I could expect honesty from a police officer under oath. How can you say someone is guilty of a charge when the sole witness and accuser has nothing more to say than "he committed the crime"? I almost feel it is a shame I did not hire an attorney to rip this guy a new one because I do not have the training or talent to do so myself.
 
Wow, the cop actually showed up? I've showed up for 3 traffic tickets, and all 3 times the cop didn't show up, so they got thrown out. Too bad for you.
 
Originally posted by: Encryptic
Originally posted by: FoBoT
maybe you were speeding and should just pay the fine
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Maybe he had a valid case and got shafted by the system. Happens all the time.
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maybe he was speeding , i will go back and read the original post and try to see if any information regarding this is actually posted, most of the post was just b!tching about the cop and stuff

*EDIT** in reviewing the first post, i cannot find any information on what the posted speed limit was or what speed the vehicle in question was traveling, nor can i find if the accused speeder denied speeding under oath, too little information has been provided

we may need a court transcript
 
Originally posted by: cjchaps
So, what is the outcome? I take it you got screwed?
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Well, the Judge in Gainesville is very consistent. If you go in with a reasonable attempt at a case or reasonable story, she will typically reduce your fine and drop the points. My case was no exception. They are not very keen on letting go of money from a ticket apparently.

I wonder if there is any penalty for a cop for writing a bad ticket that would cause him to lie like that. Perhaps it was just an ego thing?
 
The majority of traffic cops are absolute pricks. If they weren't pricks, they wouldn't be working traffic.
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Originally posted by: FoBoT
Originally posted by: Encryptic
Originally posted by: FoBoT
maybe you were speeding and should just pay the fine
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Maybe he had a valid case and got shafted by the system. Happens all the time.
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maybe he was speeding , i will go back and read the original post and try to see if any information regarding this is actually posted, most of the post was just b!tching about the cop and stuff
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Who knows. It all boils down to "he said, they said" in the end. Maybe he was speeding and maybe he wasn't.
 
cops always lie on the stand...my friend got pulled over for drinking and driving and passed the sobriety test, but the cop said he was close to having had too much...

the test was to lean your head back, close your eyes and tell him when 30 seonds was up without counting out load.

anyway the cop thought he was close to being drunk so instead of writing a drinking ticket, he wrote him a ticket for running 3 red lights, which didnt happen....

well my friend showed up at court, with the people who were in the car with him to back his story up....

well the cop went on the stand and blatently lied about how he was speeding down sunset blvd and blasted through 3 red lights...

but the judge believed the cop over my friend and hsi witnesses
 
Originally posted by: MrDingleDangle
cops always lie on the stand...my friend got pulled over for drinking and driving and passed the sobriety test, but the cop said he was close to having had too much...

the test was to lean your head back, close your eyes and tell him when 30 seonds was up without counting out load.

anyway the cop thought he was close to being drunk so instead of writing a drinking ticket, he wrote him a ticket for running 3 red lights, which didnt happen....

well my friend showed up at court, with the people who were in the car with him to back his story up....

well the cop went on the stand and blatently lied about how he was speeding down sunset blvd and blasted through 3 red lights...

but the judge believed the cop over my friend and hsi witnesses
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If that happens ask for a trial by jury.

 
Originally posted by: MrDingleDangle
cops always lie on the stand...my friend got pulled over for drinking and driving and passed the sobriety test, but the cop said he was close to having had too much...

the test was to lean your head back, close your eyes and tell him when 30 seonds was up without counting out load.

anyway the cop thought he was close to being drunk so instead of writing a drinking ticket, he wrote him a ticket for running 3 red lights, which didnt happen....

well my friend showed up at court, with the people who were in the car with him to back his story up....

well the cop went on the stand and blatently lied about how he was speeding down sunset blvd and blasted through 3 red lights...

but the judge believed the cop over my friend and hsi witnesses
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Yeah, I would believe a car full of people who had been drinking over a police officer
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Originally posted by: ReelC00L
Originally posted by: cjchaps
So, what is the outcome? I take it you got screwed?
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Well, the Judge in Gainesville is very consistent. If you go in with a reasonable attempt at a case or reasonable story, she will typically reduce your fine and drop the points. My case was no exception. They are not very keen on letting go of money from a ticket apparently.

I wonder if there is any penalty for a cop for writing a bad ticket that would cause him to lie like that. Perhaps it was just an ego thing?
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if the ticket get's dismised then it doesn't go on his quota, can't have cops not making their quota of tickets.
 
Hmmm... I didn't quite understand the semi part.... was the semi parked?
If so, passing a semi in 2 seconds means... speeding. (show me a semi driving under the speed limit... they're paid by the mile, not the hour)
 
If you google a little you find some sites dealing with traffic tickets. Now-a-days all cops have a cam in their car. If you suspect that you have a case, or they don't it is your right to request all available evidence! That would include a copy of your video.

 
Originally posted by: DrPizza
Hmmm... I didn't quite understand the semi part.... was the semi parked?
If so, passing a semi in 2 seconds means... speeding. (show me a semi driving under the speed limit... they're paid by the mile, not the hour)
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There was a semi parked perpendicular to the road at the mall. It was not all the way off the road which made him have to swerve around it to get by at which point we first saw each other. Basically the sequence of events was:

He swerved around the semi (first visual contact).
We passed each other approximately 1 - 2 seconds later.
He made a U-turn shortly after and pulled me over.

However, this cop used his magic abilities in those 1- 2 seconds to not only judge my speed visually as compared to the car in front of me and behind me, but to turn on his radar, switch it between 2 modes and read the various speeds.
 
However, this cop used his magic abilities in those 1- 2 seconds to not only judge my speed visually as compared to the car in front of me and behind me, but to turn on his radar, switch it between 2 modes and read the various speeds.
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You said it.
 
Originally posted by: Karsten
If you google a little you find some sites dealing with traffic tickets. Now-a-days all cops have a cam in their car. If you suspect that you have a case, or they don't it is your right to request all available evidence! That would include a copy of your video.
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I do not believe they have cameras in their cars here. I wish they did, then I could have pushed the Judge for perjury.
 
Originally posted by: MrDingleDangle
the test was to lean your head back, close your eyes and tell him when 30 seonds was up without counting out load.
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wow what an impossible sobriety test. even if you're stone cold sober, you're gonna be nervous and your sense of time is not going to be very good. I saw Blue Thunder so I know this to be true!!

 
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