Cops have killed 400 people in 2015, one every 7 hours and 30 minutes

[mizzou]

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2420992&highlight=police

Math, reading comprehension, critical thinking, and statistics must be on the decline.

 

[mizzou]

It would be nice if every single police shooting nationally was logged/recorded with publicly viewable review and data in a single central database.

I think this is maybe the one definite thing that the DOJ/Supreme Court will find soon. Law Enforcement MUST be held responsible for giving accurate statistics of major crimes. It's lunacy that we have no uniform data collection of law enforcement use of force.

I suppose it's lunacy now, but obviously nobody cared about it up until a few years ago. Should be a real simple fix.

 

[mizzou]

http://www.newsday.com/news/nation/...ing-cause-of-death-for-teen-drivers-1.5226036

Cell phones are scarier then cops. Also, there is no justification at all to the deaths they cause.

Researchers at Cohen Children's Medical Center in New Hyde Park estimate more than 3,000 annual teen deaths nationwide from texting and 300,000 injuries.

This is called statistics fucking. You just pick numbers, based on fact or some type of legitimate research, and make them appear to be outrageous.

 

[halik]

So far we've had 700 people shot in Chicago and it's only April, but lets focus on the cops issue, because people on the internet do trendy things before doing stuff that would have actual impact.

"Blacks were victims of an estimated 805,000 nonfatal
violent crimes and of about 8,000 homicides in 2005. While
blacks accounted for 13% of the U.S. population in 2005,
they were victims in 15% of all nonfatal violent crimes and
nearly half of all homicides. "

ref:http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/bvvc.pdf

 

[Ichinisan]

Yup. They DEFINITELY shouldn't have shot those 2 in Texas the other day over those cartoons... No no no, shooting bhaaad!

Toolbag.

Yeah. OP counts that as cop murder against rampaging [innocent] terrorists [civilians].

 

[touchstone]

Lights away so the roaches come out to play.






Besides posting links, what else can you say to refute these numbers? Why should we trust a single word you say considering what all of us see police do on a daily basis?



Cops are out of control and they are murdering americans at 100x the rate of terrorists. Thats right! Cops are a bigger threat to the average american than terrorism



When will you swine learn? Clearly not until we've jailed or better yet executed a few of your criminal buddies.

 

[mizzou]

Lights away so the roaches come out to play.






Besides posting links, what else can you say to refute these numbers? Why should we trust a single word you say considering what all of us see police do on a daily basis?



Cops are out of control and they are murdering americans at 100x the rate of terrorists. Thats right! Cops are a bigger threat to the average american than terrorism



When will you swine learn? Clearly not until we've jailed or better yet executed a few of your criminal buddies.

How old are you?

 

[brycejones]

Lights away so the roaches come out to play.






Besides posting links, what else can you say to refute these numbers? Why should we trust a single word you say considering what all of us see police do on a daily basis?



Cops are out of control and they are murdering americans at 100x the rate of terrorists. Thats right! Cops are a bigger threat to the average american than terrorism



When will you swine learn? Clearly not until we've jailed or better yet executed a few of your criminal buddies.

What I find delightful about this post is that you refuse to address any of the concerns raised in this thread.

Let's get right to the point, in your mind is there ever an instance where the police are justified in taking a life? If there is then give us some examples. I've seen many of the posters who are calling these stats bogus express concerns about police overreach and the blue wall before and they aren't buying your stats.

 

[norseamd]

Here is what killedbypolice.net listed as the latest cop "killings". At 1 AM two guys were struck and killed by a police car. Their car broke down in the southbound lanes of the freeway and they were struck as they entered the left lane of the northbound lanes on foot. I'm sure the OP feels the cop probably sped up, pumping his fist while yelling 4 points!

He might as well have actually done that shit.

 

[touchstone]

What I find delightful about this post is that you refuse to address any of the concerns raised in this thread.

Let's get right to the point, in your mind is there ever an instance where the police are justified in taking a life? If there is then give us some examples. I've seen many of the posters who are calling these stats bogus express concerns about police overreach and the blue wall before and they aren't buying your stats.

Not buying my stats? They aren't my stats they are THE stats. What mizzou posted was a wholly unrelated and thoroughly debunked exhibition of Police produced propaganda.


I don't know how many are justified and neither do you cop shills so how about we have some trials to see if they are justified? Why are cops so afraid of cameras if what they are doing is ok? Why not let the justice system actually do its job and have some prosecutions by independent prosecutors?


You point a camera at a cop, and it's like pointing light at a roach. Except these roaches have guns. They do this because they know they are guilty, their whole existence is predicated on the exploitation of the american people. We are prodded and tazed and shot with rubber bullets, and we beg for more because America has been brainwashed by BS cop propaganda shows like COPS and CSI. In reality you are a bunch of bumbling criminal buffoons who are utterly petrified of society finding out what you actually do on the job.

 

[brycejones]

Not buying my stats? They aren't my stats they are THE stats. What mizzou posted was a wholly unrelated and thoroughly debunked exhibition of Police produced propaganda.


I don't know how many are justified and neither do you cop shills so how about we have some trials to see if they are justified? Why are cops so afraid of cameras if what they are doing is ok? Why not let the justice system actually do its job and have some prosecutions by independent prosecutors?


You point a camera at a cop, and it's like pointing light at a roach. Except these roaches have guns. They do this because they know they are guilty, their whole existence is predicated on the exploitation of the american people. We are prodded and tazed and shot with rubber bullets, and we beg for more because America has been brainwashed by BS cop propaganda shows like COPS and CSI. In reality you are a bunch of bumbling criminal buffoons who are utterly petrified of society finding out what you actually do on the job.

Are you done throwing a tantrum yet and ready to have a discussion?

 

[touchstone]

He might as well have actually done that shit.

Apparently if you're a cop, it's impossible to murder somebody with a car. All cop collisions happen because we, the citizens, are at fault for being in their way, right?



That is the actual position taken by law enforcement. If they do it, it can't be wrong.

 

[touchstone]

Are you done throwing a tantrum yet and ready to have a discussion?

Are you done not answering a single question I asked, and continuing to Neff and swear your way around?

 

[master_shake_]

Those numbers are low because not every department reports when a person is killed or shot by their cops.

this

cops don't call killing someone a homicide.

and they are not required to report them as such.

 

[brycejones]

Are you done not answering a single question I asked, and continuing to Neff and swear your way around?

Did I swear in this thread? I better check.

 

[brycejones]

Did I swear in this thread? I better check.

Nope I didn't. I believe I asked you a question first that so far you've refused to answer. I must say OP you are starting to have an entertaining meltdown. You might last a few more months before you completely flame out and get yourself banned.

 

[touchstone]

Nope I didn't. I believe I asked you a question first that so far you've refused to answer. I must say OP you are starting to have an entertaining meltdown.

My mistake, it's just that your regular words are so full of lies as to cause offense. I thought you were swearing you were so full of it.

 

[brycejones]

My mistake, it's just that your regular words are so full of lies as to cause offense. I thought you were swearing you were so full of it.

In your mind is there ever an instance where the police are justified in taking a life? If there is then give us some examples.

Instead of some rant about having trials answer the question. If it is a "no" then you're done. If it is a yes, just provide some simple examples.

 

[touchstone]

In your mind is there ever an instance where the police are justified in taking a life? If there is then give us some examples.

Instead of some rant about having trials answer the question. If it is a "no" then you're done. If it is a yes, just provide some simple examples.

EXAMPLE: THE HOLLYWOOD SHOOTOUT

2nd guy they still should've given medical aid, but shooting justified


Plenty of others, but since you only asked for one I will give you one and let you continue your neff-laced crusade to bore us all away from this thread and by extension the truth about cops.

 

[CZroe]

Lights away so the roaches come out to play.






Besides posting links, what else can you say to refute these numbers? Why should we trust a single word you say considering what all of us see police do on a daily basis?



Cops are out of control and they are murdering americans at 100x the rate of terrorists. Thats right! Cops are a bigger threat to the average american than terrorism



When will you swine learn? Clearly not until we've jailed or better yet executed a few of your criminal buddies.

It's not the numbers we refute, it's your words mischaracterising them as 100% "murder." I am positive that some are murders, but only a small percent. Those numbers include the art gallery terrorists and so many other justified killings. Killings != "murder." I can't believe we have to explain this to you.

 

[pcgeek11]

At this rate, if cop-murder was listed as an 'accidental cause of death' in statistics, it would rank as the number 6 cause of accidental death in the USA after choking and before all other firearm related accidents.

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr62/nvsr62_06.pdf

http://copcrisis.com/

Cop killing isn't always murder. Most of the time it is justified and lots are just accidents. That alone leaves the numbers pretty darn slim for your suspected "murders".

 

[brycejones]

EXAMPLE: THE HOLLYWOOD SHOOTOUT

2nd guy they still should've given medical aid, but shooting justified


Plenty of others, but since you only asked for one I will give you one and let you continue your neff-laced crusade to bore us all away from this thread and by extension the truth about cops.

Reading must be really difficult for you. I said provide some examples. That would be more than one.

But more importantly you do agree there are times when the police are justified in taking a life correct?

 

[pcgeek11]

In your mind is there ever an instance where the police are justified in taking a life? If there is then give us some examples.

Instead of some rant about having trials answer the question. If it is a "no" then you're done. If it is a yes, just provide some simple examples.

EXAMPLE: THE HOLLYWOOD SHOOTOUT

2nd guy they still should've given medical aid, but shooting justified


Plenty of others, but since you only asked for one I will give you one and let you continue your neff-laced crusade to bore us all away from this thread and by extension the truth about cops.

When did "examples" become one?

 

[touchstone]

Reading must be really difficult for you. I said provide some examples. That would be more than one.

But more importantly you do agree there are times when the police are justified in taking a life correct?

As officers of the law they should be held to a higher standard, and I believe that every last one who shoots or kills a person in the line of duty needs to be put on leave WITHOUT PAY (like any other employee you get back pay if you are found innocent) and investigated by in independent civilian oversight board. In every other profession where danger is present, an independent board oversees the disciplinary procedures (often the cops) and also the investigations. Except in law enforcement, because LEOs are guilty a good percentage of the time. I don't know what percentage of those are justified but it can't be all that high if every cop in america is clamoring for us to look the other way.



You are on the side that is against the numbers, but good luck arguing your position that 2+2=5

 

[brycejones]

Plenty of others, but since you only asked for one I will give you one and let you continue your neff-laced crusade to bore us all away from this thread and by extension the truth about cops.

Actually what's sad is I would love to get at the heart of what this issue is. It is you who just wants to run around screaming about how many people are being killed by cops without putting those numbers in any kind of context.