Cops beat up and make fun of a guy.

[Vette73]

Originally posted by: JLee

Originally posted by: Marlin1975

Originally posted by: JLee

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Much like any other job, don't fuck up and you won't end up on the front page of the news. Your reward for not fucking up is that you get to keep your job and your paycheck.

You come off as an arrogant prick. Maybe it's because I was at work all night and I should be sleeping.

Originally posted by: Marlin1975

And again, what does that have to do with this. Post another thread if you like but in this case its cops caught breaking someones rights. They have been removed and their charges were dropped when the video came out. This seems to be more and more common.

They have been placed on administrative leave pending an investigation - that's normal.

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: Genx87
Worst website ever.

That said is there more to the video? How is that police brutality? The guy wasnt complying with the cops orders to lie on the ground and was resisting arrest.

WTF-He was pulled over for having blue tint on his headlights.

He looked like he was afraid for his life and the guy wasn't attacking the officers. He was yelling for help for fuck sake. Those cops were being total dickbags.

In the original video he wasnt complying with the officers request. You do that anywhere and you will get that kind of treatment.

Watch the long video- you'll see him resist handcuffing, and repeatedly ignore orders to get on the ground. That's not how this game gets played.

Try again..

"Officers John Wynkoop and Scott Wilson say he punched them with a closed fist when they pulled him over on Greenbelt Road in College Park, Maryland.

However, the charges were quietly dropped Friday and the officers have been abruptly pulled from the street"

Show me in the video where he hit them with a closed fist? The cops lied and broke his rights. Even the chief of police after watching the video admited it.

Don't pull the "even the chief" card. Chiefs are politicians.

Show me in the video where he complies with handcuffing, where he doesn't pull away and where he gets on the ground when directed.

Look at the 14min mark. He was told to sit on the ground and did. He was then told to get up as he was being arrested. he started to stand up and then got slammed on the car. After that he was afraid as many would be and did try to get away.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: Marlin1975

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: Marlin1975

Originally posted by: Genx87
Worst website ever.

That said is there more to the video? How is that police brutality? The guy wasnt complying with the cops orders to lie on the ground and was resisting arrest.

That was a small part of the video. It started he was removed from the car as he would not sign the ticket. He sat on the ground and was then thrown on the car and was NOT resisting. The video you see in that link comes after he tried to just sit there as ordred and was still attacked. By the time this video started he was afraid for his life as you can hear him say help help they are trying to kill me.


Let me see if I can find the full video.

Yes please do find the rest of the video. What I saw there was clearly withint the bounds imo.

Watch the 14min mark when he was just sitting there and was ordered started to stand up as told but was thrown on the car.

I watched from about the 10 min mark. They were trying to get him to comply with them for nearly the entire time. I am failing to see the brutality here. They have a guy who refused to cooperate and then turned into resisting arrest. For about 9 of the 10 mins they were physically fighting him to get him under control. If the guy didnt resist from the beginning none of this would have happened.

 

[jlee]

Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Look at the 14min mark. He was told to sit on the ground and did. He was then told to get up as he was being arrested. he started to stand up and then got slammed on the car. After that he was afraid as many would be and did try to get away.

That gives him no legal right to resist.

 

[SacrosanctFiend]

Originally posted by: JLee
And in other news, seven officers died last month.

Maybe I should post a thread every time an officer dies in the line of duty.

Oh, and selective video FTL.

If you are, filter it to exclude auto accidents.

 

[jlee]

Originally posted by: SacrosanctFiend

Originally posted by: JLee
And in other news, seven officers died last month.

Maybe I should post a thread every time an officer dies in the line of duty.

Oh, and selective video FTL.

If you are, filter it to exclude auto accidents.

Then tell everyone else to filter stories like this, when the investigation hasn't been finished.

 

[SacrosanctFiend]

Originally posted by: JLee

Originally posted by: SacrosanctFiend

Originally posted by: JLee
And in other news, seven officers died last month.

Maybe I should post a thread every time an officer dies in the line of duty.

Oh, and selective video FTL.

If you are, filter it to exclude auto accidents.

Then tell everyone else to filter stories like this, when the investigation hasn't been finished.

This story has a video of the incident (I don't have an opinion on what I saw). No filter needed.

 

[40Hands]

Cops were in the wrong. They obviously were not handling the situation properly and they were suspended. It scares me how much some of you freaks defend cops every action. The video starts out with the one cop trying to cuff the guy. The other is smacking him with his baton. You're telling me that two cops cant bring him down to the ground and cuff him? Bullshit. Then the guy comes back on camera talking to them in a calm looking manner and gets hit in the face a few times with a baton. Hitting him in the head is wrong unless the guy posed a deadly threat. Granted this guy should have probably handled things a little better on his side but cops are supposed to be trained to deal with these situations without immediately resorting to beating this shit out of someone.

Making fun of his accent huh? These cops are either pussies, racists, or both. All this over some blue tinted lights, eh? Power tripping cops isn't a new thing, I've even seen it plenty of times in my area.

Edit: this was based on the original video posted. I'll look at the rest of it but unless the guy physically assaulted the police, my statement still stands. Not complying with orders is no excuse for what they did to him.

The charges against him were dropped for a reason. The cops were idiots.

 

[Tweak155]

Originally posted by: Marlin1975

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: Marlin1975

Originally posted by: Genx87
Worst website ever.

That said is there more to the video? How is that police brutality? The guy wasnt complying with the cops orders to lie on the ground and was resisting arrest.

That was a small part of the video. It started he was removed from the car as he would not sign the ticket. He sat on the ground and was then thrown on the car and was NOT resisting. The video you see in that link comes after he tried to just sit there as ordred and was still attacked. By the time this video started he was afraid for his life as you can hear him say help help they are trying to kill me.


Let me see if I can find the full video.

Yes please do find the rest of the video. What I saw there was clearly withint the bounds imo.

Watch the 14min mark when he was just sitting there and was ordered started to stand up as told but was thrown on the car.

Yeah and skip the part where the dude was being a prick from stage 1.

I'd say 11mins is a good place to start. Shows the guy in the car being a prick the ENTIRE time and he argued the cops every step of the way. He didn't want to do the easy step til the current step got worse.

Idiot guy ftl.

That being said, the cops were over bounds too and overreacted. Mainly the driver's fault though.

 

[jlee]

Originally posted by: 40Hands
Cops were in the wrong. They obviously were not handling the situation properly and they were suspended. It scares me how much some of you freaks defend cops every action. The video starts out with the one cop trying to cuff the guy. The other is smacking him with his baton. You're telling me that two cops cant bring him down to the ground and cuff him? Bullshit. Then the guy comes back on camera talking to them in a calm looking manner and gets hit in the face a few times with a baton. Hitting him in the head is wrong unless the guy posed a deadly threat. Granted this guy should have probably handled things a little better on his side but cops are supposed to be trained to deal with these situations without immediately resorting to beating this shit out of someone.

Making fun of his accent huh? These cops are either pussies, racists, or both. All this over some blue tinted lights, eh? Power tripping cops isn't a new thing, I've even seen it plenty of times in my area.

Nice call, Mr. Expert- the investigation hasn't been finished, the video quality is crappy, and you already know exactly what happened!

 

[Vette73]

Originally posted by: JLee

Originally posted by: 40Hands
Cops were in the wrong. They obviously were not handling the situation properly and they were suspended. It scares me how much some of you freaks defend cops every action. The video starts out with the one cop trying to cuff the guy. The other is smacking him with his baton. You're telling me that two cops cant bring him down to the ground and cuff him? Bullshit. Then the guy comes back on camera talking to them in a calm looking manner and gets hit in the face a few times with a baton. Hitting him in the head is wrong unless the guy posed a deadly threat. Granted this guy should have probably handled things a little better on his side but cops are supposed to be trained to deal with these situations without immediately resorting to beating this shit out of someone.

Making fun of his accent huh? These cops are either pussies, racists, or both. All this over some blue tinted lights, eh? Power tripping cops isn't a new thing, I've even seen it plenty of times in my area.

Nice call, Mr. Expert- the investigation hasn't been finished, the video quality is crappy, and you already know exactly what happened!

Are you blind. How is the video quality "crappy". I can see the cops and person perfect. I can hear what is said in and out of the car.

 

[AnonymouseUser]

They were definitely out of line for mocking his accent, otherwise I don't see anything wrong with what they did. The dipshit should have been jailed immediately just for stopping where he did.

 

[rivan]

Originally posted by: Marlin1975

Originally posted by: rivan

Originally posted by: JLee
And in other news, seven officers died last month.

Maybe I should post a thread every time an officer dies in the line of duty.

I think you should. Maybe it'd give the cop haters around here a little perspective they often appear to lack.

So complaining about cops abusing their power = cop hater now.

Maybe I unfairly put you in that group. Whether you're part of it or not, there's a contingent of them here.

As for this video, now that I've seen the full length one, the officers appear to have gone well overboard and should be disciplined for their actions. Based on the discussion in the car, the one seems like he might have a history - referring to the 'hug-a-bug'? classes his old boss repeatedly sent him to.

I tend to have some sympathy for the position cops are put in every day - it's often a no-win position. It's your job to seek out and deal with the douchebags of society, where at any point one of those douchebags might decide to try to kill you. As a bonus you get to deal with department and city politics, and work shitty schedules until you get a high level of seniority.

Of course, none of that excuses actions like I just saw, where the cop off-camera goes ballistic on the guy when he's sitting down.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: Marlin1975

Originally posted by: Genx87
Worst website ever.

That said is there more to the video? How is that police brutality? The guy wasnt complying with the cops orders to lie on the ground and was resisting arrest.

That was a small part of the video. It started he was removed from the car as he would not sign the ticket. He sat on the ground and was then thrown on the car and was NOT resisting. The video you see in that link comes after he tried to just sit there as ordred and was still attacked. By the time this video started he was afraid for his life as you can hear him say help help they are trying to kill me.


Let me see if I can find the full video.

WTF are you watching? He was resisting even before they got him out of the car, and he resisted and ignored orders the entire time up until he sat on the ground. It's not clear why the one cop flipped out and yelled at him to get against the car after he sat down. It looked like he started resisting again after that, at least initially. I think the officers crossed the line when they started hitting him in the head with their batons; right about then the page auto-refreshed for the second time and I didn't feel like trying to find that spot again, so I haven't watched anything past that.

I think the cops crossed the line. I think the guy was an idiot. Both of which are common in these incidents.

 

[moshquerade]

We need a BAD COPS forum.

 

[jlee]

Originally posted by: moshquerade
We need a BAD COPS forum.

Subset of P&N.

Motion to create?

 

[rivan]

Originally posted by: 40Hands
Cops were in the wrong. They obviously were not handling the situation properly and they were suspended. It scares me how much some of you freaks defend cops every action. The video starts out with the one cop trying to cuff the guy. The other is smacking him with his baton. You're telling me that two cops cant bring him down to the ground and cuff him? Bullshit. Then the guy comes back on camera talking to them in a calm looking manner and gets hit in the face a few times with a baton. Hitting him in the head is wrong unless the guy posed a deadly threat. Granted this guy should have probably handled things a little better on his side but cops are supposed to be trained to deal with these situations without immediately resorting to beating this shit out of someone.

Making fun of his accent huh? These cops are either pussies, racists, or both. All this over some blue tinted lights, eh? Power tripping cops isn't a new thing, I've even seen it plenty of times in my area.

As with far too many people, you're seeing what you want to see. Watch the full fucking length video and tell me it's all over blue lights.

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: JLee

Originally posted by: moshquerade
We need a BAD COPS forum.

Subset of P&N.

Motion to create?

Motion to carry the motion. :thumbsup:

 

[rivan]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: JLee

Originally posted by: moshquerade
We need a BAD COPS forum.

Subset of P&N.

Motion to create?

Motion to carry the motion. :thumbsup:

How's this go? Do I second it?

I'd love that - that way, I could filter that forum entirely.

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: rivan

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: JLee

Originally posted by: moshquerade
We need a BAD COPS forum.

Subset of P&N.

Motion to create?

Motion to carry the motion. :thumbsup:

How's this go? Do I second it?

I'd love that - that way, I could filter that forum entirely.

you'd be third-ing it :thumbsup:

 

[Turin39789]

I missed the part where they guy punched them with a closed fist.


why didn't the cop just care less. He kept saying he could.

 

[Arkaign]

A couple of cockbag cops kicking the crap out of idiot? I'm more upset at the cops for smearing the image of the 99% of cops who do a good job and would never do something like this.

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: Arkaign
A couple of cockbag cops kicking the crap out of idiot? I'm more upset at the cops for smearing the image of the 99% of cops who do a good job and would never do something like this.

QFT

 

[40Hands]

Originally posted by: rivan

Originally posted by: 40Hands
Cops were in the wrong. They obviously were not handling the situation properly and they were suspended. It scares me how much some of you freaks defend cops every action. The video starts out with the one cop trying to cuff the guy. The other is smacking him with his baton. You're telling me that two cops cant bring him down to the ground and cuff him? Bullshit. Then the guy comes back on camera talking to them in a calm looking manner and gets hit in the face a few times with a baton. Hitting him in the head is wrong unless the guy posed a deadly threat. Granted this guy should have probably handled things a little better on his side but cops are supposed to be trained to deal with these situations without immediately resorting to beating this shit out of someone.

Making fun of his accent huh? These cops are either pussies, racists, or both. All this over some blue tinted lights, eh? Power tripping cops isn't a new thing, I've even seen it plenty of times in my area.

As with far too many people, you're seeing what you want to see. Watch the full fucking length video and tell me it's all over blue lights.

I meant that he was originally pulled over for that. The site is too slow to watch the full video right now. I would like to know what made them have the guy get out of his car in the first place. Shouldn't it just be a fine?

Also I put an edit at the end of my original post.

 

[Tweak155]

Originally posted by: 40Hands

Originally posted by: rivan

Originally posted by: 40Hands
Cops were in the wrong. They obviously were not handling the situation properly and they were suspended. It scares me how much some of you freaks defend cops every action. The video starts out with the one cop trying to cuff the guy. The other is smacking him with his baton. You're telling me that two cops cant bring him down to the ground and cuff him? Bullshit. Then the guy comes back on camera talking to them in a calm looking manner and gets hit in the face a few times with a baton. Hitting him in the head is wrong unless the guy posed a deadly threat. Granted this guy should have probably handled things a little better on his side but cops are supposed to be trained to deal with these situations without immediately resorting to beating this shit out of someone.

Making fun of his accent huh? These cops are either pussies, racists, or both. All this over some blue tinted lights, eh? Power tripping cops isn't a new thing, I've even seen it plenty of times in my area.

As with far too many people, you're seeing what you want to see. Watch the full fucking length video and tell me it's all over blue lights.

I meant that he was originally pulled over for that. The site is too slow to watch the full video right now. I would like to know what made them have the guy get out of his car in the first place. Shouldn't it just be a fine?

Guy sounded like he was arguing and didn't want to pay it and told the officers they were wrong. Dunno what "requirements" there are to order someone out of their car though.

 

[jlee]

Originally posted by: Tweak155

Originally posted by: 40Hands

Originally posted by: rivan

Originally posted by: 40Hands
Cops were in the wrong. They obviously were not handling the situation properly and they were suspended. It scares me how much some of you freaks defend cops every action. The video starts out with the one cop trying to cuff the guy. The other is smacking him with his baton. You're telling me that two cops cant bring him down to the ground and cuff him? Bullshit. Then the guy comes back on camera talking to them in a calm looking manner and gets hit in the face a few times with a baton. Hitting him in the head is wrong unless the guy posed a deadly threat. Granted this guy should have probably handled things a little better on his side but cops are supposed to be trained to deal with these situations without immediately resorting to beating this shit out of someone.

Making fun of his accent huh? These cops are either pussies, racists, or both. All this over some blue tinted lights, eh? Power tripping cops isn't a new thing, I've even seen it plenty of times in my area.

As with far too many people, you're seeing what you want to see. Watch the full fucking length video and tell me it's all over blue lights.

I meant that he was originally pulled over for that. The site is too slow to watch the full video right now. I would like to know what made them have the guy get out of his car in the first place. Shouldn't it just be a fine?

Guy sounded like he was arguing and didn't want to pay it and told the officers they were wrong. Dunno what "requirements" there are to order someone out of their car though.

(NH law) - a custodial arrest may be made for any violation...so if someone is told to get out of the car, they're getting out of the car.