Cops are a JOKE!

[HAL9000]

At one time it was called fascism. You could be randomly stopped and questioned for no reason at all. They could search through your pockets, your purse, your motor carriage, etc. Occasionally they would check if houses contained jews in the attic.

Hmm The UK = Nazi Germany now?

 

[SphinxnihpS]

At one time it was called fascism. You could be randomly stopped and questioned for no reason at all. They could search through your pockets, your purse, your motor carriage, etc. Occasionally they would check if houses contained jews in the attic.

I have a feeling sucktard didn't do too well in History.

 

[x-alki]

What the fuck does the World Boxing Council have to do with hellers dope smoking?

 

[HAL9000]

What the fuck does the World Boxing Council have to do with hellers dope smoking?

they're evil, they barred muhammed ali.

 

[ShawnD1]

Hmm The UK = Nazi Germany now?

Actually it's far worse. The Nazis had at least some respect for private property. A few weeks ago we had a thread where some Italian illegal immigrants stole a man's house in London and there wasn't a damn thing the police did about it.

Back in places that still believe in the right to private ownership (ie Texas), a home owner can forcefully remove unwelcome people. That includes shooting burglars and home invaders.

 

[SphinxnihpS]

Hmm The UK = Nazi Germany now?

Why don't you read up on how the NAZIs got started, before you summarily dismiss someone's argument. In fact a good background in general History would clearly show you the road the UK is headed down. It's the road most travelled for nations.

 

[SaDiZTiKStyLeZ]

That's what happens when you listen to shitty pop music.

 

[HAL9000]

Actually it's far worse. The Nazis had at least some respect for private property. A few weeks ago we had a thread where some Italian illegal immigrants stole a man's house in London and there wasn't a damn thing the police did about it.

Back in places that still believe in the right to private ownership (ie Texas), a home owner can forcefully remove unwelcome people. That includes shooting burglars and home invaders.

Yeah squatters rights suck, Don't really understand that. That's definately not making us worse than nazi germany though, according to recent statistics there are about 15,000 squatters in the UK (mostly in abandoned office buildings) However I would take a few squatters any day over living in texas where there are just under 10,000 per 100,000 gun owners.

Why don't you read up on how the NAZIs got started, before you summarily dismiss someone's argument. In fact a good background in general History would clearly show you the road the UK is headed down. It's the road most travelled for nations.

Errrm no it's not, our extremists are hidden away, like the BNP, you've got the up front, like the christian gun nuts.

In any event, I'm going to sleep now, so I'll leave you with the following bullet points:

- the OP got what he deserved, don't take drugs if you don't like the consequences.
- If your car smells like drugs it should be searched. Regardless of whether you have any or not, if you do you should be arrested.
- the UK != Nazi Germany
- I'd rather live with squatters in my country than with 10% of my county carrying guns.

G'night.

 

[Eli]

Gee, not surprising the thread went this way... I don't doubt what he says is true.

You all saying he got what he deserved are idiots, and I hope YOU get pulled over and unreasonably searched.

It's a little fucked up that a cop can say "It smells like weed in your car", and you have no recourse but to submit to them, aka wait for a K9 unit. Such an unfathomably large crock of shit.

Maybe I'm just a little too trusting of Heller, or maybe I just don't like The Power in Blue all that much.. take your pick, I guess.

 

[Lifted]

my music was talking about selliing cocaine

my 2 12's in my trunk

the car does not smell like weed, it smells like ciggs and mens cologne.

2 questions:

How old are you?

Do you ever want to get laid?

 

[EMPshockwave82]

So, you had the radio on when the officer pulled you over and came up to your window?

You deserved the search.

Police officer pulls you over: Keys out of ignition, radio off, hands on steering wheel, and don't be an asshole.

Sorry, it's 10 degrees outside. I'm not turning off my car. I will pull off to a side road and turn my flashers on though.

 

[erikistired]

it's amazing how often you get in trouble with the cops. i'm going to go out on a limb and say you are the joke.

Gee, not surprising the thread went this way... I don't doubt what he says is true.

You all saying he got what he deserved are idiots, and I hope YOU get pulled over and unreasonably searched.

It's a little fucked up that a cop can say "It smells like weed in your car", and you have no recourse but to submit to them, aka wait for a K9 unit. Such an unfathomably large crock of shit.

Maybe I'm just a little too trusting of Heller, or maybe I just don't like The Power in Blue all that much.. take your pick, I guess.

errr, it's heller. we all know he smokes weed. he's admitted it. why wouldn't his car smell like weed? just because his dumb ass can't smell it doesn't mean normal people can't.

 

[JS80]

Sounds like that cop has great instincts.

 

[ShawnD1]

it's amazing how often you get in trouble with the cops. i'm going to go out on a limb and say you are the joke.

I want him to post a picture of his car. $5 says it has tinted windows all around and looks just like a drug car.

 

[Kanalua]

You become part of the problem when you agreed to prosecute someone based on a clearly faulty law. Poor you really.

It's a democratic republic, if the people didn't like the law (and it's "clearly" not violating the Fed or State constitution), then the people can change the law and/or law makers.

The older I get, the more I like the law and see its merit. I guess that's what comes with maturity.

And get off my lawn.

 

[EMPshockwave82]

Motto for the story. Don't smoke drugs (particularly in your car) let the cops search your car when they ask.

Never, Never, Never, Never, Never let the cops search your car. Make them illegally search your car or get a search warrant. Even if you "KNOW" there is nothing illegal in your car.

This is is the most ignorant comment I have read on this site.

 

[HAL9000]

Never, Never, Never, Never, Never let the cops search your car. Make them illegally search your car or get a search warrant. Even if you "KNOW" there is nothing illegal in your car.

This is is the most ignorant comment I have read on this site.

In the UK they have the right to.... If there's nothing in your car whats the problem?!

 

[Eli]

If I can do whatever I want without breaking the law then I'm free. If however I'm free to do whatever I want law be damned, that's not freedom it's chaos. Idiot.

Yeah squatters rights suck, Don't really understand that. That's definately not making us worse than nazi germany though, according to recent statistics there are about 15,000 squatters in the UK (mostly in abandoned office buildings) However I would take a few squatters any day over living in texas where there are just under 10,000 per 100,000 gun owners.

lol.

Look, even you're smart enough to see the problem with this. In nearly the same breath, you go from "The law is the law, and that's that!" to "Yeah, this law does kinda suck. I don't really understand it.".

So, you're telling me you can't see the problem with "the law is the law, no questions asked"? You can't see the problem with, "Well if you aren't doing anything wrong then you don't have anything to hide!"? That goes against the very spirit of "Innocent until proven guilty". That is "guilty until proven innocent".

For the most part, laws are arbitrary. Yes, many if not most of them serve a purpose and contribute to the greater good. However, laws are most certainly capable of being wrong or bad.

As an example, do you drink alcohol or smoke cigarettes? Even if you don't, I'm sure you know many people that do. Here in the US, alcohol was illegal for a short time. According to you, the moment it became illegal, you would not take another sip - even if it was your favorite thing to do after a long day's work. Then, 13 years later, on the day it was repealed.. you would pour yourself a nice scotch on the rocks?

You can't see the arbitrary, meaningless absurdity in that? Most people can. That's why the mob became rich and flourished during alcohol prohibition. People didn't care. As they shouldn't have. My point is that laws are dynamic and always changing. To have a law be all powerful, with no accountability, no means to have it repealed or modified.. That is very, very dangerous.

Overall, it's really not much different than speeding. It's against the law, people still do it. They take their chances.

Let's face it, doing drugs is fun. Alcohol, caffeine, nicotine, marijuana, cocaine.. The human species very much enjoys altering its state of consciousness, for better or for worse. It doesn't matter to most people that some drugs are more or less arbitrarily illegal, while some are not. It's just people being people. It's actually a pretty logical conclusion; obviously the one that I've come to and I'm a logic driven person.

 

[DrPizza]

The police should have the right to do all of that if they've got legitimate reason. That's how things get done. I love how american's think they live in the land of the free, where people should be able to wander around with a gun or spew hate speech like the WBC and it's a good thing?! Ha. I say take away the guns, take away the hate speech and then let people be free. It works.

See, in the U.S., we have this balance of powers so that no one branch is all powerful. If the policeman believes he has reasonable cause to search your car, he has to contact a judge who will then decide whether or not the officer will be allowed to search it. While in the vast, vast majority of cases, the judge will side with the police officer, this one little step is the difference between the police to have carte blanche to do whatever they want, and some level of accountability.

 

[HAL9000]

lol.

Look, even you're smart enough to see the problem with this. In nearly the same breath, you go from "The law is the law, and that's that!" to "Yeah, this law does kinda suck. I don't really understand it.".

So, you're telling me you can't see the problem with "the law is the law, no questions asked"? You can't see the problem with, "Well if you aren't doing anything wrong then you don't have anything to hide!"?

For the most part, laws are arbitrary. Yes, many if not most of them serve a purpose and contribute to the greater good. However, laws are most certainly capable of being wrong or bad.

As an example, do you drink alcohol or smoke cigarettes? Even if you don't, I'm sure you know many people that do. Here in the US, alcohol was illegal for a short time. According to you, the moment it became illegal, you would not take another sip - even if it was your favorite thing to do after a long day's work. Then, 13 years later, on the day it was repealed.. you would pour yourself a nice scotch on the rocks?

You can't see the arbitrary, meaningless absurdity in that? Most people can. That's why the mob became rich and flourished during alcohol prohibition. People didn't care. As they shouldn't have.

It's really not much different than speeding. It's against the law, people still do it. They take their chances.

Let's face it, doing drugs is fun. Alcohol, caffeine, nicotine, marijuana, cocaine.. The human species very much enjoys altering its state of consciousness, for better or for worse. It doesn't matter to most people that some drugs are more or less arbitrarily illegal, while some are not. That's just people being people. It's actually a pretty logical conclusion; obviously the one that I've come to and I'm a logic driven person.

In all honesty you make a very valid and persuasive argument and I'm not sure I can argue against it, other than to say that to me alchohol isn't really a problem because it is legal, and because (over here) you can drink it from age 2, so people are kind of used to its effects and used to the results, whereas that's not so with drugs, people experiment and a lot of problems arise as a result. i've actually started a thread in in P&N on my opinion that we should not only legalise drugs but also make them free on the NHS, however with all that being said. The law is the law you break it you face the consequences, yes there are unjust laws, with Squatters rights being a perfect example, but you can't just say "oh well I think it's ok" and break it, that's what sociopaths do, with murder. While a law is in place if you break it you deserve to do deal with the consequences. It's the way the world works, if you don't like a law or you believe it is unjust, thats understandable and you should work to get it changed or move to somewhere were the law doesn't apply, but it's part of the social contract that everyone should abide by the law.

Without law there would be chaos.

"they take their chances" is just my point, if you want to break the law you know the risks involved, then you deserve to (if caught) deal with the consequences.

 

[HAL9000]

See, in the U.S., we have this balance of powers so that no one branch is all powerful. If the policeman believes he has reasonable cause to search your car, he has to contact a judge who will then decide whether or not the officer will be allowed to search it. While in the vast, vast majority of cases, the judge will side with the police officer, this one little step is the difference between the police to have carte blanche to do whatever they want, and some level of accountability.

And that's fair enough, but in the UK it's more after the fact with searching cars, if you believe that some problem arose from searching cars you can appeal to a judge, but seeing as the only time it would be an issue for you is when you are breaking the law I don't see the problem?

 

[MarkXIX]

HAHA! How's it feel to be a stereotype you dumb fuck?! That's exactly what you are, a stereotype.

Also, how exactly did you smoke pot in your car and then not operate it under the influence afterward? Do you still live at your mom's or gram's house and can't smoke in the house so you go out to the car? You're a fucking loser all around, pathetic.

 

[Bateluer]

it smells like ciggs and mens cologne.

Cologne+anything smells foul regardless. For that matter, plain cologne does too.

Sounds like the cop over reacted though.

 

[darkswordsman17]

Gee, not surprising the thread went this way... I don't doubt what he says is true.

You all saying he got what he deserved are idiots, and I hope YOU get pulled over and unreasonably searched.

It's a little fucked up that a cop can say "It smells like weed in your car", and you have no recourse but to submit to them, aka wait for a K9 unit. Such an unfathomably large crock of shit.

Maybe I'm just a little too trusting of Heller, or maybe I just don't like The Power in Blue all that much.. take your pick, I guess.

Even if the story is true as he told it, what is unreasonable here? They had a legitimate reason to pull him over, and then had a legitimate reason to want to search the car. The OP has had run-ins with police over pot before.

That's completely ignoring that the OP is a liar and a dumbfuck, which I'm certain also played a role in this situation or at minimum his portrayal of events. Much like how he probably can't tell that his car reeked of pot, he can't tell that he's being a dumbfuck to the cop. To him, it's normal, but to other people he stands out as a dumbfuck.

lol.

Look, even you're smart enough to see the problem with this. In nearly the same breath, you go from "The law is the law, and that's that!" to "Yeah, this law does kinda suck. I don't really understand it.".

So, you're telling me you can't see the problem with "the law is the law, no questions asked"? You can't see the problem with, "Well if you aren't doing anything wrong then you don't have anything to hide!"?

For the most part, laws are arbitrary. Yes, many if not most of them serve a purpose and contribute to the greater good. However, laws are most certainly capable of being wrong or bad.

As an example, do you drink alcohol or smoke cigarettes? Even if you don't, I'm sure you know many people that do. Here in the US, alcohol was illegal for a short time. According to you, the moment it became illegal, you would not take another sip - even if it was your favorite thing to do after a long day's work. Then, 13 years later, on the day it was repealed.. you would pour yourself a nice scotch on the rocks?

You can't see the arbitrary, meaningless absurdity in that? Most people can. That's why the mob became rich and flourished during alcohol prohibition. People didn't care. As they shouldn't have.

It's really not much different than speeding. It's against the law, people still do it. They take their chances.

Let's face it, doing drugs is fun. Alcohol, caffeine, nicotine, marijuana, cocaine.. The human species very much enjoys altering its state of consciousness, for better or for worse. It doesn't matter to most people that some drugs are more or less arbitrarily illegal, while some are not. That's just people being people. It's actually a pretty logical conclusion; obviously the one that I've come to and I'm a logic driven person.

What the does any of that have to do with this?

On a quick note about your off tangent about drugs. You do know that its fuckheads like the OP that causes the demonization of so much? They'd be fuckheads with or without the drugs, but because they use drugs, it causes other people to blame them being fuckheads on the drugs instead of them just being fuckheads.

 

[Venix]

Despite what this necktard ignoramus is spewing, people in the UK do have some rights against unreasonable searches, though still nothing like those afforded to citizens in countries with real freedom. Wikipedia has a decent primer on it.

Notice how the current restrictions against warrantless searches were enacted because--surprise!--police were routinely abusing their power under the older, less restrictive laws.