Copper spacer & Arctic Silver?

[DanishGuy]

I just ordered a copper spacer and some Arctic Silver compound for my T-bird, and I was wondering...

When I recieve the stuff, do I remove the rubber-thingies with acetone or what?

Do I apply some of the arctic silver between the spacer and CPU?
(I know that I need to apply some between the CPU & HSF)
And what about the spacer/HSF connection, Arctic Silver again??

 

[JustStarting]

depends if your spacer has holes for the feet or not. get a spacer w/ the holes- much nicer than without.

 

[Poof]

When you say "rubber thingies" do you mean the 4 little pads on the T-bird? If so, they should stay there to allow you to be able to apply the pressure necessary for the HS to contact the T-bird's core.

Also, only apply the paste on the core portion. It shouldn't go anywhere else. Those spacers are supposed to help keep the HS leveled when you lock it on the socket.

Since most of the heat will be coming from the CPU's core rather than from the CPU's silicon substrate that surrounds the core, then any supposed heat transfer between the substrate and spacer will be very small....

 

[DanishGuy]

Oooops, I just saw the picture of the spacer again, and it has holes for the pads, sorry!

 

[Felonious]

Get this one, it's machined www.cpufx.com

 

[DanishGuy]

That is actually the same picture as my retailer used, so I guess it's the same spacer....

 

[bluesky]

The spacer looks nice and don't have to remove the rubber pads.
But when I tried to checkout in cpufx.com, I'm getting security error messages on every pages.
Is this dealer is good?
What's the shipping cost for 1 spacer?
Thanks.

 

[LuNoTiCK]

Is the copper spacer from nerdsbyte a good one? I just bought it and am wondering if it will work good

 

[lenjack]

AMD and independent tests show copper spacer to be useless, in many instances,increasing CPU temp

 

[Mikewarrior2]

Its because of this:

Shim absorbs heat from heatsink

Ceramic PCB on CPU absorbs heat from Shim.



Mike

 

[WindBoy2000]

you dont really need the shim, i think the pads work fine.

 

[BradS]

It took six posts before someone finally said spacers are useless. Put that money towards a better HSF.

 

[FriedRiceBob]

so in theory, wouldn't the spacer puting heat into the ceramic actually make the thermistor readings from under the socket more accurate? ooooh, a thought provoking question...

 

[Mikewarrior2]

its not enough heat to change the reading one way or the other. The PCB is anti-heat. It doesn't let heat pass through it, so any extra heat read by the socket-thermistor will probably be very negligble, ie non-readable. Likewise is any chance of major cooling gain or loss with the shim, but it would be an incorrect assumption to think that buying the shim=better cpu cooling.


Mike

 

[CleveYank]

I noticed these shims and I thought copper.....what a wonderful heat conductor. And I thought......well if this was what you were supposed to put with your CPU......wouldn't the damn engineers who designed the thing sell it with the CPU?

Sometimes for the persuit of tinkering and tinkering alone you waste time, money and energy. Fans are one thing since we all know that heat kills, but this is a bit much in my little opinion.

oh well, I have too many other hobbies, there just isn't time to be a part-time CPU engineer and redesign something that shouldn't be fiddled with. Hey ya know? I have never heard of someone accidently cooking their CPU by just pluggin it into the socket the way the good engineer intended as much as I have with you overclockin types.

Pooof and smoke and then the whining begins LOL.

Hmmm was that a flame or was that just sarcasm? Oh well too late, it's out there now.

 

[joeryu]

i dont think people buy spacers to get better temps (if they do they are indeed wrong) but they buy them to protect the cores of their $200+ processor cores. i tell ya, i thought it was useless but after trying out a FOP38, oh man that thing is a b*tch to install and take off, so much force, that i got a new cooler and spacer while at it, and i can now install hsf's with ease without the fear of doing something wrong.

 

[BradS]

I think these have been marketed towards heat removal. And because of this clever marketing, most people buy in an effort to lower their cpu temperature. This is why you see them being made out of copper.

 

[DanishGuy]

Hmmm, I think BradS's opinion is true...

BUT I bought it to protect my core from cracking when attaching the HSF (Silverado 50)

So I guess it would be better to produce a spacer of some insulating material like teflon?!?!

Maybe just plain plastic.... (Hence the core temp shouldn't rise above ~60 °C)

Link to Silverado 50 HSF (Danish website)