Cop shoots 14yo to death after bus stop fight

[ShawnD1]

I'm sorry, but you're an idiot.

I am 6 feet tall and my 13 year old cousin is just as tall as I am. Don't give me that bullshit about him being a kid, a 14 year old can hold a gun or knife or other deadly object just like anyone else.

My question is why he felt the need to use deadly force, which the story doesn't say.

There was an episode of malcom in the middle about this. His dad punches this big fat guy who looks like the bully's dad. It was actually some 16 year old kid

 

[SandEagle]

This happened 10 months ago, Nov. 2010. OP makes it sound that it just happened today/early this week.

Why was he still on the force? School police officer who shot dead 14-year-old unarmed pupil had been suspended four times

Officer still in Police force - in administration role
Daniel Alvarado had a history of not obeying orders
He had been reprimand 12 times since 2006

Funeral for Derek Lopez, 14 - Nov 14, 2010 with 12 pictures.

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9/11 happened 10 years ago and we still discuss it to understand why and what can be done to prevent similar incidents moving forward. your argument is weak. this is back in news this week as parents are suing. cop is still on the job. how many of you have heard about this prior to my post?

 

[GoodRevrnd]

Why the fuck does everything have to be a civil rights issue?
At worst this is a basic criminal manslaughter charge. People are abusing civil rights laws way too much in this country. They were made to level the playing field, not fill your wallet.

A statute known as Section 1983 is the primary civil rights law victims of police misconduct rely upon. This law was originally passed as part of the Civil Rights Act of 1871, which was intended to curb oppressive conduct by government and private individuals participating in vigilante groups, such as the Ku Klux Klan. It is now called Section 1983 because that is where the law has been published, within Title 42, of the United States Code. Section 1983 makes it unlawful for anyone acting under the authority of state law to deprive another person of his or her rights under the Constitution or federal law. The most common claims brought against police officers are false arrest (or false imprisonment), malicious prosecution, and use of excessive or unreasonable force.

http://public.findlaw.com/civil-rights/more-civil-rights-topics/police-misconduct-rights.html

I recall seeing some thing once where a cop was acquitted of murder and new evidence afterward greatly strengthened the case. They secured a conviction using this law.

 

[JackBurton]

And therefore deserves to die.

Not saying he deserves to die, but let's not paint the picture that some crazy cop hunted down and killed some innocent kid. A 14 yr old will kill just as easily as an adult. And this "kid" had all the makings of a future inmate. Let's be honest, a bad cop most like prevented future crimes here so I'm really not going to get all up in arms.

You know how we can prevent "tragedies" like this in the future? Be a responsible parent and quit raising fuck ups.

 

[rakzum]

Ron paul 2048

 

[rasczak]

The only two people who know the truth about what happened are said cop and dead kid. My guess is cop tried to pedo said kid in woodshed but was refused.

 

[alkemyst]

First, kid ran. If his mom told him you don't run from cops then that would have resulted in her kid living.

Second, she knew he was hiding from cops, if she went to the police first; her kid would be living.

Instead, she leveraged him in a lawsuit.

 

[SKORPI0]

. How many of you have heard about this prior to my post?

Apparently not you too, you could have mentioned that it happened Nov 2010 but chose not to. :thumbsdown::thumbsdown::thumbsdown::thumbsdown::thumbsdown:

Tragic that it happened, but the kid "put himself" into that situation. Bad behavior in his part and cop did not have to shoot him dead. I concur with the lawsuit, cop should have been terminated long time before this happened. I wonder why the school district did not do so at that time.

 

[Red Squirrel]

I'm sorry, but you're an idiot.

I am 6 feet tall and I have a 13 year old cousin who is just as tall as I am. Don't spout that bullshit about him being a kid, a 14 year old can hold a gun or knife or other deadly object just like anyone else.

My question is why he felt the need to use deadly force, which the story doesn't say.

One requirement of being a cop is to be able to be physically adept... especially against some kid. If the kid had been holding a gun and threatening to kill someone it's another story, but he was running away, scared. At this point the cop should have ran and caught up to him, and cuffed him. No need to use much force, especially not deadly force. At very most, a taser, but even that would be too far in this situation.

I still find it hilarious that cops are involved over a school fight. Back when I was in school, which is not that long ago, the result of a school fight was whoever lost was walking home with a black eye and possibly a nose bleed and whoever won, well, won. Life goes on, no cops involved. If one guy was a bully and bullied people around all the time, eventually people got together and took him down. Again, no need for cops.

 

[Greenman]

I don't understand cops in the states. Why do they sometimes randomly go straight to deadly force? I doubt a single 14yo posed enough of a threat to warrant any kind of major force let alone death. If a cop is not able to restrain him then he should not be a cop because he does not meat the physical ability of being able to restrain a kid.

I'm assuming the kid did something wrong to end up in this situation but regardless, execution on the spot is not the answer. Even big time serial killers like OJ Simpson get off better than that. Kinda sad when you think about it.

And why the hell get the cops involved over an elementary school fight?! Seriously? That's pretty sad.

Half the story is missing, the only reason to edit it that way is so the reader will draw the wrong conclusion.
Back when the "three strikes" law went into effect, I read a story about a poor underprivileged fellow who's third strike was stealing a bicycle. The writer pointed how inhuman it was to send a man to prison for twenty five years for stealing a bike. What the reporter left out was that the bike was in the back of a truck that the fellow had jacked at gunpoint.

Get the whole story before drawing a conclusion.

 

[SandEagle]

Half the story is missing, the only reason to edit it that way is so the reader will draw the wrong conclusion.
Back when the "three strikes" law went into effect, I read a story about a poor underprivileged fellow who's third strike was stealing a bicycle. The writer pointed how inhuman it was to send a man to prison for twenty five years for stealing a bike. What the reporter left out was that the bike was in the back of a truck that the fellow had jacked at gunpoint.

Get the whole story before drawing a conclusion.

there is enough to the story but you are too blind and want to draw your own conclusion. cop killed an unarmed kid. what is so difficult to understand?

here, http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/lo...rict-sued-by-mother-of-slain-teen-2163242.php

 

[Red Squirrel]

Half the story is missing, the only reason to edit it that way is so the reader will draw the wrong conclusion.
Back when the "three strikes" law went into effect, I read a story about a poor underprivileged fellow who's third strike was stealing a bicycle. The writer pointed how inhuman it was to send a man to prison for twenty five years for stealing a bike. What the reporter left out was that the bike was in the back of a truck that the fellow had jacked at gunpoint.

Get the whole story before drawing a conclusion.

Hmm that's kinda bad the media would do that. If that's the case here and there's more to the story then it would be nice to actually see the cop's side. Since yeah, if there's more to it then maybe there was a reason for him to be killed. Maybe he threaten to shoot out the school or something. Who knows.

 

[GodlessAstronomer]

Hmm that's kinda bad the media would do that. If that's the case here and there's more to the story then it would be nice to actually see the cop's side. Since yeah, if there's more to it then maybe there was a reason for him to be killed. Maybe he threaten to shoot out the school or something. Who knows.

I'm sure the cop also had very good reasons for why he was reprimanded 16 times, suspended without pay 5 times and recommended for termination.

 

[TridenT]

Sosting in a pandeagle tholl tread.

 

[Sinsear]

Yet another sandeagle cop hate thread.

Cop: 1, 14 yoa perp: 0

And not a single fuck was given.

 

[IceBergSLiM]

Cop doesn't sound too good, but can we also have the background on the kid? I'm going to go out on a limb, but I don't think he is an honor roll student.

I agree we should execute students that don't make honor roll.

 

[ichy]

Sounds like society is better off without that punk.

 

[classy]

Shot dead for a school fight, sad.

 

[SP33Demon]

If the kid was unarmed and shot dead by the cop, then the cop should be serving prison time. That simple, this case is black and white.

 

[IceBergSLiM]

If the kid was unarmed and shot dead by the cop, then the cop should be serving prison time. That simple, this case is black and white.

Dude, the kid wasn't even honor roll student though....cut the cop some slack ya know?

 

[DrunkenSano]

Meh, I could care less. With charges of drug possession, assault, theft and he's only fourteen, one could see he would've been much more dangerous in the future. What the cop did wasn't right but there are more important things to worry about, like shitty parenting which was the ultimate cause of this tragedy. Parents should also be punished in this case.

 

[IceBergSLiM]

Meh, I could care less. With charges of drug possession, assault, theft and he's only fourteen, one could see he would've been much more dangerous in the future. What the cop did wasn't right but there are more important things to worry about, like shitty parenting which was the ultimate cause of this tragedy. Parents should also be punished in this case.

I agree. We absolutely waited TOO long for this execution. We should have nipped this problem in the bud after the drug possession

 

[ViviTheMage]

I'm sorry, but you're an idiot.

I am 6 feet tall and I have a 13 year old cousin who is just as tall as I am. Don't spout that bullshit about him being a kid, a 14 year old can hold a gun or knife or other deadly object just like anyone else.

My question is why he felt the need to use deadly force, which the story doesn't say.

Exactly, and cops need to be aware of this ... they're not going to die for a POS punk...this kid got kicked out of Alt school... that takes a special someone.

I am not saying the kid deserved to die though.

 

[DrunkenSano]

I agree. Parents absolutely waited TOO long for re-education or beatdown. We should have nipped this problem in the bud after the drug possession

Fixed it for you. Did he deserve to get shot? No. Am I going to care that he got shot? Not really, no. If the kid wasn't dumb enough to get put into a situation like that, then there would've been no chance of him getting shot.

 

[FDF12389]

Some articles say the officer was ordered by the operator not to pursue, others says that order was made by a superior. While this may not have anything to do with the shooting, I suspect it will pay an important role in the lawsuit. Additionally, he should have been fired if he disregarded a superiors order that ultimately resulted in a death.

At this point, due to minor inconsistencies like that, I think there's something we aren't being told.