Cop says "I'll give you a break"

[rh71]

Mom just got a 53 in a 30, straightaway local road. Cop pulls her over and apparently also mentioned "I'll give you a break, fill this out... so it won't affect your insurance."

What exactly does that mean? I'm clearly not getting a good description from her over the phone... but she says she has to send back something pleading guilty or not guilty (which I'm familiar with). Where exactly is the "break" then and how does that insurance part work? Are we still pleading guilty and paying an incoming fine? She says there's no figure on the back either.

 

[rasczak]

Originally posted by: rh71
Mom just got a 53 in a 30, straightaway local road. Cop pulls her over and apparently also mentioned "I'll give you a break, fill this out... so it won't affect your insurance."

What exactly does that mean? I'm clearly not getting a good description from her over the phone... but she says she has to send back something pleading guilty or not guilty. Where exactly is the "break" then and how does that work?

it's probably a warning ticket? or maybe he's trying to get your mom's number

such a naughty cop, he's my hero now

 

[Casawi]

What state was she in?

 

[GasX]

what is the charge listed on the ticket?

 

[OhSnap688]

When my friend got a break she just left with absolutely nothing. I have no idea what that cop gave her. Maybe a citation? Cause my friend got one for being drunk(this was in college) and she had to send it to the court and they would decide whether or not it would go into her records. They ended up saying that she would have to go to AA meetings and then if she completes that it wouldn't be on her records and stuff. I don't know if what your mom got is something similar.

 

[Corbett]

He probably gave her "impeding traffic" instead of a speeding ticket. This is a no points penalty and does not show up on your driving record.

Of course, the fine for impeding traffic is about $50 more in most cities. Thats the real reason they "do you a favor". Its to make more money for the city.

 

[AMCRambler]

Originally posted by: Corbett
He probably gave her "impeding traffic" instead of a speeding ticket. This is a no points penalty and does not show up on your driving record.

Of course, the fine for impeding traffic is about $50 more in most cities. Thats the real reason they "do you a favor". Its to make more money for the city.

Yeah that is probably what happened. That or something that is a no points infraction like a stop sign violation or something.
Sometimes the cops here will write the ticket and then tell you to come to court, they meet with the judge ahead of time and discuss it, and then come out and find you and let you know that the judge will allow you to pleade guilty to a reduced fine. That's why you always plead not guilty on the ticket, mail it in and show up for your court date. And get there early to meet with the officer.
It sounds like the officer just wrote the ticket for something else right then and there so that she would not have to waste court time and she could just mail it in and pay the fine.
I'm not one to talk, but tell your mom to watch those speed limit signs. 53 in a 30 will usually piss a cop off pretty good. They usually only post 30 mph signs in cities and densely populated neighborhoods. She was almost double the limit which I think here in NY they cuff your ass and haul you in. That cop did her a big favor.

 

[Svnla]

The cop can either give a motorist a verbal warning or a "non moving" violation ticket (cheaper and no insurance increase) such as no seatbelt, broken light, etc.

 

[rasczak]

Originally posted by: AMCRambler

Originally posted by: Corbett
He probably gave her "impeding traffic" instead of a speeding ticket. This is a no points penalty and does not show up on your driving record.

Of course, the fine for impeding traffic is about $50 more in most cities. Thats the real reason they "do you a favor". Its to make more money for the city.

Yeah that is probably what happened. That or something that is a no points infraction like a stop sign violation or something.Sometimes the cops here will write the ticket and then tell you to come to court, they meet with the judge ahead of time and discuss it, and then come out and find you and let you know that the judge will allow you to pleade guilty to a reduced fine. That's why you always plead not guilty on the ticket, mail it in and show up for your court date. And get there early to meet with the officer.
It sounds like the officer just wrote the ticket for something else right then and there so that she would not have to waste court time and she could just mail it in and pay the fine.
I'm not one to talk, but tell your mom to watch those speed limit signs. 53 in a 30 will usually piss a cop off pretty good. They usually only post 30 mph signs in cities and densely populated neighborhoods. She was almost double the limit which I think here in NY they cuff your ass and haul you in. That cop did her a big favor.

How can this be true? I thought stop sign violations had a point infraction of +2? I got a ticket for such and then got a letter from the DMV that I was perilously close to my 6 point limit (had a speeding ticket as well.)

 

[rivan]

Originally posted by: Corbett
He probably gave her "impeding traffic" instead of a speeding ticket. This is a no points penalty and does not show up on your driving record.

Of course, the fine for impeding traffic is about $50 more in most cities. Thats the real reason they "do you a favor". Its to make more money for the city.

Which is still a lot less than your insurance would go up, once your insurer finds out about the points on your license.

But then, that wouldn't be the cynical-ATOT-cops-are-money-machines-for-the-city thing to say, would it.

 

[rivan]

Originally posted by: rasczak

Originally posted by: AMCRambler

Originally posted by: Corbett
He probably gave her "impeding traffic" instead of a speeding ticket. This is a no points penalty and does not show up on your driving record.

Of course, the fine for impeding traffic is about $50 more in most cities. Thats the real reason they "do you a favor". Its to make more money for the city.

Yeah that is probably what happened. That or something that is a no points infraction like a stop sign violation or something.

How can this be true? I thought stop sign violations had a point infraction of +2? I got a ticket for such and then got a letter from the DMV that I was perilously close to my 6 point limit (had a speeding ticket as well.)

Around here, I believe the difference is moving (points) vs. non-moving (no points) violations. They're fond of "excessive noise" tickets here.

IANAL.

 

[manowar821]

Uh... I've been given a "warning" before, and nothing was required of me at all. I never got a hit on my insurance, and there was no BS signature required. You don't need to sign anything during a traffic stop, I haven't a clue as to what this cop gave to her.

 

[Golgatha]

Originally posted by: rh71
Mom just got a 53 in a 30, straightaway local road. Cop pulls her over and apparently also mentioned "I'll give you a break, fill this out... so it won't affect your insurance."

What exactly does that mean? I'm clearly not getting a good description from her over the phone... but she says she has to send back something pleading guilty or not guilty (which I'm familiar with). Where exactly is the "break" then and how does that insurance part work? Are we still pleading guilty and paying an incoming fine? She says there's no figure on the back either.

In Missouri at least, I believe 19 mph over the speed limit can get you a careless and imprudent driving citation. Much worse than a speeding ticket for insurance purposes.

 

[JeffreyLebowski]

Originally posted by: rh71
Mom just got a 53 in a 30, straightaway local road. Cop pulls her over and apparently also mentioned "I'll give you a break, fill this out... so it won't affect your insurance."

What exactly does that mean? I'm clearly not getting a good description from her over the phone... but she says she has to send back something pleading guilty or not guilty (which I'm familiar with). Where exactly is the "break" then and how does that insurance part work? Are we still pleading guilty and paying an incoming fine? She says there's no figure on the back either.

That's your moms way of saying she gave the cop a blow job behind the dumpster so she didn't get screwed by insurance and fines.

 

[sswingle]

I got a warning for no turn signal. Didnt get any paperwork at all.

 

[rh71]

Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski

That's your moms way of saying she gave the cop a blow job behind the dumpster so she didn't get screwed by insurance and fines.

WTF is wrong with you? You've been here since 2000, you've got to be older than 15 by now.

 

[sdifox]

Originally posted by: Corbett
He probably gave her "impeding traffic" instead of a speeding ticket. This is a no points penalty and does not show up on your driving record.

Of course, the fine for impeding traffic is about $50 more in most cities. Thats the real reason they "do you a favor". Its to make more money for the city.

I would consider that a big favor, 50 bux is nothign compared to the raping you are going to get from the insurance company.

 

[TehMac]

I've never head of an Asian women going that fast on what sounds like a residential road. :Q

 

[FDF12389]

Nutshell

Increased monetary fine on the ticket, but with no moving points = you dont have to hassle with a ADA later(No missing/being late to work), and no insurance increase.

 

[rh71]

This is in NY. The charge is officially "disobeyed traffic control device" so I guess that's how he gave her a break (saved 3 points on license), but in the additional comments of the ticket it clearly states defendant did speed @ 53 in 30. I suppose comments don't count toward the actual charge/fine? It requires us to plea guilty/not guilty but the fine is not listed. So I guess I'm calling the court to find out the charge for the traffic control device law...

 

[JEDI]

Originally posted by: rh71
Mom just got a 53 in a 30, straightaway local road. Cop pulls her over and apparently also mentioned "I'll give you a break, fill this out... so it won't affect your insurance."

What exactly does that mean? I'm clearly not getting a good description from her over the phone... but she says she has to send back something pleading guilty or not guilty (which I'm familiar with). Where exactly is the "break" then and how does that insurance part work? Are we still pleading guilty and paying an incoming fine? She says there's no figure on the back either.

ahh.. vagueness.. the new Ghetto fabulous

 

[Injury]

Originally posted by: rh71
This is in NY. The charge is officially "disobeyed traffic control device" so I guess that's how he gave her a break (saved 3 points on license), but in the additional comments of the ticket it clearly states defendant did speed @ 53 in 30. I suppose comments don't count toward the actual charge/fine? It requires us to plea guilty/not guilty but the fine is not listed. So I guess I'm calling the court to find out the charge for the traffic control device law...

Yeah, the cop can pretty much put in for any charge that fits the situation. It's listed on the ticket as a preventative for trying to fight it in court because no one is going to believe that she obeyed the traffic signals and was going the speed limit.

The fine he gave is usually a flat fine that would likely be less than 23MPH over and not a moving violation, so insurance likely won't even put it on her record.

 

[randay]

pics of your mom to see if the "break" was warranted or not.

 

[rasczak]

Originally posted by: FDF12389
Nutshell

Increased monetary fine on the ticket, but with no moving points = you dont have to hassle with a ADA later(No missing/being late to work), and no insurance increase.

makes it worth it IMO

 

[rh71]

wtf, now she calls me and says her battery is dead in the parking lot of her job... and no she didn't leave anything on. Must be a thursday the 13th thing.