Cop lied about shooting according to new audio

GarfieldtheCat

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I couldn't find the original thread about this, I thought there was one somewhere.

http://miami.cbslocal.com/2016/07/06/911-call-released-in-deadly-police-involved-shooting/

Undercover cop drove up to a black man with a broken down car, and ended up shooting him. Turns out of course, the car was his and not stolen like the cop assumed, just broken down, and was he was legally carrying a firearm. And the cop was in plainclothes and never said he was a cop.

Turns out there is a 2nd audio of the incident which shows that the cop lied (gee, what a shock right? Cops lie?)

When a Palm Beach Gardens police officer fatally shot a legally armed black musician last October, a recorded 911 call shows the officer yelled for the man to put down his gun “right now” just as the operator came on the line

Oops.....there was another recording

Charging documents say the tow truck recording shows that as Jones and the operator talked, the door chimes from Jones’ SUV sounded, indicating he stepped out as Raja approached. It recorded an exchange where Raja repeatedly asks variations of “You good?” to which Jones repeatedly replies he is. Raja never says he is a police officer.

Suddenly, the officer shouts, using an expletive, for Jones to put his hands up.

Jones replies: “Hold on!” And Raja repeats his demand.

Raja then fired three shots in less than two seconds, according to the charging documents. Ten seconds of silence then pass before three more shots, each fired about one second apart, are heard. Jones’ autopsy showed a bullet had pierced his heart and lungs as he fled and would have felled him almost immediately.

The 911 operator answered Raja’s call 33 seconds after the last shot was fired, according to charging documents.

So how did he tell Jones to drop the gun on the 911 call when that was after he already shot him multiple times?

Hmmmm.....cops lying again to get away with murdering people? Tell me it' isn't so.

This is what the cop claimed happened:

I saw him come out with a handgun. I gave him commands and identified myself and he turned, pointed the gun at me and started running and I shot him,” Raja told the operator.]

Nothing like that on the audio. Yet another cop execution of a black man.
 

dank69

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He turned, pointed the gun at me, and started running. That makes a lot of sense.
 

glenn1

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The article isn't very well written and I'm having difficulty following the supposed sequence of events. Am I understanding it correctly there was actually two different shooting incidents? The first where it's ambiguous whether it was a legally plausible claim of self-defense by the officer. Then a second later one where the guy had run, dropped his weapon, and was standing some distance away that can't realistically be justified as a self-defense action by the officer?
 

woolfe9998

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The article isn't very well written and I'm having difficulty following the supposed sequence of events. Am I understanding it correctly there was actually two different shooting incidents? The first where it's ambiguous whether it was a legally plausible claim of self-defense by the officer. Then a second later one where the guy had run, dropped his weapon, and was standing some distance away that can't realistically be justified as a self-defense action by the officer?

The article says the cop asked Jones to drop his gun, and Jones replied "hold on," then 3 shots are fired, followed by 10 seconds of silence, then three more shots, each 1 second apart. We don't know if the first three shots were justified without knowing precisely what Jones was doing besides saying "hold on." It does, however, seem pretty clear that the later shots were not justified. The fact they were 1 second apart indicates careful aiming, that he was shooting at the back of someone fleeing, and after he had discarded his gun. Also, he clearly lied to the 911 operator.

This case seems fairly clear on the evidence disclosed so far.
 

glenn1

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The article says the cop asked Jones to drop his gun, and Jones replied "hold on," then 3 shots are fired, followed by 10 seconds of silence, then three more shots, each 1 second apart. We don't know if the first three shots were justified without knowing precisely what Jones was doing besides saying "hold on." It does, however, seem pretty clear that the later shots were not justified. The fact they were 1 second apart indicates careful aiming, that he was shooting at the back of someone fleeing, and after he had discarded his gun. Also, he clearly lied to the 911 operator.

This case seems fairly clear on the evidence disclosed so far.

Thanks, makes more sense now.
 

GarfieldtheCat

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Geez how many more blacks are going to get killed. So sad.

Until everyone rises up and start demanding cops be help accountable for their abuses, it will continue.

Plenty of racists and cop lovers out there to allow this to go on, and it only take one on a jury to guarantee that they get acquitted, even if they do get charged.