Cop beats man at traffic stop

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Dari

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So you're cool with the cops committing felonies and getting away with it but the peasants better be fucking polite or else?

Considering he mentioned Asians earlier maybe he likes people being passive and obedient? I've been in New York's Chinatown a couple of time where I've seen Chinese cops berating and slapping Chinese people. And how do these Chinese people respond? With apologies and deference. It's truly pathetic. I cannot imagine a Chinese cop doing that to a white woman or black man but that's how they roll over there. No complaints; no riots, just the way JackBurton likes it.:rolleyes:
 

umbrella39

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This is odd, I haven't seen very many if any "police abuse" cases against Asians. Weird. I wonder why. Ah, that's meaningless. Let's get back to the smoke and mirrors, and focus on "police abuse."

Pst, the guy in THIS thread has a clean record and the cop who was doing the striking is the one with a mile long rap sheet. Just thought you should know.
 

Subyman

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There are several laws that should be changed. In Furgeson and Baltimore, a law should have been passed to allow citizens to protect their property with deadly force. Instead they were held hostage and vandalized by the community that was OUTRAGED by abuse. So let's focus on the REAL problem, so we can avoid incidents like this in the future. Again, spraying the smoke won't put out the fire. The real problem is the actual people. Shitty people that make excuses and put the blame on everyone but themselves. The lady slapping her son for rioting, part of the problem. She had SIX kids! How are you going to escape poverty if you keep digging a hole for yourself? This is a recipe for complete failure, and NO ONE wants to address the REAL problem. The black leaders instead focus on cops, governments, the man, whatever else EXCEPT for the REAL issue. You fix the community, you fix the cop "abuse" issue. The only way you're going to fix it though, is if you acknowledge the problem first.

Now I mention the black community, but you have similar things going on in the white community. You have your douchebags that like push cops' buttons, and then complain when they get stomped. Again, FU. I'm not going to back you for being an asshole. You played with fire, you got burned, deal with it.

I've had my run in with cops that were assholes, but never had an issue. Why? Because I didn't do stupid shit. COULD something have happened without provocation? Sure! However it is HIGHLY unlikely if you FIRST don't have a rap sheet, secondly, you don't antagonize the cop, and lastly, you comply. Pretty easy formula, but apparently this is REALLY difficult to follow. Failure to follow this basic formula, gets no sympathy from me. Sorry.

I think you need to stop reading the neocon mailing lists and develop some healthy empathy for others, then you may be capable of seeing the issue.

So you dodged my question, you believe it is okay for the police to bend the law as they desire?
 
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I've had my run in with cops that were assholes, but never had an issue. Why? Because I didn't do stupid shit. COULD something have happened without provocation? Sure! However it is HIGHLY unlikely if you FIRST don't have a rap sheet, secondly, you don't antagonize the cop, and lastly, you comply. Pretty easy formula, but apparently this is REALLY difficult to follow. Failure to follow this basic formula, gets no sympathy from me. Sorry.

See guys? It's easy to get along with cops. Just get down on your knees and suck their dicks. No problem.

Or at least it's clear JB has no problem with it.
 

Linux23

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Considering he mentioned Asians earlier maybe he likes people being passive and obedient? I've been in New York's Chinatown a couple of time where I've seen Chinese cops berating and slapping Chinese people. And how do these Chinese people respond? With apologies and deference. It's truly pathetic. I cannot imagine a Chinese cop doing that to a white woman or black man but that's how they roll over there. No complaints; no riots, just the way JackBurton likes it.:rolleyes:

not sure why i Lol'd at this. why?

maybe JB likes dicks?
 
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Well, a day in court is coming.

Former Michigan Cop William Melendez to Stand Trial for Beating of Unarmed Man, Floyd Dent

"A former suburban Detroit police officer caught on camera repeatedly punching, kicking and tasering an unarmed black man during a traffic stop will stand trial, a district court judge ruled Thursday afternoon.

Former Inkster, Michigan, officer William Melendez was charged with assault with intent to do great bodily harm and misconduct in office and fired after a January incident involving Floyd Dent, who was stopped after running a stop sign.

Wayne County District Court Judge Sabrina Johnson found there was enough evidence to put Melendez on trial Thursday afternoon, approving an additional charge of assault with strangulation after Dent testified in court and recounted the night he was arrested."

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...endez-stand-trial-beating-unarmed-man-n366201
 

zanejohnson

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Nope, didn't choose to ignore it.

I never said there wasn't a problem.

Anecdote is not the plural of data.

Numbers mean something. A video every other day doesn't.


if you'd done YOUR research, you'd know that in fact, our gov does NOT keep record of these types of incidents... it's not available to the public...

why do you think? because if it was people would see just HOW BAD IT REALLY IS.


do me a favor and google number of civilians killed by cops per year... you wont find it, they dont release it to the public. the data is just NOT THERE.
 

Indus

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SheHateMe

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Where do you think the money to fund these thugs come from? The Taxpayers. So who is going to pay for their fuck ups? Guess who.
 

alcoholbob

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It's too dangerous to let people defend themselves. Then they'd be able to resist the state. We need the state to look after us.
 

umbrella39

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There is already a couple of threads about this Dent beating by crocked and oft punished and fired for beating on and planting evidence disgraced PIG Melendez. It's a shame that the people of Inkster have to pay for this. Police departments that hire bad cops should take a certain percentage out of every cop's pay and put it in a interest gaining fund to pay for these bad cops actions when they do eventually go nuts. Maybe their brothers and sisters in blue would start policing themselves better if it started"Dented" all of their pockets, too.
 

Kwatt

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Article: http://www.freep.com/story/news/loc...dent-inkster-beating-tax-settlement/28328993/

Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7yMbQMx-o4

Police brutality on an unarmed victim
Police planting drugs on victim to claim legitimate arrest
And victim wins settlement in court BUT..
The settlement does not come from the police's pockets but a new tax on property owners is created to fund the settlement.

Fair or Unfair?

I'll have to say Fair.

The Police work for the taxpayer. When an employee commits a crime in the employers name the employer is on the hook.

If the employer is unhappy with the employee they can replace the employee.

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ivwshane

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There is already a couple of threads about this Dent beating by crocked and oft punished and fired for beating on and planting evidence disgraced PIG Melendez. It's a shame that the people of Inkster have to pay for this. Police departments that hire bad cops should take a certain percentage out of every cop's pay and put it in a interest gaining fund to pay for these bad cops actions when they do eventually go nuts. Maybe their brothers and sisters in blue would start policing themselves better if it started"Dented" all of their pockets, too.


You know, if police had to take pay cuts or a percent off of their pay when their members are found guilty of such crimes maybe that would be incentive enough for good cops to start turning on the bad cops. Or do you think the bad cops will just get better at hiding their crimes?
 
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glad I don't own property in that location. Holy fuck if I paid an extra $400 on my taxes that year from other people's fuck-ups I would go fucking ballistic.
 

JSt0rm

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It should always be like this. Then the taxpayers will get real pissed with local pds that fuck around and do their own housecleaning.
 

Linux23

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True. Maybe when the Fuckups get too high in value then people will take some time off from their busy and important lives watching soap operas and reality tv and start demanding things change.
 

Darwin333

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Sometimes you have to fight fire, with fire. I'm not defending a criminal with a freakin' mile long rap sheet. Sorry. I have YET to see a case where death by police could have been prevented by FIRST OF ALL, not breaking the law and secondly, complying.

Now once we have cases where police are driving by shooting people for no reason, I'll take notice. Until then, we don't have a police abuse problem, we have detriments to society that pushed the limits of their lawlessness too far, and cry when things go wrong.

Despite what you may see on CNN and morons on YouTube beating the drum of "POLICE ABUSE," a LARGE silent part of America are looking at these incidents and seeing it for what it is, the black community shifting the blame on ANYONE and EVERYONE but themselves. It's smoke and mirrors, and people aren't taking the bait.

The core problem here is the core family values in black communities, NOT the police. As long as you refuse to address the REAL issue, these incidents will continue to happen and violence will only get worse. This is like trying to put out a fire by pointing the fire extinguisher at the smoke.

Despite what the media tells you it's not just black folk getting fucked over by the cops.

Regardless, since when does criminal behavior of one group validate the criminal behavior of officers of the state? If you believe all the bullshit that you just wrote than why don't you start advocating that cops be legally allowed to execute the "non-desirables", on the spot, as they see fit?

Lastly, could you please describe in as much detail as possible what the "smoke and mirrors" in the OPs video was? Could you please describe in as much detail as possible when it's ok for a cop to plant evidence on a person in order to have a reason to arrest them after they beat the shit out of you? Could you please describe in as much detail as possible when it's ok for cops to beat the everloving shit out of someone who is not being aggressive or combative in anyway whatsoever? Do those rules only apply to black folk (the focus of your post)?
 

umbrella39

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You know, if police had to take pay cuts or a percent off of their pay when their members are found guilty of such crimes maybe that would be incentive enough for good cops to start turning on the bad cops. Or do you think the bad cops will just get better at hiding their crimes?

It would probably backfire and lead to even more covering up...
 

Darwin333

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It should always be like this. Then the taxpayers will get real pissed with local pds that fuck around and do their own housecleaning.

While I would rather it come out of the police budget this is probably the 2nd best option. It's not just taken out of the general fund but an extra tax that people who are rarely victimized by the police (middle/upper middle class) to see and have to pay because the police fucked up. In local politics the middle/upper middle class have a lot of sway and you can bet that once they start getting hit in the pocket they will demand shit changes quick, fast and in a hurry.

"This is the fraternal order of police calling to solicit donations for our men in blue"

"Sorry bud but I already donated my share, it was a line item on my property tax"

But if we really want to see change, start hitting the actual police departments in their pockets. You can damn well bet that they will start policing themselves when every time one of their coworkers fucks up it costs them a 5% of their take home pay. You can also bet that chiefs (or whoever) will be way quicker to fire a power hungry jackboot as soon as they start to become a problem, telling the union to go F themselves, versus doing nothing. You want to know why "robocop" was still a cop, it's because his fuckups (READ: CRIMINAL ACTIVITY) didn't cost either him nor his department a damn thing but fighting the union to fire his ass will cost something.
 

Darwin333

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It would probably backfire and lead to even more covering up...

How could there possibly be more covering up than we currently have???

The video in the OP alone, how many officers were around? How many witnessed the blatant criminal actions? Now how many filed a report on their fellow officer?

Do a quick google search on police rats and see how fucked a police officers life becomes if they do out an officer... The bottom line is that if you are a police officer and you feel morally obligated to out a fellow officer that is on the take, beating the fuck out of innocent people or even committing murder you had better have a new career already lined up.
 

Linux23

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sad but true. no system of accountability. snitch and your career is over. sorta like our government.