Coolingproblem AMD Duron 650

[salar]

Can someone please help me with my problems to cool my new processor?
I installed my processor and heatsink without thermalgrease since i did´nt know where to apply it ( I´m only used to old petiumprocessor´s ).
How shall I apply "coolingstuff" on my new processor?
Should I try to remove "the-small-round-thing´s-at-the-corner´s" as I figure I can´t just apply "coolingstuff" all over the processor.??
My processor run´s at 50 degree´s celsius and how warm can it be before it fries?

Very grateful for help.

 

[arthurb1]

Turn it off now!!!!!!

Put that greas only on the core (the middle shiny part) and leave those round pads (stabilizers for the heatsink) there, thin layer of the grease and keep an eye on the temp...50C ic almost cooked.

 

[troubledshooter]

If your 50 is accurate, its not nearly cooked. You can run sub-60 as long as you want without fear if you are stable. But knowing KT mobos, you probably aren't getting accurate readings. As he said, apply the grease just to the shiny core, and BY ALL MEANS LEAVE THOSE PADS ON. You will probably break your duron if you take them off.

gl

 

[Enigma]

50 C. is not going to cook it, AMD allows up to 90 C. The round pads on Chip are to support heatsink. I'm currently running Duron 600 overclocked to 840 @ 41C. A small amount on top of chip wafer will work fine.

 

[DaddyG]

Salar, did your heatsink come with a thermal pad already on the hsf. If it did all you need to do is remove the protective film and install the HSF and your good to go.

 

[arthurb1]

Sorry, I just wouldn't want mine running that hot, my original athlon never ran that hot, and it was 300mhz over spec 600@900...

 

[Mem]

What heatsink/fan are you using? Did it come with the processor.

 

[eyor]

I assume you are using the stock heatsink/fan. On the bottom, there is a square that is covered with a piece of paper. pull this paper off, rub the already applied glop of putty over the square, and then match up the square on your heatsink with the one on your processor. The pads are to hold up the heatsink. If you are not sure about the orientation of anything consult the manual that came with your processor. It should have detailed instructions w/ pictures.

 

[ColdTech]

Way To hot....
My Ghz is currently running at 41 C..... Cooling is importint with these things Too hot & you will see all kinds of problems. (My room mate found out the hard way with his TBird) . Also Consider Ventillating your case a little better, an exause fan next to the processor works great.

 

[eyor]

Sweet system, ColdTech!

 

[ColdTech]

Yup thanks. but its now running at 1050 & posted at 1200

 

[Voland]

Dude, just put the thermal grease on the green die on the processor. It will be fine. Don't put too much, just eough to cover the area.
Even 40 c is a bit igh. It will work fine, but why have it at that temperature, when you can have it lower.
ColdTech - why dont you bench your system at 900 and at 1008 and post the results. I want to see how much difference the gigahertz makes...

 

[NicColt]

Temperature readings are flaky to say the lease, I had some correspondence with someone who swore that he was getting 40c at D900 but then found out that he had his wire touching the heatsink. Also different bios on different boards will report different readings, to get the most accurate readings you either need a built-in thermastor or have your wire actually touching the side of the core. and if you have cooling there's just no way your going to fry the cpu if it goes high you'll just freeze but then either scale back or get better coolling. If you boot without a heatsink though you will definetely kill your cpu. Myself I'm running vCore 1.85 with 10x95Bus for 950 with a room temp of 72F so the cpu is actually running at a 1Ghz. and as I type this I have 52c. the only problem I'v had is when my room temp reached 85F and my temp went upto 58 and froze my pc. I just scalled back down to 855 with a vcore of 1.75 for 48c. As long as you have cooling just get to know your temp and cpu limits and you'll be fine.

 

[MadRat]

Keep the layer of thermal grease as thin as possible. The paste is only to fill in air holes, not necessarily does it conduct heat very well.

The footpads need to stay on it, they are there to protect the cpu's core.

 

[insane]

NicColt how can you get so high??
we have the same combo FOP32-1 and Artic silver i am running it at 865mhz(7,5*115) 44 MAX. I can't seem to get it stable above 870. Maybee i will try the abit voltage mod to 1.9v wich should make me hit +900 marks or maybee i should buy a 700mhz instead wich for sure hits 1Ghz

 

[Tr0LL]

???
hey Voland,
40C is high? wtf? do you have a duron/t-bird? the lowest I've seen them run are high 30s. And that's wtih a good heatsink/fan (not stock) AND a low room temp (around <75). Probably 90% of the Durons/t-birds are running at 40+ temps. That is NOT high. 50+ is getting high. but 40 is not....... dont' scare the dude........

I have a duron 600 @ 1010mhz rite now using the alpha pep66 and delta fan...... room temp and case temp is 30C / 86F....... (case temp is the same as room temp cuz when i take out the sides, temps stay the same)

Cpu idle temp = 45C / 113F
Cpu temp @ full load = 46C / 115

Cpu temps would be around low 40s IF my room temp was 70...... u guys live in some cold ass rooms......

 

[MadRat]

Most modern cpu's (all Intel and AMD ones at least) have an integrated temperature-sensitive diode so that the motherboard can read its thermal measurements.

 

[NicColt]

<< we have the same combo FOP32-1 and Artic silver i am running it at 865mhz(7,5*115) 44 MAX >>


Insane, your system may be running faster than mine, I have my FSB at 95 but the cpu at 10X. It's the combination of (Heat X FSB X Clock) that the system is stable at that really matters. I haven't tried 7.5X115 but I find that games are more stable if I decrease the FSB. But my system may be different than yours and others. Like I said you have to find the 'limits' of your package, not just how fast individually they can run at. In some cases a lower FSB with a higher clock speed may be good for some but in other cases a hight FSB with a low clock may even be better. It's all a balance of preference, limits and stability.

 

[insane]

It's not getting your systeem stable is maximizing the performance of your systeem. While 865mhz seems abit low the memory performance (because of the 115Fbs) is just stunning Sandra memory benchmark 603/518. Games really take advantage of high memory bandwidth (that's why P4 is quick as hell in quake3). It's a shame i can't do a FBS of 95 (i have a abit kt7 raid) i would really experiment the combination you use. Can you run 9,5*100mzh??.

 

[NicColt]

&quot;Can you run 9,5*100mzh?&quot;
Yes I can, I had it once at 9.5X102 for about an hour with no problems. But Half-Life has a fit with anything over 95Bus so until then it's 95Bus for me. Maybe it has to do with this TnT2 that I have but I'll wait and see what happens when I get my ALW-Radeon.

 

[insane]

This sucks man. I want to reach the +900 mark. What's holding me back?. I think it's the videocard (Viper 550 wil be replaced by the ati radeon maxx 128mb ddr when released). What do you think NicColt?

Bye
Insane

PS i saw your site running everything on default is 39C damn that's pretty hot mines run 33C

 

[NicColt]

33c well that's about 4-5c above room temp, either you have the best non-water cooling system out there or your sensor readings are a little misleading. but then again diff. board and bios's will report diff readings. Just curious what does your bios report when your computer is off?

 

[NicColt]

just to give you an examble look at this thread, he jumped 10 degrees just by updating the bios.
Link to thread

 

[Falcon777]

Yeah, with a stock TBird 750 I'm getting 29C at the desktop (With Rain running) The highest its gotten when pushing it hard is 46C, above 50C I think I'd start getting nervous. But thats mostly cause I just have a stock HSF

 

[ColdTech]

Voland: good ideal. I will post results later or tomorrow