Cooling/Temperature Question...SOLVED!

[enon8727]

Greetings ladies and gentlemen. I was wondering what you smart people would think the average and high temps would be (in °F or °C) for my case and processor (mostly concerned about the case)(as in "ambient"). My rig is in my sig. I like to eat pig, and read articles on digg. I'm not big, but I'm tall like a mall and I used to play ball, ya'll. Alright enough of that.

Or if you know of someplace (website, etc.) where I could find out. Just curious, because sometimes the ambient gets up to about 45-47°C.

 

[enon8727]

...and those temps are measured by my nForce system board, so how accurate could that be?

 

[Gautama2]

With your processor don't let it reach around 65 C.

Your case temps are a tad on the high side, whats the temp in your room? And you can test the accuracy by holding your hand by the back, you learn to gauge temps

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: enon8727
Greetings ladies and gentlemen. I was wondering what you smart people would think the average and high temps would be (in °F or °C) for my case and processor (mostly concerned about the case)(as in "ambient"). My rig is in my sig. I like to eat pig, and read articles on digg. I'm not big, but I'm tall like a mall and I used to play ball, ya'll. Alright enough of that.

Or if you know of someplace (website, etc.) where I could find out. Just curious, because sometimes the ambient gets up to about 45-47°C.

45??? your kidding me right?? your ambient case inside temp??

My CPU LOAD doesnt exceed 40C. But then again, i cheat and im on h2o. But the temp inside your case shouldnt be more then 5-6C outside temp. If your running higher, id say its a calling of danger, any lower and its prefered.

With my wire management skills at best, the closest i could ever get inside with outside was within 1-2C.

So yeah, if your inside case temp is 45C holy cow.... time for you to hit that wire management stickey and start working on your internals.

EDIT: i just read your using NF display to view temps. GAH... Compare your thing with mine below

My Temps

Those are my load temps, your IDLE temps should be near those to be on the safe side. Well GPU can be safe at 50C but the others should line up near your IDLE temps.

 

[WoodButcher]

yes, aigomorla is right on. 5-6c above room temp for a tower a little higher in the smaller cases. Wire manegement and airflow go hand in hand, clean innards are also a big factor. If you have filters clean them, check your fans. And check your software , open the side of the case and direct a household fan at your pc, if your temps still read high the thermal sensors or software is bad, if the temps drop you need to fix your airflow.

 

[enon8727]

Mother of pearl. Well, I forgot to mention that I have a regular thermometer "mounted" on the inside of the side panel opposite the Plexiglas panel and to measure ambient temps because I started thinking a while ago that the temps from the nVMonitor application from my system board might be measuring the temps a bit on the high side since it's embedded into the system board. And this regular thermometer never says much over 35C.

Ok, like right now, I have iTunes running with the "visual effects" kickin, Google Earth (which sucks on dialup btw), Firefox with six tabs up, and the nVidia MonitorView says CPU 41C and System 44C, while the thermometer that I talked about says like 34ish.

My thermostat for my house says about 22C but in my room it's probably a few degrees warmer because of the computer and monitors running and such...so say about 24C in my room. So my ambient temp should only be like 30C tops you're saying?

My innards are clean as a whistle and the same for my fans, and I don't have any filters. I think the wire management is pretty good too, for what I have. I'll post pics and see what you guys think.

As for my fans, I have one 120mm exhaust, an 80mm and 120mm intake, then the CPU, chipset, and graphics card fan...and of course the two on the PSU, which only one is running constantly, the other rarely, if ever, comes on.

 

[enon8727]

Here's some semi-crappy pics of my setup. The wire management (especially from the PSU) looks pretty bad, but there's really not much else I could do. But if you have suggestions, I'd love to hear em.

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[enon8727]

Hm, guess you can't use html...pretty sweet. Just click the second link in each anchor, thanks.

 

[Operandi]

"System temp" can really be measured in any several different places and will vary depending on where that measurement is taken. For example if the readout is near the northbridge or PWM it's going to be much higher then ambient case temp.

You can use a digital thermometer and measure the temp of the exhaust air if you want to get a true reading.

My system runs about 8c above ambient room temp but that is due to thermally controlled Panaflo L1As running at sub 1,000RPM during idle moving little air and making even less noise.

 

[aigomorla]

i think the 45C your seeing on your nvidia monitor is the system part. That is usually tied in with the NF4 controler your board has.

So your system saying its 45C means your NB is 45C and not your inside temp being 45C.

System of 45C is acceptable, and not high to nvidia standards. If that thing pops near 70 id be scared however.


Dont worry about your temps, your internals look clean, and 45C of system temp really isnt much to be worrying about.

 

[Operandi]

Originally posted by: aigomorla
i think the 45C your seeing on your nvidia monitor is the system part. That is usually tied in with the NF4 controler your board has.

So your system saying its 45C means your NB is 45C and not your inside temp being 45C.

System of 45C is acceptable, and not high to nvidia standards. If that thing pops near 70 id be scared however.


Dont worry about your temps, your internals look clean, and 45C of system temp really isnt much to be worrying about.

Thats probably the case, I've built a couple of 939 systems where the CPU temp was lower then the "system" temp.

Do keep in mind though the nForce4 doesn't actually have temp readout capability so reading is most likely taking a measurement of the air in proximity of the chipset but not the chipset itself.

 

[enon8727]

Thanks for all your info guys. That makes sense now. I read through the wire management sticky and bought some spiral wrap and also got a multifunction panel with four fan speed controllers, four thermal sensors for measuring temp where I want, and a lot of other cool features, so I'm gonna redo the wire management in my case, so that should help a little bit too.