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william.bosdash

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Currently using a CM Hyper 212 EVO. In a Cheap case.... Vivo case-v01, ASRock MB, fx6100 CPU. Video is GTX 950. I don't overclock, and temps are fine. My 2 issues are the cooler is too tall for case, can not put side cover on. Cooler is about 5mm to tall. Second issue is PC is extremely loud. Use preinstalled 200mm front fan, and 80mm rear i had laying around. and stock Fans on HS. What I'm looking for is a quieter case. I was considering a LC setup, however my last setup was in ~2000, homemade WB (Had access to a cnc mill) custom build. So what i need is advice on how to proceed. I'm looking at a new CPU in near future, socket 1151 most likely. If i go water cooled, might want to include video card as well. Can also upgrade on case if needed. Any advice welcome.
 

lehtv

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What motherboard? Look into the manual or just go into BIOS and see if you can't reduce the CPU and case fan RPM's. You can do the same for the video card by using MSI Afterburner, but I somehow doubt graphics card noise is an issue. You're probably just running case fans at full speed all the time.

If you can't reduce case fan speeds, just upgrade the case. For instance, DIYPC Silence-BK is very good, it has 3 quiet fans attached to a fan controller. For $60 you can't really get much better than that.

Water cooling is completely unnecessary if you don't even overclock. (It'd be unnecessary even if you did.)
 

william.bosdash

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Board is a 970m. I believe. And WC is just somethimg i used to enjoy. And was virtually silent. Small hum from pump, which was a pond pump and i couldnt even hear it with even the lowest volume. I havent kept up with the latest cooling tech. Which is why i left WC option open. As far as video card fan it barely runs. Even at full speed it's ALMOST silent.

Edit.. glad you linked new egg. I prefer shopping there.

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lehtv

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this one? see manual p. 62

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Default for both CPU and case fans is to run at full speed. Try the Automatic Mode, it should automatically adjust fan speeds according to CPU temperature.
 

william.bosdash

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That's the one, and i thought i did set it to auto. I will double check when i get home. Now I'm not sure...

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Well it was auto, but fan speed was lvl 9... took it down to level 1 and its much quieter now. Thanx for the tip. And another question. I can set a target temp. What should i set it to. Currently its at 60°c. Cpu is fx6100. Heres a screen shot....
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BonzaiDuck

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While I'm running affinitized LinX on my Skylake 6700K to see if I can drop the voltage for a 4.5Ghz overclock, I've developed a point of view.

You can go any way you want on the Skylake, either Big Air, or maybe minimum single-fan Water custom or AiO (like H80i). If you really want to overclock the Skylake, this narrows down to a need for something between an H100 to a Swiftech H240 X2 or EKWB Predator -- there are a lot of AiO's to choose from.

And something you can do for either Air or Water: either buy your CPU from Silicon Lottery and have it CLU-re-lidded, or send them the chip you have for $50. Or you can do it yourself. I preferred paying $50 to someone who's done the work many times.

With Big Air, you would lean toward the most effective heatpipe cooler you can find, and balance "compactness" across performance and weight. The NH-D15 and ThermalRight LG Macho are approximately tied, or with a slight edge for the TR, which falls about 5C behind the EKWB Predator 240. But you could compare the temperatures you might get for a TR or Noctua with the re-lidded Skylake against a test bed with a factory-fresh CPU (polymer TIM) and something like an EXOS dual fan case-top external water cooler. My TR with CLU-re-lid beats the EXOS test-bed @ 4.7 Ghz by about 3 or 4C.

With the water, you have fittings, a pump with a life-expectancy, annual maintenance to drain, fill and bleed. With the Big Air, you have the weight and precautions for moving the computer or shipping it with the cooler removed. With the Silicon Lottery service, I think you'd lose your Intel 3-year-warranty. But you do that anyway if you lap the heat-spreader or overclock -- unless you buy the special Intel "insurance."

One more thought. You always have to consider the case and its potential or options with this choice of air or water. There are pros and cons that involve other things besides cooling: for instance, how many 5.25" drive bays do you need, how many do you want, and how many do you get with a front-panel 240mm radiator location? If you put the radiator in the top case panel, how much will it overhang and obscure the motherboard or make access more tedious?

Ultimately, air-flow is the key to either cooling strategy.
 
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william.bosdash

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Thanx for tips etc. Always welcome. I was considering a 6500k or 6700k.

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BonzaiDuck

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Thanx for tips etc. Always welcome. I was considering a 6500k or 6700k.

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A lot of the veteran forum members I've heard discuss the pros and cons of Skylake are inclined to "go big" with a 6700K because it has a longer overclocking reach and performs better. But it depends on what you need the computer for. Even the non-K processors going back to Ivy Bridge impress me more or less, though.
 

william.bosdash

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Yeah, ive been looking into cpus. Im trying to decide what i want to do. Buget will be about 500 for my next upgrade. Which is going to be cpu/mb/ram (if i go ddr4) currently have 16GB ddr3. Its good if ican get a mb thats 1151 and supports it. Just to get me by till the new year and i can further upgrade. Video card, better cooling and new case. I plan to do a post askng just that tomorrow. Im headed to work right now so i cant do all specifics. Current system. Anyway thanx for the input.

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