CoolerMaster Hyper 212

[JPB]

Well, the Cooler Master Hyper 212 finally arrived.

Got it installed and I must say it fits the Gigabyte UD3P like a glove.

How long should I wait for the paste to *cure* I guess before the temps read properly and to start my overclocking ?

OH...and in Real Temp, when I test the sensors...they both are showing up as 0. Why is that ? Before I installed the cooler...they would average from 3-7 in value.

So far, I like the Hyper 212 A LOT better than the Thermalright Ultra


Here are two pics of it installed. Don't mind the pics, they were taken with a cell phone.

Pic 1

Pic 2

 

[uclaLabrat]

I have one ordered, should be here in a couple days. I have no TRUE to compare it to, however. I"ll be happy to post some results as soon as I get the build finished.

 

[JPB]

Thanks uclaLabrat.

Yes please do that. That will let me know whether to pick one up for testing. What cpu and motherboard are you running ?

 

[uclaLabrat]

I'll be running a 920 on the evga mobo. Hopefully it clocks well.

 

[JPB]

See OP for the questions about problems I am having.

 

[JPB]

According to the BIOS...my cpu temps is 23c. And according to Gigabyte Hardware Monitor....it averages between 21c and 23c. BUT.....Real Temp says the temps are 45c and 42c for each core. And Core Temp says the temps are 35c and 32c for each core. I think I would believe the BIOS before those.

Also, Everest Ultimate says the temps are 45c and 42c.

Of course, all of these temps are at idle and stock speeds. I will be overclocking once I find out which temps are accurate.

Why are these monitoring programs reporting inaccurate temps ? And the bios is 23c ??

Anyone ?

 

[daw123]

Is Tj Max set correctly in the monitoring programmes?

 

[JPB]

Right now, the Real Temp TjMax is set at 60 and 63.

Is that the problem ?

 

[JPB]

Anyone ?

I know the TJMax for the E7*** series is *suppose* to be 95c. But when I set that, It still seems to reporting the temperatures wrong. I also read on techpowerup that you can actually calibrate RealTemp to read correctly but you need something along the lines of a IR Thermometer or something. Seems a bit too much work just to use RealTemp. Are there ANY programs that read this chips correctly ? I have a feeling that according to my present temps, If I would change out my DDR2 800 ram for DDR2 1066 I could hit 4.0GHz no problem on this chip.

Now...tell me this...the temps that are reported in the bios...are they ALWAYS correct ? Because if they are....I am getting exceedingly good temperatures.

I have yet to still pick up my digital thermometer for my ambient temps..but will do so this week. By the way, my ambient temps are 37c

I have 2 120mm fans *70 CFM each* in a push pull setup and a rear 120mm for exhaust.

 

[WoodButcher]

Re-read the calibration for RT. No IR gun needed, all you need to know is the ambient temp. Otherwise stick with CoreTemp.

 

[JPB]

Ok good point and I just reread it. However....Core Temp is reading my temps as 45c and 42c.

Which I know for a fact isnt right.

 

[JPB]

And why is it when I set the tjmax in Coretemp to 95c.....my temps go to about 200c

 

[WoodButcher]

Read through the last 20 or so pages of this thread. It sounds to me like you have stuck sensors. Where did you get 21C from?for that to be accurate your PC would downclocked / undervolted as in the calibration procedure with the case open and your room temperature around 14 C or 57 F.

This quoted from post #2429 may help you.

To calibrate idle temps for core 2 duo: First set vcore 1.1V bios +/-~.03v and 6x333 mhz manually or leave speedstep enabled. Then set idle so it reads listed degrees above ambient for given cooling:
COOLING...............................IDLE DEGREES ABOVE AMBIENT
High end water...............................6C above ambient
High end air (true push/pull) ........6-7C
High end air (1fan).........................7C
Mid air (zalman 9500)....................8-9C depending on fan rpm
Intel stock cooler...........................10-11C

 

[JPB]

The 21c and 23c is reported in the bios.

 

[WoodButcher]

While your in bios your cpu will run hotter than at idle in windows so that is inaccurate unless your room temps corroberate, the quote above, are results reported by rge over at extreme, he used an IR gun with no heatsink on several cpu, undervolted and clocked down. I also have an IR gun and verified his low temps myself but I wouldn't run my temps up like he did, around August he confirmed TJ max by running chips with no heatsink to the point of shutdown. If you were to read the entire novella unclewebb has going you'll find all this info buried. In the last 20 or so pages you may find mention of the 7200, I'm not sure, but you will read about stuck sensors in the 45nm chips.

 

[JPB]

I have read that the higher the temps go...the more accurate they become.

True ?

When I test the sensors in Coretemp...the results come up at 0....

 

[WoodButcher]

Originally posted by: JPB
I have read that the higher the temps go...the more accurate they become.

True ?

When I test the sensors in Coretemp...the results come up at 0....

For the most part yes. The thermal sensors were / are designed by Intel to protect the chip from self destruction, nothing else, this is Intels' claim. They have stated that the sensors are inaccurate and adjusted individually at the factory so each chip is different but will shut down before burning up. From testing of many different chips and comparing results at XS UncleWebb has found that at low MHz and volts all Intel chips will idle within a couple of degrees and this is what they are using as a baseline for calibration. This also varies with ambients but if you do your math right it will be close, so far with the limited info Intel has released and the variances in the chips themselves this is as good as it gets, IMO.
I haven't looked into Coretemp in a while so I couldn't say anything about your result. I run CT alongside RT and they are within 2-3 C, RT reading lower in my case.

 

[JPB]

Also, in the motherboard Gigabyte Easy Tune Utility...it is reporting my temps as 26c.

Gigabyte Easy Tune 6 temps

If I crank the sink fans up to 100% spin, the temps in Easy Tune 6 drop to 21c.

 

[WoodButcher]

PC Probe Reports my cpu at 19-20C,
Room temp is 22-23C
Don't believe it.