Convince me that I should vote for Sen. Kerry

[Riprorin]

The support for Kerry seems really soft. It appears that many people are planning to vote for him just because he's not Pres. Bush.

Please tell me using solid rationale based on Kerry's record why I should vote for him. Please do so without bashing Pres. Bush.

 

[wkabel23]

Why don't you take a long, open-minded look at all of the issues and then decide if you want to vote for Kerry?

As for me, I'm voting for him since I like his "ultra-liberal" views

 

[Strk]

Originally posted by: Riprorin
The support for Kerry seems really soft. It appears that many people that are planning to vote for him just because he's not Pres. Bush.

Please tell me using solid rationale based on Kerry's record why I should vote for him. Please do so without bashing Pres. Bush.

Well, a better way to start this off would be to say what issues are important to you, since there are so many to cover.

 

[AcidicFury]

Originally posted by: Strk

Originally posted by: Riprorin
The support for Kerry seems really soft. It appears that many people that are planning to vote for him just because he's not Pres. Bush.

Please tell me using solid rationale based on Kerry's record why I should vote for him. Please do so without bashing Pres. Bush.

Well, a better way to start this off would be to say what issues are important to you, since there are so many to cover.

Exactly.

 

[Riprorin]

Originally posted by: AcidicFury

Originally posted by: Strk

Originally posted by: Riprorin
The support for Kerry seems really soft. It appears that many people that are planning to vote for him just because he's not Pres. Bush.

Please tell me using solid rationale based on Kerry's record why I should vote for him. Please do so without bashing Pres. Bush.

Well, a better way to start this off would be to say what issues are important to you, since there are so many to cover.

Exactly.

I'm just asking you to make a case for Sen. Kerry relying only on his record without bashing Pres. Bush.

He's had a long career in public service so surely you should be able to point to his record and make a cogent argument as to why you think he should be president.

 

[arsbanned]

The big reason for me is he has actually BEEN in combat before. Yes, he voted to support Bush's adventure in Iraq but Bush snowed nearly everyone in the Senate:

Reflecting the Senate's determination to move ahead, the chamber then voted 95-1 on a procedural motion that clears the way for votes next week. The lone dissenter was Sen. Robert Byrd, D-W.Va.

Link

and when the final vote was cast only 7 out of 50 state delegations voted against it. 7 out of 50. Bush fooled a lot of people.

But-essentially-that is why I will vote for Kerry. He knows what it's like boots on the ground.
Oh yeah, he can actually speak American English. That's a factor.

 

[Riprorin]

Thanks for the reply.

 

[RabidMongoose]

Originally posted by: Riprorin

Originally posted by: AcidicFury

Originally posted by: Strk

Originally posted by: Riprorin
The support for Kerry seems really soft. It appears that many people that are planning to vote for him just because he's not Pres. Bush.

Please tell me using solid rationale based on Kerry's record why I should vote for him. Please do so without bashing Pres. Bush.

Well, a better way to start this off would be to say what issues are important to you, since there are so many to cover.

Exactly.

I'm just asking you to make a case for Sen. Kerry relying only on his record without bashing Pres. Bush.

He's had a long career in public service so surely you should be able to point to his record and make a cogent argument as to why you think he should be president.

Kerry shouldn't be president. It's fairly hard to make a case for someone that you don't really like.

However, I will be voting for him.

 

[glenn1]

The big reason for me is he has actually BEEN in combat before. Yes, he voted to support Bush's adventure in Iraq but Bush snowed nearly everyone in the Senate:

Military service or lack thereof do not make a President a good or bad wartime leader. FDR didn't serve and was a good President, Carter did and was a horrible President. There are plenty enough examples to show that military experience is a poor predictor of Presidential performance.

Heck, I'm not even a Democrat and even I can think of some good reasons to vote for Kerry, surely those of you in his party can do better than citing his 4 months in Vietnam.

 

[Moonbeam]

The Chimp.

 

[Dissipate]

To me it boils down to this:

Bush: statist & collectivist

Kerry: statist & collectivist

Only decent candidate on the ballot is Badnarik.

 

[arsbanned]

glenn1: You will notice, if you actually read it, I said:

The big reason for me

I don't really give a rats as* what YOU think about it. Thanks for the attack though.

 

[chess9]

Riprorin:

There isn't a prayer's chance in Hell you'd vote for Kerry. Who are you kidding? Are you planning on getting major psychoanalysis coupled with huge doses of psychotropic drugs? I didn't think so.

-Robert

 

[glenn1]

glenn1: You will notice, if you actually read it, I said:

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The big reason for me
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I don't really give a rats as* what YOU think about it. Thanks for the attack though.

It wasn't an attack, just a statement of fact. But if you actually read the thread title, what was asked for was not why you're voting for Kerry, but rather a reason for the OP to vote Kerry. Unless you're saying that the reason you cited should not be considered a reason for the OP to vote for Kerry. In which case I'll cede the point so that the OP can more promptly disregard it per your guidance.

 

[Bowfinger]

Originally posted by: Riprorin
The support for Kerry seems really soft. It appears that many people are planning to vote for him just because he's not Pres. Bush.

Please tell me using solid rationale based on Kerry's record why I should vote for him. Please do so without bashing Pres. Bush.

I think support for Kerry is soft. For many people, myself included, the main reason to vote for him is that he is not Bush. It's just that black and white.

Nonetheless, I'll offer a few other reasons why I think Kerry is a better, if uninspiring choice:

• Kerry breaks up the single-party control of the House, Senate, and President. This forces both parties to work together more and helps prevent some of the more outrageous changes.
  
• Kerry can get us out of Iraq more quickly and more cleanly. Kerry does not have to save face, and is far more open to informed, dissenting views. He also has a much better chance of enlisting international support. Right or wrong, Bush is irreparably tainted by his attitude going into the invasion. Much of the world wants to see him fail out of spite.
  
• Kerry will strike a better balance between business and competing concerns, e.g., the environment, energy, civil liberties (yes, in spite of his politically cowardly support of the PATRIOT Act), etc. While Kerry is generally pro-business just like most D.C. politicians, he won't be quite as one-sided.
  
• Kerry will restore more openness and accountability to the White House specifically and federal government in general. I suppose this is a Bush-bash of sorts, but Bush has imposed an unprecedented level of secrecy into the federal government. Kerry will lift the veils, if only because a Republican Congress won't let him operate in secret.

My $0.02. YMMV

 

[Moonbeam]

One big reason to dump the Chimp is because he's a fundy Christian and has an unconscious desire to bring about Armaggeddon, which, with all our new q lar weapons we can do on any given day. We always bring about what we fear. Why vote for Jim Jones Bush. The fundy god is just the devil. Don't vote for him. He'll get too many votes as it is.

 

[onelove]

this thread has a big foamy wake and some baited hooks dangling behind it...

nonetheless, I'll bite: I don't think it can be done without mentioning Bush. I suppose the other alternative is not to vote, but I don't consider the system SO corrupt and broken as to warrant refraining from participating (yet).

 

[etech]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
One big reason to dump the Chimp is because he's a fundy Christian and has an unconscious desire to bring about Armaggeddon, which, with all our new q lar weapons we can do on any given day. We always bring about what we fear. Why vote for Jim Jones Bush. The fundy god is just the devil. Don't vote for him. He'll get too many votes as it is.

Was that a "moonbeam" reply or did you forget to change screen names again moonie?

A thorough investigation has proven that Moonbeam has only ever had one account here at AnandTech. It is under the name Moonbeam. You may now cease your accusations, etech. They are untrue.

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[Riprorin]

Originally posted by: chess9
Riprorin:

There isn't a prayer's chance in Hell you'd vote for Kerry. Who are you kidding? Are you planning on getting major psychoanalysis coupled with huge doses of psychotropic drugs? I didn't think so.

-Robert

It's been suggested.

 

[Gen Stonewall]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
One big reason to dump the Chimp is because he's a fundy Christian and has an unconscious desire to bring about Armaggeddon, which, with all our new q lar weapons we can do on any given day. We always bring about what we fear. Why vote for Jim Jones Bush. The fundy god is just the devil. Don't vote for him. He'll get too many votes as it is.

Was that sarcasm or a literal speech?

 

[Perknose]

Our house is on fire.

Only two candidates have a hose big enough to put it out. However, one of them started the fire in the first place, and is now actively denying that there is a fire, even as the flames light the night sky.

Now, you want to ask why I will vote for the only guy who has a chance to put that fire out, without mentioning the arsonist?

Riprorin. Wake up and smell the phony war.

Our house is on fire.

 

[dmcowen674]

"Convince me that I should vote for Sen. Kerry"

Shouldn't have to "convince" you. I'm sure Rush, Hannity and CAD & Co have done enough of a good job in brainwashing you not to vote for Kerry. So sad.

 

[chess9]

Riprorin:

Hey, run with that thought!

j/k

-Robert

 

[Phokus]

The only reason i can think of is to have enough gridlock to stop this out of control drunken sailor republican congress/president from increasing the federal government anymore than it is already. I'm seriously thinking of voting kerry on these grounds.

 

[Lonyo]

Originally posted by: etech

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
One big reason to dump the Chimp is because he's a fundy Christian and has an unconscious desire to bring about Armaggeddon, which, with all our new q lar weapons we can do on any given day. We always bring about what we fear. Why vote for Jim Jones Bush. The fundy god is just the devil. Don't vote for him. He'll get too many votes as it is.

Was that a "moonbeam" reply or did you forget to change screen names again moonie?

A thorough investigation has proven that Moonbeam has only ever had one account here at AnandTech. It is under the name Moonbeam. You may now cease your accusations, etech. They are untrue.

AnandTech Moderator

pwned.