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"Convert or die!" What would you do?

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When you can defeat any jew or muslim with logic to heighten their fervor because you dismantle the false lies they have been told since birth then more than likely they would not force convert you.

FACT 1. Classic Arab/Jewish text(1,000 years old) agree that Allah and God are one and the same.
FACT 2. Todays modern Jesuits still claim they are the ones who introduced a new muslim faith to counteract the jewish faith because possible jealous of one people having something over another who do not. Jesuits are called crypto jews. Jesuits modus operandi are to go to any catholic schools and point their goals in a new direction to mislead and such. Who knows maybe mohammad is the #1 decoption in human history if true what is said about the jesuits.

That would be a good trick given that the Jesuits didn't exists before 1534 and Islam was started around 610.

btw, does the number 420 mean anything to you and are you interested in anarchism?
 

smitbret

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So says ISIS in Northern Iraq.


This question applies to all people here including non-religious people who do not believe in God. Well, all people except for any Sunni Muslims here (go to hell!) :)

So would you be a martyr for your faith?

Would you convert and accept Islam?

Would you convert then convert back to your previous religion when the time is right and safe?

If you are an Atheist would you lie that you are of a certain religion then convert but secretly you will be living the lie until its safe.

As an Atheist would you say that you are non religious and probably get a bullet in the head on the spot?

As an atheist, i wouldn't hesitate to lie. I will lie and submit to anything that will ultimately save my life. Even if i do accept any religion it wont matter to me cause it doesn't have any value in my life. In fact, i got baptized because a good friend of mine asked me to be his best man and he was a baptized Orthodox. This technically makes me and orthodox but i dont feel it that way, so i doesn't really matter to me.

QFT

If I'm an Atheist and I lie, who's gonna punish me in the afterlife? Of course I say I convert.

Since there is no moral dilemma, that shouldn't be a difficult question for any atheist.

I was raised Mormon and as far as I know they still have me on their membership roles. I could write them to be removed, but then I feel like that would almost be an endorsement of legitimacy for their "club". Being Muslim would be no different and I would only put as much effort into it as is necessary to improve my own life. As soon as the Catholics go crazy again and hold another inquisition I will whip out my mother-in-law's rosary beads and start praying to Mary.
 
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piasabird

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I could see faking it. However, I don't know what I would do. Being forced to be religious is just so fake. Real conversion occurs in a person's heart and mind. Without freedom of religion, you are not free.
 

sm625

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It's a bunch of meaningless nonsense anyway. How can anyone prove whether they truly believe when what they believe ultimately cannot be proven or disproven anyway?

We face the same type of situation in the US as well, we just dont realize it. We think we live in a free country, but you just try not paying taxes and see how free you are, even on your own property, that you supposedly "own" free and clear. Hahaha they will come at you with tanks and SWAT teams. How is that different from "convert or die"? But people accept this tyranny, even though it is obviously totally opposite what this country was founded on. It doesnt end with property rights either. You see this same dilemma across a wide range of issues. In each case, people willingly submit to forces that are, at their core, no different from ISIS.
 

Muse

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I'd get the next flight or train out of there. I wouldn't care to live where they kill you if you don't profess to believe what they insist you believe. Fortunately, most of the planet is not that retarded.
i will fight till the death
Isis' leader said they will do just that, to the last man (English translation). They really are nuts.
 
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ringtail

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I'd rip the heart and lungs of the questioner out the hole in his penis, then relieve him of that too

and I'd do it fast as Bruce Lee