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Controversial Movie Fitna by Geert Wilders' about the Quran released

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Socio

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Originally posted by: Socio
Originally posted by: Butterbean
Michale Savage site has it:

http://www.michaelsavage.com/


Michelle Malkin too

http://michellemalkin.com/


Google Video:


http://video.google.com/videop...&type=search&plindex=3
I found it on bit torrent as well so it looks like it got spread to fast and it is not going away which is good!

There is another one due to be released April 20th as well about The Life of Mohammed;

Second Islam Film: Mohammed as Peadophile

THE HAGUE, 28/03/08 - While the cabinet is losing sleep over MP Geert Wilders' unpublished Koran film, a second film is due out on 20 April. Ehsan Jami plans to launch a cartoon film featuring the Prophet Mohammed as a paedophile.

Jami, born in Iran, announced that his film, The Life of Mohammed, is due for release on 20 April. On TV programme Netwerk, the young politician (22) showed a screen-shot in which the Prophet, with a visible erection, takes a child to a mosque to have sex. On the mosque is a swastika.

The fragment is a reference to the relationship between the prophet and the 9 year old Aisha as described in the Koran, according to Jami. His cartoon portrays all kinds of other perverse and violent verses, he added.

Jami set up a committee last September that aims to encourage leaving Islam and protect apostate Muslims.
I hope it gets released it would be a win for freedom of speech and expression however I doubt it will as Islam seems to have the Western World by the nuts and is making us its puppet.
For the curious this is supposed to be a rough frame from this up coming movie:

rough frame from the movie.

Even though it is based on the real life of Mohammed I imagine this movie is really going to piss some people off.

Truth is going to hurt I am thinking.
 

Throckmorton

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The video is obviously just meant to incite unrest, but the fact that hosters of this video are receiving threats says a lot.
 

sandorski

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Originally posted by: Throckmorton
The video is obviously just meant to incite unrest, but the fact that hosters of this video are receiving threats says a lot.
Just like the Death threats to the Dixie Chicks and others opposing the Iraq War.
 

Throckmorton

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Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: Throckmorton
The video is obviously just meant to incite unrest, but the fact that hosters of this video are receiving threats says a lot.
Just like the Death threats to the Dixie Chicks and others opposing the Iraq War.
Exactly.
 

beyoku

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Originally posted by: miniMUNCH
I have met many pretty awesome muslim folks... peaceful, compassionate, caring, virtuous... they have my deepest respect and regard.

That being said, my mom and dad used to be muslim a while back so I know all too well how a significant portion of muslim think, talk, and plan. There is a whole lot of hatred in Islam. Violence is often glorified. And from what I know, and a ton that my father experienced and heard... there is a sigificant movement in Islam to dominate other peoples and, particularly, western societies.

Islam to me is a two headed religion, like Christianity in many respects, there are genuinely awesome people to be found and there are crazies... what is alarming to me is how many crazies there are in Islam, even in the US.

So I, for one, am not going to cowtow to Muslim folks who say their religion is misunderstood and defamed (and by extension, need to stop 'bashing')... in my opinion it is not true, your religion is defamed by the actions and words of it's own leaders and peoples. E.G. Videos from muslim areas of the world of masses of peoples dancing around and praising Allah when the twin towers were hit (that is beyond disgusting). In my experience and personal knowledge... that is closer to the face and purpose of Islam than the peaceful religion folks in it's sold as in the west. I'm sorry... but I know too much of the talk, and my dad wwwwaaaayyy too much, that goes on behind closed doors in some Islamic gatherings, etc. so I know what a lot of folks really want to go down.

Oh... and women and non muslim peoples are often treated like shit in a lot of muslim societies when they can get away with it... so don't give me that bullshit. Go spend some time in the middle east or northern Africa and you will see for yourself.
I remember people in Times Square celebrating when bombs were dropped on Downtown Baghdad at the start of the war. :( I remember calling one of my inlaws and he was also dancing around celebrating. Do you think that has anything to do with Christianity?
 

silverpig

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Originally posted by: beyoku
Originally posted by: miniMUNCH
I have met many pretty awesome muslim folks... peaceful, compassionate, caring, virtuous... they have my deepest respect and regard.

That being said, my mom and dad used to be muslim a while back so I know all too well how a significant portion of muslim think, talk, and plan. There is a whole lot of hatred in Islam. Violence is often glorified. And from what I know, and a ton that my father experienced and heard... there is a sigificant movement in Islam to dominate other peoples and, particularly, western societies.

Islam to me is a two headed religion, like Christianity in many respects, there are genuinely awesome people to be found and there are crazies... what is alarming to me is how many crazies there are in Islam, even in the US.

So I, for one, am not going to cowtow to Muslim folks who say their religion is misunderstood and defamed (and by extension, need to stop 'bashing')... in my opinion it is not true, your religion is defamed by the actions and words of it's own leaders and peoples. E.G. Videos from muslim areas of the world of masses of peoples dancing around and praising Allah when the twin towers were hit (that is beyond disgusting). In my experience and personal knowledge... that is closer to the face and purpose of Islam than the peaceful religion folks in it's sold as in the west. I'm sorry... but I know too much of the talk, and my dad wwwwaaaayyy too much, that goes on behind closed doors in some Islamic gatherings, etc. so I know what a lot of folks really want to go down.

Oh... and women and non muslim peoples are often treated like shit in a lot of muslim societies when they can get away with it... so don't give me that bullshit. Go spend some time in the middle east or northern Africa and you will see for yourself.
I remember people in Times Square celebrating when bombs were dropped on Downtown Baghdad at the start of the war. :( I remember calling one of my inlaws and he was also dancing around celebrating. Do you think that has anything to do with Christianity?
I thought a bunch of those videos of people in the middle east dancing around were faked? (ie, filmed months earlier and taken from archives, or where some reporter gave the children candy to dance around). Sure some might have been real, but I dunno...

 

HeXploiT

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Fear mongering. Why should I fear radical islamists anymore than all the other murdering ideologies/beliefs/cults around the word? They all want to kill me. Radical Islam is an asset for the socialist state in training that needs citizens to forfeit their rights in order to take control. If the radical islamists end goal is to have me forfeit my rights then shouldn't I fight against them? And if I refuse to give up my rights to radical Islamists then why would I do so for the United States government? What logic is that?
 

Throckmorton

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Originally posted by: Perry404
Fear mongering. Why should I fear radical islamists anymore than all the other murdering ideologies/beliefs/cults around the word? They all want to kill me. Radical Islam is an asset for the socialist state in training that needs citizens to forfeit their rights in order to take control. If the radical islamists end goal is to have me forfeit my rights then shouldn't I fight against them? And if I refuse to give up my rights to radical Islamists then why would I do so for the United States government? What logic is that?
Socialist? You mean fascist. There is nothing socialist about Islamic theocracies in the Middle East.
 

HeXploiT

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Originally posted by: Throckmorton
Originally posted by: Perry404
Fear mongering. Why should I fear radical islamists anymore than all the other murdering ideologies/beliefs/cults around the word? They all want to kill me. Radical Islam is an asset for the socialist state in training that needs citizens to forfeit their rights in order to take control. If the radical islamists end goal is to have me forfeit my rights then shouldn't I fight against them? And if I refuse to give up my rights to radical Islamists then why would I do so for the United States government? What logic is that?
Socialist? You mean fascist. There is nothing socialist about Islamic theocracies in the Middle East.
I was referring to the Unites States and the fact that we use radical Islam and an asset to forward our own increasingly socialist agenda.
 

Socio

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Looks like Youtoube is starting to feel some heat over the Fitna movie now:

YouTube Warned to Remove Koran Film

(CNSNews.com) - The government of the world's most populous Islamic state says YouTube has two days to take down a Dutch lawmaker's provocative film on the Koran or it will block access to the popular video-sharing Web site.

The warning by Indonesia came as the U.N.'s primary human rights watchdog ended a month-long session amid allegations by Western member-states and non-governmental organizations that Islamic nations are working to curtail free speech.
It will be interesting to see if they fold and remove all uploads of it or not.
 

ManBearPig

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As a human, this makes me angry. As a Jewish person, I'm furious. Really does make my blood boil. Fuck those people.
 

Nemesis 1

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I would sugjest you guys searh on the quran. It was wrote on leaves cloth whatever it was a miss The orginal text was NEVER I repeat never assemble. That was the orginal written by the great mohammed A murdering madman Who could neither read or write. The second copy not the orginal was burned. Buy the way He believed he was the ruler that John wrote about . He that rules the world with a Rod of Iron (Sword).

Any one know when the quran was published. I believe it has 1100 something AD. So what took so long for the great lie to be published. Its much like the new testment in the Bible written centuries after Christ resurrected. It to had its false prophet like mohammed but his name was Saul/Paul . Who picked out a new name for himself (John prophecy.) Christ was the fulfillment of the law the completion of the covenant between God and jew. Christ clearly says only 1 more prophet from God was to come. So who was this prophet or when will he appear. It wasn't SAul/Paul so that proves he wasn't real . Moslems except Christ as a great prophet but ignore his teachings same as christians. If you kill on purpose your not one of Gods children. But how than do you stop a Hitler???? Put faith in GOD????

It wasn't Joey Smith . But Smith was a very strange case and I have to question his teachings. But I won't reject them .

The last 2 witnesses of God are alive today but are silent for the time being. When they speaks will know it. Because this one brings on the King of Kings . He will bring nothing but death and destruction . Its can't happen soon enough. When I see the coastal cities flooded and earth Shakes like the world hasn't known in mankinds time. And much more. That is foretold by John . This is your witness or prophet if you preferr. All these things shall hurt me because the judgement seems so harsh . But when Rome is destroyed . When Peter of Rome is Pope . This will be the end of these times praise the lord. The present pope is the last before peter of rome. Its not my prediction. But if it does happen that peter of rome is the next pope. Than we will know who the last prophet was. It would be Malachy. Do a search Malachy prophecy . Which would indeed hold true to the ending times and would make the 2 witnessess of the ending times just that winessess. Not prophets. So if the next Pope is named Peter of Rome be very very scarred if your a non believer.

Its going to be ugly no matter what the case. But not as ugly as mankind and cleaned up earth would be nice. What even more interesting is the time line. Revolations says that a new city comes down from heaven (The Sky) And Christ shall rule over them for 1000 years. its the year 2008 now . add on 1000 years to that + a few + a few for Satans last attempt to tempt man. It is at this time flesh becomes spirit for all time.

Whats interesting to me is Nostradamus says in the year 2012 a comet hits earth target is likely Rome. He also predicts earths end in the year 3797. So it is indeed an interesting time line.

I certainly don't know the trueth . But If one reads up on all seers. Its very interesting. 2012 is the beginning of something hugh what who knows? It is only 4 years to find out.

I hope that evil is laid to rest . Time how much is there?


http://www.spartechsoftware.co...al/Nostradamus.htm#WTC This is the best of it as far as interpetations Go . Norman Rockefeller It fits my theory behind 9/11
 

sandorski

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Originally posted by: Kazaam
As a human, this makes me angry. As a Jewish person, I'm furious. Really does make my blood boil. Fuck those people.
Don't let lies and misquotes lead you astray.
 

ManBearPig

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Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: Kazaam
As a human, this makes me angry. As a Jewish person, I'm furious. Really does make my blood boil. Fuck those people.
Don't let lies and misquotes lead you astray.
Uh, no. I know many nice Muslims and I know of many that hate us. I am a Persian Jew. A lot of my family lives in Israel and have been attacked before...not being lied to. This was my stance before this video.
 

sandorski

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Originally posted by: Kazaam
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: Kazaam
As a human, this makes me angry. As a Jewish person, I'm furious. Really does make my blood boil. Fuck those people.
Don't let lies and misquotes lead you astray.
Uh, no. I know many nice Muslims and I know of many that hate us. I am a Persian Jew. A lot of my family lives in Israel and have been attacked before...not being lied to. This was my stance before this video.
This film doesn't make a distinction between "Good" or "Bad" Muslims. It is a propaganda piece against all Muslims.
 

DangerAardvark

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Originally posted by: Siddhartha
Every Islam is evil thread I read reinforces my certainty of the importance of living in a secular state that maintains a strong separation of Church and State. If you give any religion political power it starts insisting that everyone follow their rules.

You can practice any religion you want just keep it to yourself.
Indeed. Has a theocracy EVER turned out well? Without exception, theocracies end up enslaving their women, torturing and killing their heretics, oppressing minorities and impeding science.
 

magomago

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Originally posted by: Nemesis 1
I would sugjest you guys searh on the quran. It was wrote on leaves cloth whatever it was a miss The orginal text was NEVER I repeat never assemble. That was the orginal written by the great mohammed A murdering madman Who could neither read or write. The second copy not the orginal was burned. Buy the way He believed he was the ruler that John wrote about . He that rules the world with a Rod of Iron (Sword).
Uhhh English please? I'll bit on the rest of this while trying (emphasis on trying) not to make you look stupid.
Any one know when the quran was published. I believe it has 1100 something AD. So what took so long for the great lie to be published. Its much like the new testment in the Bible written centuries after Christ resurrected. It to had its false prophet like mohammed but his name was Saul/Paul . Who picked out a new name for himself (John prophecy.) Christ was the fulfillment of the law the completion of the covenant between God and jew. Christ clearly says only 1 more prophet from God was to come. So who was this prophet or when will he appear. It wasn't SAul/Paul so that proves he wasn't real . Moslems except Christ as a great prophet but ignore his teachings same as christians. If you kill on purpose your not one of Gods children. But how than do you stop a Hitler???? Put faith in GOD????
1100 AD? HHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHAHAHA. This is like saying Colombus sailed to the new world in 567AD!
One can discuss the "Creation" or time at which the Quran was assembled from an objective POV, but even then we are looking at the 600s....not 1100AD.
It wasn't Joey Smith . But Smith was a very strange case and I have to question his teachings. But I won't reject them .

The last 2 witnesses of God are alive today but are silent for the time being. When they speaks will know it. Because this one brings on the King of Kings . He will bring nothing but death and destruction . Its can't happen soon enough. When I see the coastal cities flooded and earth Shakes like the world hasn't known in mankinds time. And much more. That is foretold by John . This is your witness or prophet if you preferr. All these things shall hurt me because the judgement seems so harsh . But when Rome is destroyed . When Peter of Rome is Pope . This will be the end of these times praise the lord. The present pope is the last before peter of rome. Its not my prediction. But if it does happen that peter of rome is the next pope. Than we will know who the last prophet was. It would be Malachy. Do a search Malachy prophecy . Which would indeed hold true to the ending times and would make the 2 witnessess of the ending times just that winessess. Not prophets. So if the next Pope is named Peter of Rome be very very scarred if your a non believer.
Okay thank you for the psycho blabber and proof that the world is going to end. Why is that people always say the world has to end in their time?
Its going to be ugly no matter what the case. But not as ugly as mankind and cleaned up earth would be nice. What even more interesting is the time line. Revolations says that a new city comes down from heaven (The Sky) And Christ shall rule over them for 1000 years. its the year 2008 now . add on 1000 years to that + a few + a few for Satans last attempt to tempt man. It is at this time flesh becomes spirit for all time.

Whats interesting to me is Nostradamus says in the year 2012 a comet hits earth target is likely Rome. He also predicts earths end in the year 3797. So it is indeed an interesting time line.
And Nostradamus was a charlatan who sold entertainment. Somehow people attribute the most vague lines to specific events as if it was gospel. Nice to see what you take as truth though - Quatrains are just for entertainment and the man made a killing off of it!

I certainly don't know the trueth . But If one reads up on all seers. Its very interesting. 2012 is the beginning of something hugh what who knows? It is only 4 years to find out.

I hope that evil is laid to rest . Time how much is there?
Time how much I do not know. But the truth indeed not you know.

http://www.spartechsoftware.co...al/Nostradamus.htm#WTC This is the best of it as far as interpetations Go . Norman Rockefeller It fits my theory behind 9/11
oooookay...this is a good example of what is talked about in that conspiracy thread...
 

Nemesis 1

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Originally posted by: magomago
Originally posted by: Nemesis 1
I would sugjest you guys searh on the quran. It was wrote on leaves cloth whatever it was a miss The orginal text was NEVER I repeat never assemble. That was the orginal written by the great mohammed A murdering madman Who could neither read or write. The second copy not the orginal was burned. Buy the way He believed he was the ruler that John wrote about . He that rules the world with a Rod of Iron (Sword).
Uhhh English please? I'll bit on the rest of this while trying (emphasis on trying) not to make you look stupid. Good Luck with that . Proof please Date Koran was completed or do you want me o get links
Any one know when the quran was published. I believe it has 1100 something AD. So what took so long for the great lie to be published. Its much like the new testment in the Bible written centuries after Christ resurrected. It to had its false prophet like mohammed but his name was Saul/Paul . Who picked out a new name for himself (John prophecy.) Christ was the fulfillment of the law the completion of the covenant between God and jew. Christ clearly says only 1 more prophet from God was to come. So who was this prophet or when will he appear. It wasn't SAul/Paul so that proves he wasn't real . Moslems except Christ as a great prophet but ignore his teachings same as christians. If you kill on purpose your not one of Gods children. But how than do you stop a Hitler???? Put faith in GOD????
1100 AD? HHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHAHAHA. This is like saying Colombus sailed to the new world in 567
One can discuss the "Creation" or time at which the Quran was assembled from an objective POV, but even then we are looking at the 600s....not 1100AD. A complete lie. Just like Mohammed Ali refussing to go to nam. Saying it was against his religion . OK sounds sweet. But another lie. But its OK to beat a man to death in a boxing ring for big $$$$. Give it up .
It wasn't Joey Smith . But Smith was a very strange case and I have to question his teachings. But I won't reject them .

The last 2 witnesses of God are alive today but are silent for the time being. When they speaks will know it. Because this one brings on the King of Kings . He will bring nothing but death and destruction . Its can't happen soon enough. When I see the coastal cities flooded and earth Shakes like the world hasn't known in mankinds time. And much more. That is foretold by John . This is your witness or prophet if you preferr. All these things shall hurt me because the judgement seems so harsh . But when Rome is destroyed . When Peter of Rome is Pope . This will be the end of these times praise the lord. The present pope is the last before peter of rome. Its not my prediction. But if it does happen that peter of rome is the next pope. Than we will know who the last prophet was. It would be Malachy. Do a search Malachy prophecy . Which would indeed hold true to the ending times and would make the 2 witnessess of the ending times just that winessess. Not prophets. So if the next Pope is named Peter of Rome be very very scarred if your a non believer.
Okay thank you for the psycho blabber and proof that the world is going to end. Why is that people always say the world has to end in their time? Look at the world the time is short world resources are drying up . Overpopulation . I really didn't mean to say it was world ending times . But its the end for non christian types. ( GOOD people Muslims christians . Anyone who lives a life in a way that Christ discribes. Just be a good person . There is no true Religion anywhere.
Its going to be ugly no matter what the case. But not as ugly as mankind and cleaned up earth would be nice. What even more interesting is the time line. Revolations says that a new city comes down from heaven (The Sky) And Christ shall rule over them for 1000 years. its the year 2008 now . add on 1000 years to that + a few + a few for Satans last attempt to tempt man. It is at this time flesh becomes spirit for all time.

Whats interesting to me is Nostradamus says in the year 2012 a comet hits earth target is likely Rome. He also predicts earths end in the year 3797. So it is indeed an interesting time line.
And Nostradamus was a charlatan who sold entertainment. Somehow people attribute the most vague lines to specific events as if it was gospel. Nice to see what you take as truth though - Quatrains are just for entertainment and the man made a killing off of it! Nice comprehension I clearly state I don't know the trueth yet you accuse others of misquoteing the quran.

I certainly don't know the trueth . But If one reads up on all seers. Its very interesting. 2012 is the beginning of something hugh what who knows? It is only 4 years to find out.

I hope that evil is laid to rest . Time how much is there?
Time how much I do not know. But the truth indeed not you know. I have said this a few times. Please tell me the trueth.

http://www.spartechsoftware.co...al/Nostradamus.htm#WTC This is the best of it as far as interpetations Go . Norman Rockefeller It fits my theory behind 9/11
oooookay...this is a good example of what is talked about in that conspiracy thread... So explain yourself here? SO do you believe it was a conspiracy or is it you believe it was Moslems that mis interrputed the Quran ?
Which is it . either way ya ans. its going to go badly.

 

teclis1023

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well, son of a bitch...I agree with magomago.

I know what it's like to have people spread inaccuracies about my religion, and I sure don't appreciate it when people do it about other religions either.
 

miniMUNCH

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Originally posted by: silverpig
Originally posted by: beyoku
Originally posted by: miniMUNCH
I have met many pretty awesome muslim folks... peaceful, compassionate, caring, virtuous... they have my deepest respect and regard.

That being said, my mom and dad used to be muslim a while back so I know all too well how a significant portion of muslim think, talk, and plan. There is a whole lot of hatred in Islam. Violence is often glorified. And from what I know, and a ton that my father experienced and heard... there is a sigificant movement in Islam to dominate other peoples and, particularly, western societies.

Islam to me is a two headed religion, like Christianity in many respects, there are genuinely awesome people to be found and there are crazies... what is alarming to me is how many crazies there are in Islam, even in the US.

So I, for one, am not going to cowtow to Muslim folks who say their religion is misunderstood and defamed (and by extension, need to stop 'bashing')... in my opinion it is not true, your religion is defamed by the actions and words of it's own leaders and peoples. E.G. Videos from muslim areas of the world of masses of peoples dancing around and praising Allah when the twin towers were hit (that is beyond disgusting). In my experience and personal knowledge... that is closer to the face and purpose of Islam than the peaceful religion folks in it's sold as in the west. I'm sorry... but I know too much of the talk, and my dad wwwwaaaayyy too much, that goes on behind closed doors in some Islamic gatherings, etc. so I know what a lot of folks really want to go down.

Oh... and women and non muslim peoples are often treated like shit in a lot of muslim societies when they can get away with it... so don't give me that bullshit. Go spend some time in the middle east or northern Africa and you will see for yourself.
I remember people in Times Square celebrating when bombs were dropped on Downtown Baghdad at the start of the war. :( I remember calling one of my inlaws and he was also dancing around celebrating. Do you think that has anything to do with Christianity?
I thought a bunch of those videos of people in the middle east dancing around were faked? (ie, filmed months earlier and taken from archives, or where some reporter gave the children candy to dance around). Sure some might have been real, but I dunno...
One of my good friends was in Lebanon on 9/11 and, according to his firsthand accounts, there were mass celebrations going on all over the place... muslims were celebrating en mass. Stuff from some of the other places coulda been faked, i suppose, but I doubt it.
 

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