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soccerballtux

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Recently I've taken to drinking lots of 2% and Nesquik. Very tasty. I'm nowhere near overweight. I'm working out every other day, drinking whey protein shakes, etc....

But I've heard that consuming massive amounts of sugar can cause Diabetes.

I'm not going to let myself get fat. I plan on continuing to work out for quite some time; I'll be swimming again when I have a more predictable schedule. So my question is... is it safe to keep drinking a glass of Nesquik/day? Most of the diabetic people are fat....so my thinking is if you're not fat, are in shape/muscular/working out, and plan to stay so, you should be safe from diabetes. Is this the case?
 
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futuristicmonkey

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Originally posted by: soccerballtux
Recently I've taken to drinking lots of 2% and Nesquik. Very tasty. I'm nowhere near overweight. I'm working out every other day, drinking whey protein shakes, etc....

But I've heard that consuming massive amounts of sugar can cause Diabetes.

I'm not going to let myself get fat. I plan on continuing to work out for quite some time; I'll be swimming again when I have a more predictable schedule. So my question is... is it safe to keep drinking a glass of Nesquik/day? Most of the diabetic people are fat....so my thinking is if you're not fat, are in shape/muscular/working out, and plan to stay so, you should be safe from diabetes. Is this the case?
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Type 1 diabetic responding here.

There are different types of diabetes; two and half, specifically.

Type one, the kind which I have, is generally thought to be caused by genetics. If diabetes is not in your family then chances are you're not going to be diagnosed with it. This is the juvenile diabetes - it's normal onset is during a person's early years; i was diagnosed when I was 7.

Type two, on the other hand, is the 'fat' diabetes: while I haven't gone to any symposiums lately, I believe that it occurs when you're liver has been badly abused (converting alcohols and sugars, specifically) and generally occurs in adults in bad health. You'll want to ask a doctor for more concrete facts - hut this is the jist of it.

Oh, and the 2 and a half types refers to the fact that some pregnant women develop what is referred to as gestational diabetes while pregnant. It tends to go away, but I know a teacher that had it re-occur in her.

My guess is you're only at risk for type 2 diabetes, if you have not developed type 1 yet. And the way it works is that diabetes only occurs in really unhealthy people. I wouldn't worry, if i was you. :)

Also, few more facts here, to technicalize this response - type 1 is where your liver's islet cells (that produce insulin) completely shuts down (after a one or two month 'honey-moon' where it operates at about 10%). This is the insulin-dependent diabetes - I have to take needles to replace the insulin i don;t produce anymore. Type 2 is a weird one - all I remember is that your body's insulin-absorption is messed up - and so you need to take pills to help it.

Bottom line: I wouldn't worry. :)
 
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CycloWizard

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My research advisor is a diabetic MD who developed diabetes later in life. He attributed it to a period of poor diet and lack of exercise. The way he explains it, having high sugar concentrations in your body causes many bad things to happen, including an eventual tolerance to insulin. He has to give himself shots just about every day to regulate himself. Interestingly, high sugar levels have also been shown to cause cataracts, at least in animal models. I'm not exactly sure how this relates to your case, but maybe it's helpful info.
 
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snes tor

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I would think if you excersied your body would burn the sugar for energy instead of store it.
 
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Adn4n

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I think you're overreacting. If you think that one glass of nesquick per day will give you diabetes, then there is no hope. You didn't give into the SARS, Avian Flu, Madcow thing either did you?
 
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Gannon

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Originally posted by: CycloWizard
My research advisor is a diabetic MD who developed diabetes later in life. He attributed it to a period of poor diet and lack of exercise. The way he explains it, having high sugar concentrations in your body causes many bad things to happen, including an eventual tolerance to insulin. He has to give himself shots just about every day to regulate himself. Interestingly, high sugar levels have also been shown to cause cataracts, at least in animal models. I'm not exactly sure how this relates to your case, but maybe it's helpful info.
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Yeah but almost all foods are sugars in some way or another, carbohydrates, starches, etc. The fact is modern diets have plenty of sugar in them. What this guy is worried about is nonsense.

Maybe he should check the American diabetes association?

http://www.diabetes.org/diabetes-myths.jsp
 
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alpha88

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While your questions have sorta been answered, I'll just throw in my two cents.

First, Type I diabetes is pretty much just something that you get, and isn't related to diet/excercise. (Although, once you do get it, diet and exercise become much more important)

Type II diabetes occurs when your cells become less responsive to insulin. Here is a brief outline of how it happens.

1) You eat a big meal and your blood sugar rises.
2) Your pancreas responds by secreting insulin.
3) Insulin interacts with receptors on liver and fat cells and causes them to absorb glucose from your blood (lowers your blood sugar) and store it as glycogen or fat.

However, these receptors seem to "wear out" with use, somewhat like knees do. The amount of use that causes them to wear out is highly variable (genetics), so not everyone who has risk factors will develop diabetes.

So problems occur when insulin dependent uptake of glucose if over worked.

This needs the following combination (must have all 3):
a) Too much blood sugar, too often (bad diet, not necessarily too much calories)
b) Insufficient exercise for the amount of food eaten. Muscles lower blood sugar without using insulin, so when you exercise, your muscles are active in lowering blood sugar, not insulin dependent methods in liver and fat cells.
c) Genetics variations.
 
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Gigantopithecus

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Originally posted by: alpha88
This needs the following combination (must have all 3):
a) Too much blood sugar, too often (bad diet, not necessarily too much calories)
b) Insufficient exercise for the amount of food eaten. Muscles lower blood sugar without using insulin, so when you exercise, your muscles are active in lowering blood sugar, not insulin dependent methods in liver and fat cells.
c) Genetics variations.
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Excellent summary.

OP, you don't need to worry about developing diabetes from drinking a glass of Nesquik every day if you're a fairly active person.

 
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