Consumer Reports: Most reliable cars

NFS4

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Of the 32 car models with the highest reliability ratings, 29 were from Japan-based manufacturers. Toyota, with 16, and Honda, with 7, had the most vehicles with top reliability ratings. South Korean automaker Hyundai's Sonata earned a top spot in the ratings this year, a first for that manufacturer.

:p
 

poopaskoopa

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Maintaining Euro cars is part of the experience. All the time and money you'll spend at the dealer's shop will make you close to your car.
 

Pliablemoose

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I don't understand the reliability differences between the Golf & the New Beetle, don't they share virtually everything but the sheet metal?
 

Doggiedog

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Funny how when you slap a supercharger onto a Grand Prix it goes from most reliable to least reliable. Either its a completely different car or the rental car companies stuff the ballot box with positive reviews.
 

freebee

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Now why can't Toyota and Honda make a vehicle like the LR3?...instead of these ugly, pansy highlanders and pilots. Closest is the 4runner, and thats not nearly as well styled as the Land rovers.
 

NFS4

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Originally posted by: freebee
Now why can't Toyota and Honda make a vehicle like the LR3?...instead of these ugly, pansy highlanders and pilots. Closest is the 4runner, and thats not nearly as well styled as the Land rovers.

Nissan Xterra.
 

Rallispec

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Originally posted by: mitaiwan82
:thumbsup: to Honda and Toyota

:thumbsdown: to Korean carmakers

i dont know about you, but i didnt see a single Korean Car on the 'least reliable' side... In another 5 or so years, i think most people will consider korean and japanese cars about even. Hyundai is already as good in my opinion... Kia is definetly getting there.
 

cmdavid

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good. IS300 is still up there.. thats the car i'm still looking at getting in the next few years...
 

Toasthead

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haha do they even do a survey every year, or did they do one a few years back and keep using it. I swear the top 5 and bottom 5 never change.
 

Doggiedog

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Originally posted by: Rallispec
Originally posted by: mitaiwan82
:thumbsup: to Honda and Toyota

:thumbsdown: to Korean carmakers

i dont know about you, but i didnt see a single Korean Car on the 'least reliable' side... In another 5 or so years, i think most people will consider korean and japanese cars about even. Hyundai is already as good in my opinion... Kia is definetly getting there.

Are you kidding? Most people do NOT think Korean cars = Japanese cars in quality. When people think reliable, they think Toyota and Honda not Hyundai or Kia.
 

maddogchen

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Most reliable Least reliable
Lexus IS300 Mercedes-Benz S-Class


Well after seeing this I will definitely not get a Mercedes-Benz S-Class and instead get the IS300 with my giant imaginery lotto winnings ;)

BTW German cars are getting so sophisticated now that they say you might be changing cars in the future not because the engine breaks down but because the computer components of the car got fried.
 

Gulzakar

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bmw always feels so over-engineered. Not that they aren't nice...but it's truly an experience.

 

Rallispec

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Originally posted by: Doggiedog
Originally posted by: Rallispec
Originally posted by: mitaiwan82
:thumbsup: to Honda and Toyota

:thumbsdown: to Korean carmakers

i dont know about you, but i didnt see a single Korean Car on the 'least reliable' side... In another 5 or so years, i think most people will consider korean and japanese cars about even. Hyundai is already as good in my opinion... Kia is definetly getting there.

Are you kidding? Most people do NOT think Korean cars = Japanese cars in quality. When people think reliable, they think Toyota and Honda not Hyundai or Kia.

no, not yet--- but look at the Sonota on the list.


i'm just saying that in 5 or so years, Korean companies will have proven themselves to the US market.
 

RagingBITCH

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Originally posted by: Rallispec
Originally posted by: Doggiedog
Originally posted by: Rallispec
Originally posted by: mitaiwan82
:thumbsup: to Honda and Toyota

:thumbsdown: to Korean carmakers

i dont know about you, but i didnt see a single Korean Car on the 'least reliable' side... In another 5 or so years, i think most people will consider korean and japanese cars about even. Hyundai is already as good in my opinion... Kia is definetly getting there.

Are you kidding? Most people do NOT think Korean cars = Japanese cars in quality. When people think reliable, they think Toyota and Honda not Hyundai or Kia.

no, not yet--- but look at the Sonota on the list.


i'm just saying that in 5 or so years, Korean companies will have proven themselves to the US market.

They will never do that by offering their cars well below the prices of Honda or Toyota for similarly equipped cars, nor will they do that by continuing to offer their ridiculous 10 year warranties.
 

Doggiedog

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Originally posted by: Rallispec
Originally posted by: Doggiedog
Originally posted by: Rallispec
Originally posted by: mitaiwan82
:thumbsup: to Honda and Toyota

:thumbsdown: to Korean carmakers

i dont know about you, but i didnt see a single Korean Car on the 'least reliable' side... In another 5 or so years, i think most people will consider korean and japanese cars about even. Hyundai is already as good in my opinion... Kia is definetly getting there.

Are you kidding? Most people do NOT think Korean cars = Japanese cars in quality. When people think reliable, they think Toyota and Honda not Hyundai or Kia.

no, not yet--- but look at the Sonota on the list.


i'm just saying that in 5 or so years, Korean companies will have proven themselves to the US market.

Perhaps but they are still way behind in technology. What will happen when they need to build more sophisticated cars? Who knows. Its a long learning process. They may take a step back before moving forward.
 

SuperTool

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Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Originally posted by: Rallispec
Originally posted by: Doggiedog
Originally posted by: Rallispec
Originally posted by: mitaiwan82
:thumbsup: to Honda and Toyota

:thumbsdown: to Korean carmakers

i dont know about you, but i didnt see a single Korean Car on the 'least reliable' side... In another 5 or so years, i think most people will consider korean and japanese cars about even. Hyundai is already as good in my opinion... Kia is definetly getting there.

Are you kidding? Most people do NOT think Korean cars = Japanese cars in quality. When people think reliable, they think Toyota and Honda not Hyundai or Kia.

no, not yet--- but look at the Sonota on the list.


i'm just saying that in 5 or so years, Korean companies will have proven themselves to the US market.

They will never do that by offering their cars well below the prices of Honda or Toyota for similarly equipped cars, nor will they do that by continuing to offer their ridiculous 10 year warranties.

Actually low margins and 10 year warranty is a good incentive to keep warranty repairs down by improving quality.
 

Doggiedog

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With Toyota nipping at their heels with the Scion, you wonder how long it will be until they start cutting corners in quality to keep up in pricing.
 

RagingBITCH

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Originally posted by: SuperTool
Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Originally posted by: Rallispec
Originally posted by: Doggiedog
Originally posted by: Rallispec
Originally posted by: mitaiwan82
:thumbsup: to Honda and Toyota

:thumbsdown: to Korean carmakers

i dont know about you, but i didnt see a single Korean Car on the 'least reliable' side... In another 5 or so years, i think most people will consider korean and japanese cars about even. Hyundai is already as good in my opinion... Kia is definetly getting there.

Are you kidding? Most people do NOT think Korean cars = Japanese cars in quality. When people think reliable, they think Toyota and Honda not Hyundai or Kia.

no, not yet--- but look at the Sonota on the list.


i'm just saying that in 5 or so years, Korean companies will have proven themselves to the US market.

They will never do that by offering their cars well below the prices of Honda or Toyota for similarly equipped cars, nor will they do that by continuing to offer their ridiculous 10 year warranties.

Actually low margins and 10 year warranty is a good incentive to keep warranty repairs down by improving quality.

Well I think it's fairly evident that they're trying to improve quality....it's not like they're trying to make it worse :p
 

Kelemvor

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Neat info in the Sedan area.

Most reliable Sedans:
...Pontiac Grand Prix

Lease reliable Sedans:
...Pontiac Grand Prix (supercharged)

Guess they need to work on that Supercharger.