villageidiot111
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I don't understand how anyone can justify abolishing abortion while at the same time supporting the death penalty.
Originally posted by: villageidiot111
I don't understand how anyone can justify abolishing abortion while at the same time supporting the death penalty.
Originally posted by: villageidiot111
I don't understand how anyone can justify abolishing abortion while at the same time supporting the death penalty.
Originally posted by: CallMeJoe
You're being too kind to Huck. "The god of Abraham" is also the god of Islam and Judaism.Originally posted by: jman19
Yes, but look at the way he phrased it - what if you are polytheistic? He clearly is referring to the god of Abraham.
:thumbsdown: to Huck
"I believe it's a lot easier to change the Constitution than it would be to change the word of the living God...And that's what we need to do, is to amend the Constitution so it's in God's standards, rather than try to change God's standards."
Huckabee is clearly clearly calling for a Christian fundamentalist rewrite of our Constitution. What do you call an American, Christian Taliban?
The Huckabee administration!
Originally posted by: Harvey
... following the one we've already suffered for seven years.Originally posted by: Kadarin
The last thing we need right now is a religious fanatic as president.
Not so, Harvey. The Bush administration panders to the fundies during the election campaign, then ignores them once in office. Bush is no religious fanatic. He is a very cynical exploiter of the religious Right. He takes their votes but gives no ROI.
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
M: It is when the child is wanted. Murder a pregnant woman and you'll likely be charged with double homicide. It is when the woman's right to the sovereignty of her own body as opposed to being parasitized that the collection of human cells loses it's status. A whole person trumps the right of a collection of cells not unlike a tumor. You are emotion and can't properly think. It's a secular problem that needs a secular solution. Again, you can't escape the religious notion that a dependent fetus has the same rights as an independent human. The application of your absolutism creates a logical and practical outcome that is tantamount to slavery for the woman who in her own mind may have completely different feeling about her fetus than you do. She has to live with the consequences so she decides.
Originally posted by: Atreus21
I'm going to stop doing a mass response and focus on one question, so as not to confuse myself.
"It is when the child is wanted." That is to say that only wanted children are granted the rights of humanity. What then is wrong with killing an unwanted 2 month old infant?
Originally posted by: sirjonk
Originally posted by: Atreus21
I'm going to stop doing a mass response and focus on one question, so as not to confuse myself.
"It is when the child is wanted." That is to say that only wanted children are granted the rights of humanity. What then is wrong with killing an unwanted 2 month old infant?
Because unlike you apparently, most people on both sides of the debate are able to recognize and understand the difference between a crying baby and an undifferentiated clot of cells.
Originally posted by: Atreus21
Originally posted by: sirjonk
Originally posted by: Atreus21
I'm going to stop doing a mass response and focus on one question, so as not to confuse myself.
"It is when the child is wanted." That is to say that only wanted children are granted the rights of humanity. What then is wrong with killing an unwanted 2 month old infant?
Because unlike you apparently, most people on both sides of the debate are able to recognize and understand the difference between a crying baby and an undifferentiated clot of cells.
Well, then enlighten me. What do you call the difference between them? Can you define in simple terms what defines a human?
Originally posted by: Atreus21
Originally posted by: sirjonk
Originally posted by: Atreus21
I'm going to stop doing a mass response and focus on one question, so as not to confuse myself.
"It is when the child is wanted." That is to say that only wanted children are granted the rights of humanity. What then is wrong with killing an unwanted 2 month old infant?
Because unlike you apparently, most people on both sides of the debate are able to recognize and understand the difference between a crying baby and an undifferentiated clot of cells.
Well, then enlighten me. What do you call the difference between them? Can you define in simple terms what defines a human?