Constantly bullied, he ends his life at age 11

[Infohawk]

Constantly bullied, he ends his life at age 11

I don't have much commentary to except that this is the saddest thing I've seen in a long time. I imagine one can say that there must have been other psychological issues going on or that that there's something beyond bullying at play but in any case it's just sad when a kid does it.

 

[Mani]

Damn.

 

[NoStateofMind]

This is so sad. I feel for him and his mother. Nothing can be done to bring back his life, but we can make something positive out of this tragedy. How do we as a society work to resolve teen suicide? That's what we need to work on. We can raise awareness, explain to kids the consequences of their words and actions. Maybe have a nation wide once a year "teen abuse" program in each school across America. Outlining the ramifications of their abuse. Counselors to talk to in a moments notice if the child feels threatened. Thoughts?

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Originally posted by: PC Surgeon
This is so sad. I feel for him and his mother. Nothing can be done to bring back his life, but we can make something positive out of this tragedy. How do we as a society work to resolve teen suicide? That's what we need to work on. We can raise awareness, explain to kids the consequences of their words and actions. Maybe have a nation wide once a year "teen abuse" program in each school across America. Outlining the ramifications of their abuse. Counselors to talk to in a moments notice if the child feels threatened. Thoughts?

This has more to do with parenting than anything else, one day when you grow up you'll understand that.

 

[ericlp]

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: PC Surgeon
This is so sad. I feel for him and his mother. Nothing can be done to bring back his life, but we can make something positive out of this tragedy. How do we as a society work to resolve teen suicide? That's what we need to work on. We can raise awareness, explain to kids the consequences of their words and actions. Maybe have a nation wide once a year "teen abuse" program in each school across America. Outlining the ramifications of their abuse. Counselors to talk to in a moments notice if the child feels threatened. Thoughts?

This has more to do with parenting than anything else, one day when you grow up you'll understand that.

Gotta wonder why some people even post here.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Originally posted by: ericlp

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: PC Surgeon
This is so sad. I feel for him and his mother. Nothing can be done to bring back his life, but we can make something positive out of this tragedy. How do we as a society work to resolve teen suicide? That's what we need to work on. We can raise awareness, explain to kids the consequences of their words and actions. Maybe have a nation wide once a year "teen abuse" program in each school across America. Outlining the ramifications of their abuse. Counselors to talk to in a moments notice if the child feels threatened. Thoughts?

This has more to do with parenting than anything else, one day when you grow up you'll understand that.

Gotta wonder why some people even post here.

Considering that he's a libertian, devout Christian and for increased governmental control over children i'd say it's amasing that he can even agree with his own posts at times.

 

[chucky2]

D@mn, that's like the worst thing a parent could go through I think...either that or abduction.

Too bad the kid didn't just get a bat and F one of the bullies up...poor kid was just starting his life... :disgust:

Chuck

 

[Jaskalas]

Originally posted by: chucky2
D@mn, that's like the worst thing a parent could go through I think...either that or abduction.

Too bad the kid didn't just get a bat and F one of the bullies up...poor kid was just starting his life... :disgust:

Chuck

I wonder how much society tells kids like him to response passively, to internalize these issues. Suicide is a distinctly human behavior isn't it? I consider it must be something learned.

 

[NoStateofMind]

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: ericlp

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: PC Surgeon
This is so sad. I feel for him and his mother. Nothing can be done to bring back his life, but we can make something positive out of this tragedy. How do we as a society work to resolve teen suicide? That's what we need to work on. We can raise awareness, explain to kids the consequences of their words and actions. Maybe have a nation wide once a year "teen abuse" program in each school across America. Outlining the ramifications of their abuse. Counselors to talk to in a moments notice if the child feels threatened. Thoughts?

This has more to do with parenting than anything else, one day when you grow up you'll understand that.

Gotta wonder why some people even post here.

Considering that he's a libertian, devout Christian and for increased governmental control over children i'd say it's amasing that he can even agree with his own posts at times.

Since you know me so well you will have no problem reciting each of my views in detail.

I suspect that as usual you just have insecurities which force you to attack others. I feel sorry for you but I can't change your mental state, or the problems you face. You'll find that your lashing out will not change anything, you will still end up being the same miserable person until you decide to change. I can't do it for you. You have to do it yourself.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Originally posted by: PC Surgeon

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: ericlp

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: PC Surgeon
This is so sad. I feel for him and his mother. Nothing can be done to bring back his life, but we can make something positive out of this tragedy. How do we as a society work to resolve teen suicide? That's what we need to work on. We can raise awareness, explain to kids the consequences of their words and actions. Maybe have a nation wide once a year "teen abuse" program in each school across America. Outlining the ramifications of their abuse. Counselors to talk to in a moments notice if the child feels threatened. Thoughts?

This has more to do with parenting than anything else, one day when you grow up you'll understand that.

Gotta wonder why some people even post here.

Considering that he's a libertian, devout Christian and for increased governmental control over children i'd say it's amasing that he can even agree with his own posts at times.

Since you know me so well you will have no problem reciting each of my views in detail.

I suspect that as usual you just have insecurities which force you to attack others. I feel sorry for you but I can't change your mental state, or the problems you face. You'll find that your lashing out will not change anything, you will still end up being the same miserable person until you decide to change. I can't do it for you. You have to do it yourself.

So you won't try to ban me for disagreeing with you this time?

Also, i forgot that you are a conspiracy theorist.

 

[NoStateofMind]

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: PC Surgeon

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: ericlp

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: PC Surgeon
This is so sad. I feel for him and his mother. Nothing can be done to bring back his life, but we can make something positive out of this tragedy. How do we as a society work to resolve teen suicide? That's what we need to work on. We can raise awareness, explain to kids the consequences of their words and actions. Maybe have a nation wide once a year "teen abuse" program in each school across America. Outlining the ramifications of their abuse. Counselors to talk to in a moments notice if the child feels threatened. Thoughts?

This has more to do with parenting than anything else, one day when you grow up you'll understand that.

Gotta wonder why some people even post here.

Considering that he's a libertian, devout Christian and for increased governmental control over children i'd say it's amasing that he can even agree with his own posts at times.

Since you know me so well you will have no problem reciting each of my views in detail.

I suspect that as usual you just have insecurities which force you to attack others. I feel sorry for you but I can't change your mental state, or the problems you face. You'll find that your lashing out will not change anything, you will still end up being the same miserable person until you decide to change. I can't do it for you. You have to do it yourself.

So you won't try to ban me for disagreeing with you this time?

Also, i forgot that you are a conspiracy theorist.

Never have banned you for that reason. If you remember, it was for your disrespect and childish antics displayed in PM when you were asked time and time again to not PM me, but like a child wanting attention you continued. Neither here nor there now though.

I am a conspiracy theorist? What conspiracy do I believe?

Oh and I'm still waiting on the detailed description of what I believe, politically, socially and spiritually.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Originally posted by: PC Surgeon

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: PC Surgeon

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: ericlp

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: PC Surgeon
This is so sad. I feel for him and his mother. Nothing can be done to bring back his life, but we can make something positive out of this tragedy. How do we as a society work to resolve teen suicide? That's what we need to work on. We can raise awareness, explain to kids the consequences of their words and actions. Maybe have a nation wide once a year "teen abuse" program in each school across America. Outlining the ramifications of their abuse. Counselors to talk to in a moments notice if the child feels threatened. Thoughts?

This has more to do with parenting than anything else, one day when you grow up you'll understand that.

Gotta wonder why some people even post here.

Considering that he's a libertian, devout Christian and for increased governmental control over children i'd say it's amasing that he can even agree with his own posts at times.

Since you know me so well you will have no problem reciting each of my views in detail.

I suspect that as usual you just have insecurities which force you to attack others. I feel sorry for you but I can't change your mental state, or the problems you face. You'll find that your lashing out will not change anything, you will still end up being the same miserable person until you decide to change. I can't do it for you. You have to do it yourself.

So you won't try to ban me for disagreeing with you this time?

Also, i forgot that you are a conspiracy theorist.

Never have banned you for that reason. If you remember, it was for your disrespect and childish antics displayed in PM when you were asked time and time again to not PM me, but like a child wanting attention you continued. Neither here nor there now though.

I am a conspiracy theorist? What conspiracy do I believe?

Oh and I'm still waiting on the detailed description of what I believe, politically, socially and spiritually.

No it wasn't, you kept responding to a discussion and by the end of it asked that i didn't reply, i eventually refused to answer you and you banned me, it was lifted by a senior mod after review.

We've already had this discussion and last time i PM'd you so i would not derail the thread and it didn't go over all that well so how about we quit this right about fucking now? Is that ok with your stuffed arse?

My apologies to the thread starter for derailing the thread.

 

[chucky2]

Originally posted by: Jaskalas

Originally posted by: chucky2
D@mn, that's like the worst thing a parent could go through I think...either that or abduction.

Too bad the kid didn't just get a bat and F one of the bullies up...poor kid was just starting his life... :disgust:

Chuck

I wonder how much society tells kids like him to response passively, to internalize these issues. Suicide is a distinctly human behavior isn't it? I consider it must be something learned.

Yeah, I see this all the time with people I know/hear in public. Telling their kids to turn the other cheek, actually accepting disrespect themselves, as if enabling the other person wronging them somehow makes them a better person. It doesn't. It just makes you a sucker.

The thing to do is teach your kid to respect others, but not take any sh1t. Someone wants to give you sh1t, np, here's some knuckles to chew on. Don't like that? Well, maybe next time don't mouth off.

Oh well....I'm 50/50 on ever having kids...dogs seem so much more easy...haha...

Chuck

 

[NoStateofMind]

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: PC Surgeon

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: PC Surgeon

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: ericlp

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: PC Surgeon
This is so sad. I feel for him and his mother. Nothing can be done to bring back his life, but we can make something positive out of this tragedy. How do we as a society work to resolve teen suicide? That's what we need to work on. We can raise awareness, explain to kids the consequences of their words and actions. Maybe have a nation wide once a year "teen abuse" program in each school across America. Outlining the ramifications of their abuse. Counselors to talk to in a moments notice if the child feels threatened. Thoughts?

This has more to do with parenting than anything else, one day when you grow up you'll understand that.

Gotta wonder why some people even post here.

Considering that he's a libertian, devout Christian and for increased governmental control over children i'd say it's amasing that he can even agree with his own posts at times.

Since you know me so well you will have no problem reciting each of my views in detail.

I suspect that as usual you just have insecurities which force you to attack others. I feel sorry for you but I can't change your mental state, or the problems you face. You'll find that your lashing out will not change anything, you will still end up being the same miserable person until you decide to change. I can't do it for you. You have to do it yourself.

So you won't try to ban me for disagreeing with you this time?

Also, i forgot that you are a conspiracy theorist.

Never have banned you for that reason. If you remember, it was for your disrespect and childish antics displayed in PM when you were asked time and time again to not PM me, but like a child wanting attention you continued. Neither here nor there now though.

I am a conspiracy theorist? What conspiracy do I believe?

Oh and I'm still waiting on the detailed description of what I believe, politically, socially and spiritually.

No it wasn't, you kept responding to a discussion and by the end of it asked that i didn't reply, i eventually refused to answer you and you banned me, it was lifted by a senior mod after review.

Thats a lie and you know it. You can make up whatever story makes you feel better about yourself, we know you need it.

We've already had this discussion and last time i PM'd you so i would not derail the thread and it didn't go over all that well so how about we quit this right about fucking now? Is that ok with your stuffed arse?

I see. So take this as a lesson, don't make broad statements about someone when you do not know what you are talking about. Be humble instead of abrasive and you can save yourself the humiliation.

My apologies to the thread starter for derailing the thread.

Ditto

 

[nullzero]

Sad news article.... I feel bad for the kid. There has to be more programs in school to ease the teasing and harassment.

 

[I Saw OJ]

 

[JJChicken]

Its very sad to hear this

 

[Possessed Freak]

I fear more of the kneejerk reactions which tend to take place after isolated incidents like this are brought to the light.

I was bullied in school until I finally stood up for myself and some explosion happened in my brain that said this is it, either I end up face down in a pool of blood or the other kid does, but this has to stop. The bully had no clue that I was ready for a fight, and being about 50 pounds heavier then him (that was the brunt of the bullying mind you), I just pushed him into the wall of lockets and body slammed him multiple times. Then of course adults came out and ended it before any real damage was done. But that ended my torment.

People need to learn how to respond to bullies, because a kneejerk reaction that tries to rid the schools of bullies WILL fail... or make those students even less capable of dealing with bullies when they appear later in life.

 

[Triumph]

I don't believe any "average" amount of bullying, or even fairly extreme bullying, would lead an otherwise healthy, well adjusted child to take his own life. The kid either had A: mental issues or B: had a warped upbringing that distorted his sense of reality so much that he came to believe suicide was the way out, at age 11. It comes down to this: an eleven year old is not capable of making large decisions for himself. All of his decision making skills up to this point are based upon input from parents and family, rather than personal life experience. I'm not making any claims to a conclusion, too many details are missing to even begin to do so, but to me the situation warrants more investigation, or perhaps study is a better term. If I was a sociologist or a psychologist, this would be an exceptional case study. And this is what should be done, not knee jerk reactions like others here would propose.

 

[Atreus21]

I was talking to my girlfriend about this. Sometimes life simply brings questions without any clear answers. Could the parents have done more? Perhaps, but they might've overcompensated. You never know exactly how serious to take your kid. If you take him too seriously, you'll wind up fighting all his battles for him and he'll be dependent. If you don't take him seriously enough, he might wind up killing himself at 11.

Being a parent must be scary indeed.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

I was heavily bullied as a child growing up in the 70's. I was born with a congenital heart defect, had surgery at 10 days old, open heart when I was 5. I had scars all over my upper body, and occasionally had to wear a Holter monitor to school. Back in the 70's this was a tape recorder inside a case about as large as a notebook binder, with a shoulder strap that had wires connecting it to my chest to read my heartbeat over a 24 hour period.
Needless to say, the bullies saw the Holter monitor as a 'purse'. I can empathize with this child. And I can definitely understand how it feels to be bullied throughout childhood, teen years, especially highschool.
I don't know what prevented me from doing the same, probably my parents love and compassion. And to this day, I resent those kids, but I resent the teachers more for not stepping up and preventing the bullying. They were there, they knew what was going on, and appeared to only half care.
My heart goes out to his family.

 

[halik]

Why is this news?

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Originally posted by: Triumph
I don't believe any "average" amount of bullying, or even fairly extreme bullying, would lead an otherwise healthy, well adjusted child to take his own life. The kid either had A: mental issues or B: had a warped upbringing that distorted his sense of reality so much that he came to believe suicide was the way out, at age 11. It comes down to this: an eleven year old is not capable of making large decisions for himself. All of his decision making skills up to this point are based upon input from parents and family, rather than personal life experience. I'm not making any claims to a conclusion, too many details are missing to even begin to do so, but to me the situation warrants more investigation, or perhaps study is a better term. If I was a sociologist or a psychologist, this would be an exceptional case study. And this is what should be done, not knee jerk reactions like others here would propose.

You have no idea what you are talking about. Unless you have been the victim of relentless bullying, being made to feel inadequate every day, you cannot relate or empathize.
He saw one way out of a hell he saw himself living in for the rest of his life. Too bad you're so biased as to not see that as well.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Originally posted by: halik
Why is this news?

I would say it qualifies as news over all of the crap about celebrities falling off a horse, breaking up with someone, going to rehab etc.
This is a real child with real parents, not some celeb getting a headline for farting.

 

[halik]

Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti

Originally posted by: halik
Why is this news?

I would say it qualifies as news over all of the crap about celebrities falling off a horse, breaking up with someone, going to rehab etc.
This is a real child with real parents, not some celeb getting a headline for farting.

None of which gets posted here...
Nothing but another ratings grab via with a human interest story followed by "where's hayley".