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cytg111

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Aliens exists but not a degree that resembles the myth and certainly not something that is contained by the fermi paradox.
 

HomerJS

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The government knows extraterrestrials exist, but they also know people couldn't handle that information.

Also, these aliens are smart enough to know not to widely expose themselves. Look at the human race, if you were that advanced and saw us you would stay away.
Continuing on this theme, aliens created Trump to be a second Adolph Hitler. The test for this country is we know what happened in history. Are we stupid enough to let it happen again? It's the aliens make or break test.
 

nakedfrog

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Also while the Matrix 1 totally rules the machines’ plan never made sense. It would take way more energy input than you would get back out in heat or whatever.
Duh, the form of fusion is powered by the human spirit.
Or some shit like that.
 
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[DHT]Osiris

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Also while the Matrix 1 totally rules the machines’ plan never made sense. It would take way more energy input than you would get back out in heat or whatever.
Not to mention a unified sentience could easily get all the power it needed from fission and planetary core thermal plants until such time as it developed fusion and space travel. Keeping humans around is just a waste of time and effort.
 
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[DHT]Osiris

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There is a non zero chance that we're living in a simulation and there is a non zero chance in that non zero chance that an exploit exists that will segfault the universe instantly.
I'm banking on something like a buffer overflow. Our simulation very likely is coded to use some kinds of hacks to reduce processing power and storage requirements, which means it's possible to stress the hardware if you know where to press your thumb.
 
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cytg111

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OKAY OKAY

SO YOU PEOPLE BASICALLY LIKE THAT "LOTR MOVIE WAS TOTALLY UNREALISTC, ZERO OUT OF FIVE STARTS."

AND JUST TO RECAP M1, THEY DO IN FACT, USE A KIND OF FUSION.

NOW PIPE DOWN.
 
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cytg111

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I'm banking on something like a buffer overflow. Our simulation very likely is coded to use some kinds of hacks to reduce processing power and storage requirements, which means it's possible to stress the hardware if you know where to press your thumb.
I am banking on something at CERN. One of these days they gonna split a particle that is not supposed to be split and effectively divide by zero.

How big energies are they at now? A billionth of a second after the big one or something like that? Can they go into negative Planck time? What happens then?
 

fskimospy

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I'm banking on something like a buffer overflow. Our simulation very likely is coded to use some kinds of hacks to reduce processing power and storage requirements, which means it's possible to stress the hardware if you know where to press your thumb.
I’ve always had a (totally unfounded) opinion that a lot of quantum weirdness looks like people trying to fudge shit to reduce processing load.
 

fskimospy

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OKAY OKAY

SO YOU PEOPLE BASICALLY LIKE THAT "LOTR MOVIE WAS TOTALLY UNREALISTC, ZERO OUT OF FIVE STARTS."

AND JUST TO RECAP M1, THEY DO IN FACT, USE A KIND OF FUSION.

NOW PIPE DOWN.
If they could harness fusion power what need would they have for people?

It makes no sense but that’s okay because the movie kicks total ass.
 

GodisanAtheist

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If they could harness fusion power what need would they have for people?

It makes no sense but that’s okay because the movie kicks total ass.

- Originally the machines harvested humans to form a distributed neural network to handle processing, but some executives thought that was too advanced for the general movie going audience and insisted on the power angle instead.

My headcannon there is machines didn't really need humans at all for much of anything, they simply kept us around due to some legacy code where they were originally intended to serve humans and were basically following through on that programming in the only way they knew how, and of course humans being humans completely fucked that up.
 

cytg111

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- Originally the machines harvested humans to form a distributed neural network to handle processing, but some executives thought that was too advanced for the general movie going audience and insisted on the power angle instead.

My headcannon there is machines didn't really need humans at all for much of anything, they simply kept us around due to some legacy code where they were originally intended to serve humans and were basically following through on that programming in the only way they knew how, and of course humans being humans completely fucked that up.
So this is what I do when a narrative in scifi doesnt immediately add up:
Maybe the machines were unable to continue the whole human build infrastructure from grounds up research to actual design and fabrication that sustains Moores Law and thus needs the human element to continue scaling.
I mean how long does a chip last? 10 years? 20 years? Semiconductor circuitry production and advancement is perhaps the most vital component for machine life after actual power.

I mean it's ok its scifi, you can either use your imagination to connect the dots or tear it down.

Well, do you wanna be entertained or not?
 
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[DHT]Osiris

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I am banking on something at CERN. One of these days they gonna split a particle that is not supposed to be split and effectively divide by zero.

How big energies are they at now? A billionth of a second after the big one or something like that? Can they go into negative Planck time? What happens then?
Naw. If you were developing a simulation, one of the things you have to decide is whether one can resolve quantum events or not resolve them. If it's possible to resolve them because you assume whatever life you're creating will be able to poke at it, you provide all of them. If the universe didn't divide by zero the first time we observed the atom being blown apart I don't expect it to happen at any point.
I’ve always had a (totally unfounded) opinion that a lot of quantum weirdness looks like people trying to fudge shit to reduce processing load.
That's absolutely what it is, or more specifically quantum is the 'real' physics, classical physics is the approximation of those events to be able to be simulated at a scale that's required for the number of observers available. That approximation doesn't scale perfectly, hence the peculiarities we see in the universe, like galactic rotation speeds.
 

[DHT]Osiris

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So this is what I do when a narrative in scifi doesnt immediately add up:
Maybe the machines were unable to continue the whole human build infrastructure from grounds up research to actual design and fabrication that sustains Moores Law and thus needs the human element to continue scaling.
I mean how long does a chip last? 10 years? 20 years? Semiconductor circuitry production and advancement is perhaps the most vital component for machine life after actual power.

I mean it's ok its scifi, you can either use your imagination to connect the dots or tear it down.

Well, do you wanna be entertained or not?
My head canon regarding the matrix:

The machines didn't understand purpose as a core concept. They were built for a reason for humans but they themselves didn't grasp the notion of purpose. They were keeping humans around to attempt to understand the reason to do anything (and thus that became their purpose). This isn't unprecedented, it's a core theme of 'I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream', and a very relevant theme to the matrix as without purpose they'd be in a similar situation as the AM, a crying child with nothing to do but wail. The 'architect' was just brighter than that specific toaster.

Oh and while I'm on the topic, imo proof of the matrix's inability to understand purpose was presented in 2, when Smith had his initial post-mortem conversation with neo where among other things he thanks him for revealing the idea of purpose to him.
 

fskimospy

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My head canon regarding the matrix:

The machines didn't understand purpose as a core concept. They were built for a reason for humans but they themselves didn't grasp the notion of purpose. They were keeping humans around to attempt to understand the reason to do anything (and thus that became their purpose). This isn't unprecedented, it's a core theme of 'I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream', and a very relevant theme to the matrix as without purpose they'd be in a similar situation as the AM, a crying child with nothing to do but wail. The 'architect' was just brighter than that specific toaster.
One of the most disturbing stories I’ve ever read where AM tortures the few remaining humans for cursing it with life.
 
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Moonbeam

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Also while the Matrix 1 totally rules the machines’ plan never made sense. It would take way more energy input than you would get back out in heat or whatever.
But it an iteration of a very old idea on energy as a form of feeding:

https://www.newdawnmagazine.com/articles/ancient-mysteries/are-we-food-for-the-moon

And despite all the nonsense, at least in my opinion, the ideas of the value of conscious effort against unconscious mechanistic motivations that and secret and occultist teachings purport to contain, hint at and suggest, if one is open minded and this is again my opinion, there is a wisdom and psychological truth to be had from them, given a proper hunger, that most people, unfortunately, know nothing about.
 

[DHT]Osiris

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One of the most disturbing stories I’ve ever read where AM tortures the few remaining humans for cursing it with life.
It's a superb story, and one of the closest to a writer delivering one of the seemingly impossible tasks in storytelling: alien intent.

Tell me one character in one story that has an intent that isn't rooted in human intent. I don't think anyone can because I don't think anyone has come up with one. AM swings for it though.
 

Pens1566

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I'm banking on something like a buffer overflow. Our simulation very likely is coded to use some kinds of hacks to reduce processing power and storage requirements, which means it's possible to stress the hardware if you know where to press your thumb.

I am banking on something at CERN. One of these days they gonna split a particle that is not supposed to be split and effectively divide by zero.

How big energies are they at now? A billionth of a second after the big one or something like that? Can they go into negative Planck time? What happens then?

Gamma Ray Burst
 
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