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Indus

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I think all the right wing pundits & hosts are secretly closeted gay!

I think Mayor Adams is a right winger pretending to be a democrat!

I think we ought to boycott more stores & chains that donate to right wingers!

Wars in this century won't be fought over gasoline but over water and food!

And I think Republicans are now at the point where they don't want any sort of functional government anymore.. they want anarchy and a strongman leader..
 

fskimospy

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I think Epstein didn't kill himself, although I think a fair number of people agree with that.

It's pretty weird that Trump, a longtime, close associate of Epstein mentioned numerous times in his various records, controlled the prison where he died where the cameras mysteriously didn't work, he was mysteriously given extra bedsheets, and where the guards mysteriously decided not to check in on him at all. This was directly under Bill Barr, who also knew Epstein, and that he was arrested only after another Trump associate, Acosta, repeatedly attempted to hide Epstein's crimes and shield him from accountability.

Seems suspicious!
 

Greenman

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I think all the right wing pundits & hosts are secretly closeted gay!

I think Mayor Adams is a right winger pretending to be a democrat!

I think we ought to boycott more stores & chains that donate to right wingers!

Wars in this century won't be fought over gasoline but over water and food!

And I think Republicans are now at the point where they don't want any sort of functional government anymore.. they want anarchy and a strongman leader..
None of those are conspiracy theory's, they're opinions.
 

K1052

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The main one I have some faith in is the JFK assassination. But again, that's not one where I'm alone. Warren commission was a joke, and had a predetermined outcome that they made "facts" fit to that.

Same basically. He had many quite real enemies, Oswald was a middling shooter at best and the target was moving, the official report is suspect, and the assassin gets capped basically right after the deed.
 

fskimospy

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Same basically. He had many quite real enemies, Oswald was a middling shooter at best and the target was moving, the official report is suspect, and the assassin gets capped basically right after the deed.
Also their refusal to release so many details they have about it even after basically everyone involved is dead is... suspicious.
 
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I think Epstein didn't kill himself, although I think a fair number of people agree with that.

It's pretty weird that Trump, a longtime, close associate of Epstein mentioned numerous times in his various records, controlled the prison where he died where the cameras mysteriously didn't work, he was mysteriously given extra bedsheets, and where the guards mysteriously decided not to check in on him at all. This was directly under Bill Barr, who also knew Epstein, and that he was arrested only after another Trump associate, Acosta, repeatedly attempted to hide Epstein's crimes and shield him from accountability.

Seems suspicious!
Idk... Federal holding site with rampant, known problems, with a guy that previously tried to kill himself just days prior and was facing life in prison as a predator (something that would lead someone to generally have a worse time than the typical prison stint), and just knowing that prison guards aren't exactly the cream of the crop and were known to be derelict in their duties...
 
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IronWing

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Flight 93 was shot down. The "Let's roll" story was made up from whole cloth. Cell phones in 2001 didn't work well enough to allow continuous calls from a moving aircraft. Cell tower antennas are designed to cover horizontal ground, not the sky above.
 

fskimospy

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Idk... Federal holding site with rampant, known problems, with a guy that previously tried to kill himself just days prior and was facing life in prison as a predator (something that would lead someone to generally have a worse time than the typical prison stint), and just knowing that prison guards aren't exactly the cream of the crop and were known to be derelict in their duties...
I'm not saying Epstein was CERTAINLY murdered, but it's an awfully convenient series of events and it just so happens that the guy running federal prisons had a strong incentive for Epstein to not be too talkative. Considering it seems that Epstein's MO was to amass blackmail on powerful people it's not crazy to think he had some (or a LOT) on Trump.

It could absolutely be incompetence, but it's also absolutely suspicious.
 

nakedfrog

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I'm not saying Epstein was CERTAINLY murdered, but it's an awfully convenient series of events and it just so happens that the guy running federal prisons had a strong incentive for Epstein to not be too talkative. Considering it seems that Epstein's MO was to amass blackmail on powerful people it's not crazy to think he had some (or a LOT) on Trump.

It could absolutely be incompetence, but it's also absolutely suspicious.
I don't have a firm belief either way, but it would seem peculiar for someone in his position to not have some kind of dead man's switch in place to help assure his safety. Maybe there was and it was rooted out, IDK.
 
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I don't have a firm belief either way, but it would seem peculiar for someone in his position to not have some kind of dead man's switch in place to help assure his safety. Maybe there was and it was rooted out, IDK.
Yeah, if you have blackmail on people, you need a credible threat that you could still execute on your threats even if someone killed you. Otherwise, it kind of defeats the purpose... Like keeping a doomsday machine secret.
 

fskimospy

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Yeah, if you have blackmail on people, you need a credible threat that you could still execute on your threats even if someone killed you. Otherwise, it kind of defeats the purpose... Like keeping a doomsday machine secret.
Well I think we all agree he had blackmail info on people, right? So now the question is why that didn’t happen.
 
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Well I think we all agree he had blackmail info on people, right? So now the question is why that didn’t happen.
My thoughts are more along the lines that he might have had blackmail on some people, but he thought the majority of his protection could come from being seen as a friend to fellow rich people.
 

Pens1566

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My thoughts are more along the lines that he might have had blackmail on some people, but he thought the majority of his protection could come from being seen as a friend to fellow rich people.

I think that his Mossad handlers have it, and are keeping it for themselves.
 
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woolfe9998

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I'm not saying Epstein was CERTAINLY murdered, but it's an awfully convenient series of events and it just so happens that the guy running federal prisons had a strong incentive for Epstein to not be too talkative. Considering it seems that Epstein's MO was to amass blackmail on powerful people it's not crazy to think he had some (or a LOT) on Trump.

It could absolutely be incompetence, but it's also absolutely suspicious.

It's apparently a common belief, that Epstein was murdered. Multiple polls show that more people believe he was murdered than believe he killed himself.

The reason I'm skeptical of it being a homicide is that there was one functioning camera which showed ingress and egress to Epstein's cell tier, and it shows no one going there during the relevant time period. So far as the other cameras not functioning, that was a malfunction of the prison's digital recording system which initially occurred a week prior to the incident. The malfunction caused half the cameras in the prison to only show live video but not make recordings. These kinds of problems with the cameras had been going on in this facility off and on for years.

Also, Epstein executed a new Will, with his lawyers present, two days before the incident.

Finally, Ghislaine Maxwell has much of the same blackmail material as Epstein. Why is she still alive in prison?
 

tweaker2

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The Shadow Gov't is much more powerful than the one we see out in the open. That the aristocrat class are the ones that are actually running the gov't by leveraging whatever control they have over the economy. That the former is one of the reasons why a hopelessly flawed totally incompetent vulnerable narcissist racist adulterer and chronically afflicted liar can still be in the running to once again prove to the world how he is a known absolute threat to our democracy and the democracies around the world.
 

fskimospy

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It's apparently a common belief, that Epstein was murdered. Multiple polls show that more people believe he was murdered than believe he killed himself.

The reason I'm skeptical of it being a homicide is that there was one functioning camera which showed ingress and egress to Epstein's cell tier, and it shows no one going there during the relevant time period. So far as the other cameras not functioning, that was a malfunction of the prison's digital recording system which initially occurred a week prior to the incident. The malfunction caused half the cameras in the prison to only show live video but not make recordings. These kinds of problems with the cameras had been going on in this facility off and on for years.

Also, Epstein executed a new Will, with his lawyers present, two days before the incident.
None of these things to me by definition discount the distinct possibility he was murdered or coerced into suicide.
Finally, Ghislaine Maxwell has much of the same blackmail material as Epstein. Why is she still alive in prison?
Does she?
 

cytg111

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Epstein is worrisome. Cause if true then who the fuck has the power to pull that off and what else they have the power to do?
 
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woolfe9998

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None of these things to me by definition discount the distinct possibility he was murdered or coerced into suicide.

Does she?

Why would a camera showing no one going up to his jail tier not be persuasive here?

So far as Maxwell, she recruited his girls, and she personally knew Trump, Clinton, Dershowitz and Prince Andrew.
 

fskimospy

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Why would a camera showing no one going up to his jail tier not be persuasive here?
Because he could also have been coerced into suicide and/or been deliberately provided the means with which to commit suicide, which to me is functionally the same thing.
So far as Maxwell, she recruited his girls, and she personally knew Trump, Clinton, Dershowitz and Prince Andrew.
Does she have video as Epstein was rumored to have? Other records?

Her saying things isn't great, but that's a long, long way from actually having the goods on these people.
 
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HomerJS

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The government knows extraterrestrials exist, but they also know people couldn't handle that information.

Also, these aliens are smart enough to know not to widely expose themselves. Look at the human race, if you were that advanced and saw us you would stay away.
 

nOOky

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I think aliens exist, but they have the technology to study us from afar. They listened and watched a bit, and said "fuck that, let them kill themselves" and then decided to check back in 100,000 years or so.

I highly doubt they needed to anally probe some poor crazy bastards in person, unless they do that sort of stuff for fun.
 
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