Question Considering upgrade....most threads for the $$?

[JC]

Considering upgrading my i7-4770 box....my wife doesn't want 2-3 computers running DC all the time, so I'm thinking about maximizing my threads. Been out of the upgrade loop for a long time now, obvi I'll need CPU/mobo/RAM, not sure about PSU...would like to get to 16 threads...I'm semi-retired with a 2 year old kid, so trying to find the balance of "as close to current tech" vs. "if it's too much the wife won't let me do it, cause the i7 works fine!" lol. Suggestions appreciated, thanks

 

[JC]

Oh, and finally getting some Rosetta WUs that don't crash, w00t!

 

[Ken g6]

MSI B660PLUS-D4
i7-12700F
4x 8GB Corsair Vengeance DDR4 CL16
GTX 1050
SSD, DVD

That's about it.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/V7y3Fg

Estimated Watts ~400.

A 500W PSU looks OK, if that's what you have now. If not, going a little higher wouldn't hurt.

 

[Skillz]

Yeah 500W will run that.

Didn't realize the old system was a Dell. They're notorious for using propriety crap in their systems.

 

[Markfw]

Yeah 500W will run that.

Didn't realize the old system was a Dell. They're notorious for using propriety crap in their systems.

I looked at a new HP 5600g system for a friend yesterday. 120 watt PSU !

I want to post proof, can't find it now, but here is one with 180 watt PSU ! Its in specs/quick info.

Are you a human?

www.newegg.com

 

[Skillz]

I looked at a new HP 5600g system for a friend yesterday. 120 watt PSU !

I want to post proof, can't find it now, but here is one with 180 watt PSU ! Its in specs/quick info.

Are you a human?

www.newegg.com

Thats not all that unheard of. I have a mini-PC that uses a external power brick to power it. The system came shipped with an i7-7700.

Those systems aren't designed to have a GPU, so sub 200W PSU bricks will work fine for them. Similar to how laptops use lower power because they don't have a big heavy discrete GPU hogging all the power.

 

[Markfw]

Thats not all that unheard of. I have a mini-PC that uses a external power brick to power it. The system came shipped with an i7-7700.

Those systems aren't designed to have a GPU, so sub 200W PSU bricks will work fine for them. Similar to how laptops use lower power because they don't have a big heavy discrete GPU hogging all the power.

But unlike those, these have a lot of space for harddrives, slots for GPUs, optical drives... If the user just put one of those in, it would blow. Well depends, but you get the idea.

 

[Skillz]

But unlike those, these have a lot of space for harddrives, slots for GPUs, optical drives... If the user just put one of those in, it would blow. Well depends, but you get the idea.

It might have additional space for HDDs and maybe another optical drive, but even if their is a PCI-e 16x slot their wont be any 6+2 pin power connectors on the PSU. So their wouldn't be any additional load on the PSU.

 

[Ken g6]

It might have additional space for HDDs and maybe another optical drive, but even if their is a PCI-e 16x slot their wont be any 6+2 pin power connectors on the PSU. So their wouldn't be any additional load on the PSU.

Just because there's no extra power connectors doesn't mean you can't draw too much from the motherboard. A 1050 Ti, for instance, draws 75W through the motherboard. That's somewhere around half the power budget! I had a bad fan on one system, connected to the motherboard, that caused a 750W PSU to fail to boot.

 

[Skillz]

Just because there's no extra power connectors doesn't mean you can't draw too much from the motherboard. A 1050 Ti, for instance, draws 75W through the motherboard. That's somewhere around half the power budget! I had a bad fan on one system, connected to the motherboard, that caused a 750W PSU to fail to boot.

The 5600G is a low power CPU.

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-ryzen-5-5600g-review/2

According to Toms, the full system under load draws less than 60W. That's 120W left for "anything else attached" and 75W falls within' 120W which still gives more on the table.

Assuming the 5600G is similar to the OEM only 4600G.

edit
180W could be a typo on their site. I've went looking around at other places for that system and similar systems with 4600G CPUs and they come with 400W PSUs.

 

[waffleironhead]

I looked at a new HP 5600g system for a friend yesterday. 120 watt PSU !

I want to post proof, can't find it now, but here is one with 180 watt PSU ! Its in specs/quick info.

Are you a human?

www.newegg.com

Yeah, a lot of those HP systems have 180w gold psus. I have a hp tp01-2096 I got from office depot for ~$560 over the holidays.
5700g
16g memory
256g SSD
I threw a 2T spinner in there for storage/steam library. My kid games/does schoolwork on it a few hours each day and it crunches the rest of the time.
180 watt is more than enough.
HP Pavilion Desktop Computer 318G8AAABA - Office Depot

 

[Skillz]

Yeah, a lot of those HP systems have 180w gold psus. I have a hp tp01-2096 I got from office depot for ~$560 over the holidays.
5700g
16g memory
256g SSD
I threw a 2T spinner in there for storage/steam library. My kid games/does schoolwork on it a few hours each day and it crunches the rest of the time.
180 watt is more than enough.
HP Pavilion Desktop Computer 318G8AAABA - Office Depot

Does it have a 16x PCI-e slot in it?

 

[waffleironhead]

Does it have a 16x PCI-e slot in it?

yeah, it has the erica6 motherboard that HP uses across many lines.
HP Desktop PCs - Motherboard Specifications, Erica6 | HP® Customer Support
If you buy the systems that ship with rx5500 they usually come with 310w or 400w psus instead.
ive got a few hp systems that shipped with those, two older 2400g systems and a 3700x/rx550
The 310w pcg007 has a 6 pin for powering gpus. Its what they throw in the lower systems that come with slot powered gpus ala rx550

So, yeah, I wont be throwing any extra GPU in the 5700g system without swapping a different power supply in.

 

[JC]

Finally up and running! 20 threads, showing 88C with the stock-from-the-box Intel cooler. Opinions?

 

[Tech Junky]

Finally up and running! 20 threads, showing 88C with the stock-from-the-box Intel cooler. Opinions?

Buy a real cooler. I'm using a $45 cooler in push/pull and only hit ~55C and idle in the mid 20's.

 

[Skillz]

88C under full load I presume? If that's not 100% load something is wrong.

I'd buy a better cooler though, if it's a daily rig I'd opt for a AIO 240 or 360 setup, but if it's for crunching only then I'd settle for a 120mm tower style cooler.

 

[Markfw]

I have a 12700k coming Monday !