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Conservatives vs Liberals

Freejack2

Freejack2

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Either noone will give a crap and this thread will dissapear into the void or I'm about to open a can of worms...
Anyways I have a theory and I want people's opinions on this.

A conservative, typically a republican or other conservative party, does not like change. Even though they may see many problems about they choose to ignore them or not see them because it would mean change. They have a decent job, they are comfortable and don't want things to change. They may see that there are many problems in the world but to do anything to solve them would comprimise their lifestyle. They will only take action on anything that threatens their lifestyle. For example they may find out about a company a few towns downstream that's dumping illegal toxins into the river. This person is upstream, it doesn't affect them any so they don't say anything about it. However should this company be upstream from this person and affecting their water, then they will say something.
Another less extreme example would be the government wants to pass legislation that puts a gas guzzler or luxury tax on SUV's that get less than say 20mpg. The money would go towards research of say making a substantially higher miles per gallon suv. The conservative might realize that this may in the long run benefit them and the environment, however because it will cost them money today they will argue against it.

For a liberal, typically a democrat, or other liberal party such as the green party, wants to see change for what appears to them as the good. They will speak up about a company dumping toxins in the river no matter where that company is. They may plan to buy an SUV, but would vote for the bill because while they may have to pay more today, they feel that in the future what they pay now will benefit the environment and also them.

On the mark, somewhat right but, or hogwash? What's your opinion?
 
A conservative, typically a republican or other conservative party, does not like change. Even though they may see many problems about they choose to ignore them or not see them because it would mean change.
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Hmm according to that description a true conservative wouldn't want to go and oust Hussien and change the Government there (Nation Building)
 
If it were up to conservatives, our society would revert to the way it was during the 1950's. How can you possibly say they do not want change?????
 
Originally posted by: Freejack2
somewhat right but
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I don't have time to explain (I need to go to class now). But you are somewhat right. This will turn into a flame war, and will have too many posts when I return. So I probably won't post again.

 
Liberals are just as selfish as conservative; for some of them, their hearts are in the right place (as it is with conservatives), but for many of them they act the same way that conservatives do, have the same personal opinions, etc. For most of them, I think it's just about getting reelected.
 
Originally posted by: 3L33T32003
If it were up to conservatives, our society would revert to the way it was during the 1950's. How can you possibly say they do not want change?????
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50's style life!?!?, oh my the agony :Q

I'd much rather stay in this primadonna filled, lazy machine/computer reliant over inflated society any day!! 😉
 
modern conservatism is basically the same thing as classical liberalism. the political ideology of the founding fathers of the U.S. was classical liberalism, in that day their ideas were liberal, hence the name. over time their once "liberal" beliefs became more and more mainstream and accepted by the people, and today classical liberalism is basically modern conservatism. today's liberals will eventually be conservatives if the trend stays true. seems logical.
 
You are not correct at all. Where did you even come up with that? I've come up with this theory, Liberals have bigger mouths and have to call a press conference every time they take a wiz. Conservatives tend to be more quiet. They do the same stuff as the liberals, but they don't make a huge fuss over it. This is the rule, and there are always exceptions. Remember when Clinton first became president? It was huge news that he jogged to a McDonalds once to eat breakfast. Both Liberals and Conservatives don't care about your or me, only their own adgenda. They will do whatever it takes to get reelected and that usually means feed people what they want to hear, and hold back the rest.
 
Originally posted by: americangigolo
modern conservatism is basically the same thing as classical liberalism. the political ideology of the founding fathers of the U.S. was classical liberalism, in that day their ideas were liberal, hence the name. over time their once "liberal" beliefs became more and more mainstream and accepted by the people, and today classical liberalism is basically modern conservatism. today's liberals will eventually be conservatives if the trend stays true. seems logical.
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Seems to me the trend is moving like this: Conservatives are becoming more liberal, liberals are becoming even more liberal.
 
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
A conservative, typically a republican or other conservative party, does not like change. Even though they may see many problems about they choose to ignore them or not see them because it would mean change.
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Hmm according to that description a true conservative wouldn't want to go and oust Hussien and change the Government there (Nation Building)
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Well, according to the first post, not unless it benefits them.

But I don't think it's a purely liberal/conservative issue.

 
What I do not understand is the desire to be tagged as either.

I think-

A) Clinton sucked

B) Bush sucks

Now if I were Liberal or Conservative, I would be constrained to pick one. I choose neither.

Having said that if Clinton and Bush came up with a bad idea, then I would evaluate their thought based on the merits of the suggestion, not who said it. Likewise for something good. If they came up with a miraculous solution to some world problem, I would not shoot it down because my guy did not come up with it. A good idea would be a good idea no matter who said it.
 
It's rather obvious that liberalism can't stand up to scrutiny, so if any of you nutballs want to debate, it'll give me something to do today. 😀
 
Originally posted by: Hayabusarider
If they came up with a miraculous solution to some world problem, I would not shoot it down because my guy did not come up with it. A good idea would be a good idea no matter who said it.
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Actually, the solution is out there. Freedom is the solution to the human condition. Take a look at all of the poor nations of the world. None of them have freedom. They're all run by little dictators. Freedom is the answer.
 
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