Conservatives: please explain your problem with Jesse Jackson

micrometers

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Like the title says. He appears to be an upstanding citizen.

Trolling title changed from "conservatards" to "conservatives." -Admin DrPizza
 
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jackstar7

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What is your problem, eh?

I'm sure you could just google this and get all your answers.
 
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He's an opportunistic PoS and you don't have to be conservative to recognize that. He's every bit the baiter and outrage stoker as some like like Rush Limbaugh, he just happens to be right more often because there's still a lot of legitimate racism out there.
 

Svnla

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White shot black, Jessie would be all over TV and the news.

Blacks shot whites, blacks, and other groups, Jessie and his ilks are no where to be found.

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<<<----- Independent, neither liberal or conservative.
 

bradley

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Only a career opportunist would smear blood on his own shirt to make claims about holding a dying MLK in his arms.
 
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White shot black, Jessie would be all over TV and the news.

Blacks shot whites, blacks, and other groups, Jessie and his ilks are no where to be found.

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<<<----- Independent, neither liberal or conservative.

This right here, the same time of the Zimmerman shooting two white guys were killed by a black guy, nothing heard from jackson or that idiot al sharpton
 

unokitty

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I'm not a conservative. And I don't have a problem with the Reverend Jackson.

And while sociology isn't my field, I have to wonder why the media seems to always portray the Reverend Jackson as the political equivalent of Flavor Flav. (Without the musical ability or the clocks though...)
 
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DaveSimmons

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> conservatards: please explain your problem with Jesse Jackson

Troll title is trolling.

I'm not a conservative, but he has a history of using his standing in the African-American community to extort "donations" from corporations to "charities" that help support his very nice lifestyle.
 

monovillage

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> conservatards: please explain your problem with Jesse Jackson

Troll title is trolling.

I'm not a conservative, but he has a history of using his standing in the African-American community to extort "donations" from corporations to "charities" that help support his very nice lifestyle.

Yes, but he's extorting the money for a good cause.............. lining his fucking pockets.
 

Anarchist420

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As far as politicians go, he's actually not that awful. Obama's a total statist whereas Jesse Jackson is at least anti-war and supports civil liberties at least a little bit which means he's not much more anti-market than most Republicans.

I think he's done some terrible things and I hate how he accuses whites of racism against blacks, but he's not as bad as Rombama.
 

ShawnD1

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Despite being a dick, he has done a lot of good. While most slimeball politicians are afraid to say things because people might disagree, Jackson (still a slimeball) is out there saying a bunch of crazy shit he actually believes.
The arguments he uses also seem logically consistent. While a very left wing candidate by US standards, he stuck to his guns about being pro-life because he thought that the arguments for pro-abortion were awfully similar to the arguments made for slavery - one person's rights (the mother) are worth more than another's (potential baby). His views change over time, but that's a good thing. If someone convinces you that your position is or was wrong, then you should change your position.

The down side is that he's still a politician and he does the same BS as every other politician. Overall, I would say Jackson is more good than bad.
 

cybrsage

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His encourages a racial divide, instead of trying to remove it. He is a cause of continued racism in this nation. That and his abject hated for Jews is well known.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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I'm not a conservative. And I don't have a problem with the Reverend Jackson.

And while sociology isn't my field, I have to wonder why the media seems to always portray the Reverend Jackson as the political equivalent of Flavor Flav. (Without the musical ability or the clocks though...)

Being a self serving attention whore by exploiting even the racially ridiculous is a pretty good reason.
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2012/06/21/fashion/adidas-cancels-release-of-shackle-sneakers.xml

He plays the race card like he made it and browbeats people and corporations into submission while making himself look like a righteous crusader. With people like him racism will never end.
 

davmat787

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Such a childish and disingenuous way to ask a question. If the OP was really interested in gaining a genuine answer, he never would have asked in such a manner.

I am guessing what he really wanted to hear was his supposed buddies say that the only reason that one would dislike JJ is because they are racist. Of course that backfired too, as many on the left pointed out legitimate reasons as well.

Way to go karmy! :thumbsup:
 

midwestfisherman

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Despite being a dick, he has done a lot of good. While most slimeball politicians are afraid to say things because people might disagree, Jackson (still a slimeball) is out there saying a bunch of crazy shit he actually believes.
The arguments he uses also seem logically consistent. While a very left wing candidate by US standards, he stuck to his guns about being pro-life because he thought that the arguments for pro-abortion were awfully similar to the arguments made for slavery - one person's rights (the mother) are worth more than another's (potential baby). His views change over time, but that's a good thing. If someone convinces you that your position is or was wrong, then you should change your position.

The down side is that he's still a politician and he does the same BS as every other politician. Overall, I would say Jackson is more good than bad.

Please enlighten us on exactly what good he has accomplished?
 

Geosurface

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I'm a liberal (though I admit I'm less of one than I was a few years ago) and I dislike Jesse Jackson especially post-Trayvon because I think he is a "race hustler" and also frankly I just don't feel he has a lot of intelligence. He has always struck me as a dim witted man. Sharpton is far, far stupider though. This is a problem I have with both of them.

It annoys me to see someone as palpably stupid as Al Sharpton having his own TV show, in much the same way that it annoyed me to see someone as palpably stupid as George W. Bush in the presidency. These sort of lofty positions of either political command, or media exposure should be reserved for the intelligent and educated so that that intelligence and education can inspire those without it who watch them.

Once you say oh you can be a total fucking idiot and still be president or a TV host, it undermines our society, it chips away at something very fundamental and important... respect for education and intelligence.

Now, I understand that white America holds blacks to a much lower standard in this regard, which is another thing I find repulsive. There's something very patronizing about whites looking at someone like Jesse Jackson and saying "oh look! that colored man can string a sentence together... kind of! he's the leader of the blacks! go, fetch him a crown! yes he'll do nicely!" it's insulting to blacks to not expect the same level of intellect and eloquence before someone would reach a position of such national prominence.

Now a lot of that I think is due to how long ago Jesse Jackson came on the scene, things have improved in that regard. Now someone like our president, who is LEAGUES smarter than Jesse Jackson, is a much better figurehead for blacks. To the degree that blacks even need to have figureheads... there's something inherently divisive and regressive about that very idea. It was an idea that made more sense 50 years ago than it does now, and hopefully once Jesse kicks the bucket, and Sharpton as well, there won't ever be any sort of replacement for them. It's not required anymore. It actually is COUNTER productive to black interests now.

Speaking of our president, when Jesse Jackson talked about wanting to cut Obama's nuts off, that made him lose many points with me. I happen to admire our president, even if my enthusiasm and fondness for him is a shadow of what it was in 2008.

Mind you, I'm not saying Jesse Jackson has never done anything positive. He helped free those ladies in North Korea or something didn't he?

There was a time when I sort of respected him by default because we were told to, you respect MLK, you respect Jesse Jackson, this was made very clear to white children when I was growing up. Upon further inspection, and actually looking at these individuals, and looking past the automatic unquestioned, mandated respect for them, it turned out MLK actually appeared to be worthy of it, though perhaps not ALL of it, and Jesse Jackson frankly did not. He is no fitting successor to MLK.
 

sportage

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Jesse marched for civil rights.
How about you foul mouthed Jesse haters?
No you say?
Then what the hell do you know about shit?
Jesse is an American icon. True blue American hero.
History will remember him as such.

You should have half the balls as jesse.
Go back to playing pac man on your DSI, I think your mommie is calling you.
 

dali71

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Jesse marched for civil rights.
How about you foul mouthed Jesse haters?
No you say?
Then what the hell do you know about shit?
Jesse is an American icon. True blue American hero.
History will remember him as such.

You should have half the balls as jesse.
Go back to playing pac man on your DSI, I think your mommie is calling you.

Jesse Jackson is a race-baiting media whore. That you hold him in such high regard speaks volumes about your character (or lack thereof).
 

Matt1970

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Jesse Jackson will come defend anyone's civil rights, hold rallies, stage protests and even lead a march....................That is as long as they are black.
 

waggy

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I used to be a HUGE fan of Jesse jackson. then grew up and seen some of the stuff he did.

In chicago he used the power of his Rainbow Push correlation to picket Budweiser. at least until they gave his son a huge distributorship on the outskirts of Chicago. Once his son got it he stopped picketing budweiser


That and the other stuff. the guy is a hypercrit. i think him and others like him do more harm then good.

Sad part is Jackson started off with for the right reasons, but i think the money got to him. So i won't forget the good stuff he did but won't ignore the BS he does now.