Conservatives Are Trying To Claim Pete Buttigieg Isn't Actually A Christian

[Jhhnn]

Sorry I didn't elaborate, but I meant for this to be included with #4.

It was #1 with Evangelicals. They're single issue voters.

 

[hal2kilo]

I think that depends on the person. The Church I found about 7 years ago has a gay pastor, no question about him being gay either.
He fits the congregation well, Prodestant Congragational Church so

Most Congregational churches I have visited in my past were pretty cool and laid back.

 

[Majes]

It was #1 with Evangelicals. They're single issue voters.

I think that's oversimplification. But I'm not arguing that it was a huge issue.

 

[tweaker2]

Most Christian conservatives have no idea what it means to be a real Christian. They are so out of touch with what Jesus preached. I bet Pete is more Jesus like that any republican conservative.

Hell, me as an atheist is more Jesus like than most Christians i know.

It's their hypocrisy that hurts everybody.

edit - That and in their struggles to be faithful, they'd like everybody else to act and think like them because The Word is The Word and we all should abide by them, well except (by their example) when it's convenient not to, of course. To name a few, Roy Moore, Rick Perry and every child molesting priest are perfect examples.

Believe what you want to believe and leave everybody else to make their own choices as it is a given gift for each and every blessed one of us I say.

 

[woolfe9998]

Students at Taylor University, an evangelical school in Indiana, protest Pence speaking there, sign a petition asking that his engagement be cancelled, saying "this is not my Jesus," and specifically mentioning Buttigieg as inspiration, sparking consternation from the religious right.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...-protest-pence-speech/?utm_term=.66087edd265a

I wonder if Buttigieg isn't on to something here. There may be inroads with younger Christians. I don't see this as something substantially affecting next years elections, but is the younger generation of Christians more open to liberal messaging, and are we seeing something which could have a more significant impact down the road?

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

Students at Taylor University, an evangelical school in Indiana, protest Pence speaking there, sign a petition asking that his engagement be cancelled, saying "this is not my Jesus," and specifically mentioning Buttigieg as inspiration, sparking consternation from the religious right.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...-protest-pence-speech/?utm_term=.66087edd265a

I wonder if Buttigieg isn't on to something here. There may be inroads with younger Christians. I don't see this as something substantially affecting next years elections, but is the younger generation of Christians more open to liberal messaging, and are we seeing something which could have a more significant impact down the road?

Wouldn't surprise me. While I was supposedly raised Christian, I was overtly disgusted even in my teens when I found out about the whole molestation crisis. I've concluded that I've always been atheist so a religious politician means nothing to me other than pandering, but I'd love to hear that the millennials/gen z's decide to basically abandon the idiocy of the 'religious right' and completely flip the script on what a religious politician is.

 

[woolfe9998]

Wouldn't surprise me. While I was supposedly raised Christian, I was overtly disgusted even in my teens when I found out about the whole molestation crisis. I've concluded that I've always been atheist so a religious politician means nothing to me other than pandering, but I'd love to hear that the millennials/gen z's decide to basically abandon the idiocy of the 'religious right' and completely flip the script on what a religious politician is.

These protesters probably already had liberal views before Buttigieg. IIRC the dems get about 15% of the evangelical vote. The significance here is that these young Christians are protesting Pence because of Buttigieg. He's raising their voice, which could be influential among their conservative peers.

But he's not encouraging them to renounce Christianity as you have done. Surveys show that while religious affiliation is on sharp decline and "no religion" is the fastest growing group, this increase has come at the expense of mainline protestants and to a lesser extent Catholics (both more moderate than evangelicals), while the evangelicals are holding pretty steady. Actually, they increased substantially between the early 70's and the early 90's, and have only slightly declined since. They're still around 22% of the population (14% in 1972). So Buttigieg has the right idea in arguing that they can be liberal and Christian at the same time.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

These protesters probably already had liberal views before Buttigieg. IIRC the dems get about 15% of the evangelical vote. The significance here is that these young Christians are protesting Pence because of Buttigieg. He's raising their voice, which could be influential among their conservative peers.

But he's not encouraging them to renounce Christianity as you have done. Surveys show that while religious affiliation is on sharp decline and "no religion" is the fastest growing group, this increase has come at the expense of mainline protestants and to a lesser extent Catholics (both more moderate than evangelicals), while the evangelicals are holding pretty steady. Actually, they increased substantially between the early 70's and the early 90's, and have only slightly declined since. They're still around 22% of the population (14% in 1972). So Buttigieg has the right idea in arguing that they can be liberal and Christian at the same time.

Right, that's kind of what I was saying. Not renouncing faith, but expressing that faith doesn't equate to the shit you've heard about over the years, and it doesn't require you to be a Republican (and all the connotations that come with that). Seeing a political spectrum flip on religion in America (and the world at large) would be an amazing thing.

 

[hal2kilo]

Students at Taylor University, an evangelical school in Indiana, protest Pence speaking there, sign a petition asking that his engagement be cancelled, saying "this is not my Jesus," and specifically mentioning Buttigieg as inspiration, sparking consternation from the religious right.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...-protest-pence-speech/?utm_term=.66087edd265a

I wonder if Buttigieg isn't on to something here. There may be inroads with younger Christians. I don't see this as something substantially affecting next years elections, but is the younger generation of Christians more open to liberal messaging, and are we seeing something which could have a more significant impact down the road?

Times, they are a changing. At least for the majority of American's when it comes to sexual orientation. Thank G....

 

[sandorski]

If we took the aggregate Christian definitions as to what makes one a Christian, no one is a Christian.

 

[UNCjigga]

Students at Taylor University, an evangelical school in Indiana, protest Pence speaking there, sign a petition asking that his engagement be cancelled, saying "this is not my Jesus," and specifically mentioning Buttigieg as inspiration, sparking consternation from the religious right.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...-protest-pence-speech/?utm_term=.66087edd265a

I wonder if Buttigieg isn't on to something here. There may be inroads with younger Christians. I don't see this as something substantially affecting next years elections, but is the younger generation of Christians more open to liberal messaging, and are we seeing something which could have a more significant impact down the road?

Older evangelicals have done a shit job of hiding the fact Jesus was a liberal socialist. Loaves and fishes, tossing out the bean counters indeed.

 

[thraashman]

Considering American conservative evangelism essentially started not due to religion but for the purposes of trying to protect segregation. It should shock absolutely nobody that evangelicals flock to the most racist President we've had in 100 years. American evangelism is entirely about white identity politics.