Connecting To Someone Else's Wireless...

Discussion in 'Networking' started by Crism, Sep 24, 2005.

  1. Crism

    Crism Senior member

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    Is it illegal to connect to a neighbor's wireless and use his internet? I did this while wardriving once and I could actually see and PRINT from their printer....kinda freaky eh? But is all of this illegal if the network is UNSECURED?
     
  2. RedCOMET

    RedCOMET Platinum Member

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    YES. Its illegal even if the network was secured.

    Think about it this way, if you rob somebody's house, was it justified becuase the front door was unlocked?
     
  3. George Powell

    George Powell Golden Member

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    Although I could never condone using anothers network this does raise a serious point though.

    An unsecured wireless network is usually because the primary user is unaware how to set their equipment up properly and so unless you the illegal user does something very dumb you are unlikely to get caught.

    An experienced user who knows about network security will use encryption and will probably add additional security to sensitive resources, such a user is far more likely to determine whether their network is being mis used or not.
     
  4. reicherb

    reicherb Platinum Member

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    I'm not saying it's legal but your analogy isn't exactly the same thing. If I'm sitting in my house and am able to connect to a signal they are broadcasting (onto my property) it's not exactly the same as physically entering their house.

     
  5. spidey07

    spidey07 No Lifer

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    Not this old tired argument again about how you can justify stealing and rationalize it.

    Gee, by that logic just pickup a 2.4 Ghz phone and make all the long distance/local/porn calls on your neighbors phone service.

    While your at it, steal his water and electricity.

    Heck, tap into his cable line as well.

    why not grab his dish signal?
    :roll:

    As far as i know it it illegal and people have been prosecuted.
     
  6. ruffilb

    ruffilb Diamond Member

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    The problem with this is that windows AUTOMATICALLY connects to unsecured networks: Even though I have mine set up, my laptop connects to the first available, which isn't always mine...
     
  7. n0cmonkey

    n0cmonkey Elite Member

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    That's a Windows problem, and you should contact Microsoft for a fix.

    Mac OS X and OpenBSD (the only other OSes I have wifi experience with) will connect to the first available, if they are _not_configured to connect to a particular network.
     
  8. OfficeLinebacker

    OfficeLinebacker Senior member

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    Again, poor analogies, because in most of those examples the neighbor would incur increased costs.

    Cable line/Dish signal, you're stealing from the cable company or the Dish network, not the neighbor.

    Again, not saying it is right, but you have to think about it more deeply than to just throw some poor examples at it.

    A better example would be what if your neighbor had a fountain of crystal clear water in his backyard, and you decided to drink from it on a regular basis when mowing your lawn? The water is on and running anyway; it's not costing him anything extra, but it IS his water.


    Again, not perfect, but better than yours, IMO.
     
  9. spidey07

    spidey07 No Lifer

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    Nope.

    Stealing is stealing. There is no rationalization for it.

    Seriously I'm starting to lose faith in society after being on AT for a while.
     
  10. reicherb

    reicherb Platinum Member

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    spidey07 is right.
     
  11. RedCOMET

    RedCOMET Platinum Member

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    spidey07 is right. Stealing is stealing. My analogy may not have been the best, but i think it can be valid... unsecured house and unsecured wireless network.
     
  12. n0cmonkey

    n0cmonkey Elite Member

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    I go into my neighbor's apartment, without their knowledge or permission, and watch their tv. I mean, it's there and all.
     
  13. Mark

    Mark Golden Member

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    can someone explain to me the meaning of wardriving? people go around looking for unsecured networks...then what? use thier internet? you can do that at home. im guessing there are other reasons....
     
  14. n0cmonkey

    n0cmonkey Elite Member

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    That's about it. Biggest benefit is that it isn't near your home so it's less likely they catch up to you when you do something you shouldn't.
     
  15. c3p0

    c3p0 Platinum Member

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    Google is your friend!!!

    Wardriving

    c3p0
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