Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Originally posted by: rchiu
First of all, who is killing our troops? I think we can all agree it's Saddam loyalist or Al-Qaeda.
Ok, so do those peole even read American media or give a $hit what American media says? If American media reports rosy stories about Iraq, while making American feel good about ourselves, does it make Saddam loyalist or Al-Qaeda less likely to kill our troop?
This is just another pathetic attemp of shifting blame from the Administration and people who supported this war in the first place to someboday, anybody. The admin and those senators/congressman, yes democrates too, are the ones costing lives by starting this war.
Are you 12?
Originally posted by: Nitemare
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
The media is costing us lives? OMG, are you actually serious? How would they ever do that? Did Geraldo whip out a .45 and cap someone's ass? :Q
Are you daft? The media is fueling anti-American sentiment in Iraq, quite like the Vietnam one that got alot of our boys killed, thanks media and hollywood.
Originally posted by: rchiu
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Originally posted by: rchiu
First of all, who is killing our troops? I think we can all agree it's Saddam loyalist or Al-Qaeda.
Ok, so do those peole even read American media or give a $hit what American media says? If American media reports rosy stories about Iraq, while making American feel good about ourselves, does it make Saddam loyalist or Al-Qaeda less likely to kill our troop?
This is just another pathetic attemp of shifting blame from the Administration and people who supported this war in the first place to someboday, anybody. The admin and those senators/congressman, yes democrates too, are the ones costing lives by starting this war.
Are you 12?
What, cann't face the fact that you and your warmongering admin are responsible for all the death and destruction? and you want to shut the media up so that no one sees what an ugly mess you have caused?
Hey everytime they capture a High Ranking Baath party member it's reported. Sure they could report about Soccer Games between the Brits and the Locals but for the most part that is in the back page because nobody really gives a sh!t.Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Originally posted by: rchiu
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Originally posted by: rchiu
First of all, who is killing our troops? I think we can all agree it's Saddam loyalist or Al-Qaeda.
Ok, so do those peole even read American media or give a $hit what American media says? If American media reports rosy stories about Iraq, while making American feel good about ourselves, does it make Saddam loyalist or Al-Qaeda less likely to kill our troop?
This is just another pathetic attemp of shifting blame from the Administration and people who supported this war in the first place to someboday, anybody. The admin and those senators/congressman, yes democrates too, are the ones costing lives by starting this war.
Are you 12?
What, cann't face the fact that you and your warmongering admin are responsible for all the death and destruction? and you want to shut the media up so that no one sees what an ugly mess you have caused?
You're the third or fourth illiterate liberal to think I suggested we not report the bad news.
Again I ask for a simple yes or no response. Is it unreasonable to ask the media to report the good along with the bad?
Please check here:
[] Yes
[] No
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
The media is costing us lives? OMG, are you actually serious? How would they ever do that? Did Geraldo whip out a .45 and cap someone's ass? :Q
Don't be stupid. For once.
People fight guerilla wars and employ terrorism not because it is a tactically sound way of defeating an enemy, but because the fight drags on and there are consistent casualties. This wears on the public who tire easily and are inclined to just give up rather than hear any more about it. The phrase is "the enemy of my enemy is my friend." In this case, the democratic party is the friend of the Islamic terrorists as they help portray the war as an illegal occupation that's on the verge of failing. Hearing such blather coming from Americans I'm sure gives terrorists reason to believe their plan is gradually working which encourages them not to stop. And WHY is the democratic party doing this? So they can try to take control of the White House...never has there been a more noble cause...bastards.
Don't be a condescending prick, for once. The Saddam loyalists and array of terrorists who have entered Iraq since our invasion, would fight a guerilla war regardless of what our media is doing. What? You want the media to censor itself? You don't want them reporting the facts? Damned if we're getting any actual facts from the administration. Americans rely on the media to let us know what's going on over there. No, I'm sorry, this is just another pathetic attempt by the war mongers to make us all fall in line.
In order to determine who's responsible for those kids coming back in body bags, you'd need to ask the administration, who simply nod their heads real slow and say "...making good progress..." like good little parrots. Blow it out your ass, hero.
This argument is about reporting the good AND the bad. Never once in this thread have I said we should censor the bad...stop posting replies to replies in your head...also known as the strawman fallacy of argumentation...or delirium.
Originally posted by: calbear2000
Originally posted by: Nitemare
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
The media is costing us lives? OMG, are you actually serious? How would they ever do that? Did Geraldo whip out a .45 and cap someone's ass? :Q
Are you daft? The media is fueling anti-American sentiment in Iraq, quite like the Vietnam one that got alot of our boys killed, thanks media and hollywood.
LOL... we lost in Vietnam because of Hollywood.
Dang Jews in the left-wing media
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
You're the third or fourth illiterate liberal to think I suggested we not report the bad news.
Again I ask for a simple yes or no response. Is it unreasonable to ask the media to report the good along with the bad?
Please check here:
[] Yes
[] No
Originally posted by: Nitemare
Originally posted by: calbear2000
Originally posted by: Nitemare
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
The media is costing us lives? OMG, are you actually serious? How would they ever do that? Did Geraldo whip out a .45 and cap someone's ass? :Q
Are you daft? The media is fueling anti-American sentiment in Iraq, quite like the Vietnam one that got alot of our boys killed, thanks media and hollywood.
LOL... we lost in Vietnam because of Hollywood.
Dang Jews in the left-wing media
I had forgotten about all the love thy troops rallies that were occuring in Hollywood around this time
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
The media is costing us lives? OMG, are you actually serious? How would they ever do that? Did Geraldo whip out a .45 and cap someone's ass? :Q
Don't be stupid. For once.
People fight guerilla wars and employ terrorism not because it is a tactically sound way of defeating an enemy, but because the fight drags on and there are consistent casualties. This wears on the public who tire easily and are inclined to just give up rather than hear any more about it. The phrase is "the enemy of my enemy is my friend." In this case, the democratic party is the friend of the Islamic terrorists as they help portray the war as an illegal occupation that's on the verge of failing. Hearing such blather coming from Americans I'm sure gives terrorists reason to believe their plan is gradually working which encourages them not to stop. And WHY is the democratic party doing this? So they can try to take control of the White House...never has there been a more noble cause...bastards.
Don't be a condescending prick, for once. The Saddam loyalists and array of terrorists who have entered Iraq since our invasion, would fight a guerilla war regardless of what our media is doing. What? You want the media to censor itself? You don't want them reporting the facts? Damned if we're getting any actual facts from the administration. Americans rely on the media to let us know what's going on over there. No, I'm sorry, this is just another pathetic attempt by the war mongers to make us all fall in line.
In order to determine who's responsible for those kids coming back in body bags, you'd need to ask the administration, who simply nod their heads real slow and say "...making good progress..." like good little parrots. Blow it out your ass, hero.
This argument is about reporting the good AND the bad. Never once in this thread have I said we should censor the bad...stop posting replies to replies in your head...also known as the strawman fallacy of argumentation...or delirium.
I didn't say you did, I simply asked. No fallacy in asking, is there? Frankly though hero, requiring (or even expecting) the media to report what you want them to report is censorship. There's a lot of bad news coming out of Iraq lately. There's good news too, I see it in the media all the time. But if you want a rosy glow spin on the Iraqi situation, just listen to any administration briefing. The way I see it, the media balances out the government, whose sole job is to spin the positive and show what a "great" job we're doing in Iraq.
The falsely bleak picture weakens our national resolve, discourages Iraqi cooperation and emboldens our enemy.
Originally posted by: Nitemare
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
The media is costing us lives? OMG, are you actually serious? How would they ever do that? Did Geraldo whip out a .45 and cap someone's ass? :Q
Are you daft? The media is fueling anti-American sentiment in Iraq, quite like the Vietnam one that got alot of our boys killed, thanks media and hollywood.
Originally posted by: rchiu
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
You're the third or fourth illiterate liberal to think I suggested we not report the bad news.
Again I ask for a simple yes or no response. Is it unreasonable to ask the media to report the good along with the bad?
Please check here:
[] Yes
[] No
BS, don't change your tune because you can't support your own argument. By arguing for the "media is costing us lives" crap, you are saying somehow media report is related to how many of our guys are killed in Iraq and the media is responsibile for the death overthere (as well as Vietnamn) If you truely surpport the statement, tell me if this make sense. You are asking for the media to report the good along with the bad. But the bad causes lives. So as long as media report the good too, it's ok to cause a few lives here and there?
Really? Did you base this on your personal conversations with the majority of Iraqis or did Rush whisper in your ear? Or maybe you just pulled it out of your 4ss because it's what you want to believe.Originally posted by: AndrewR
I will make this simple for you since that's obviously on your level. If the media were to report the entire story with adequate weight given to good and bad, it would be apparent that our occupation and reconstruction efforts are being welcomed in Iraq by a vast majority of the people there, [ ... ]
Heaven forbid we should be deceived by ignoramuses spouting nonsense. Thank God we have you sitting back here on your couch to give us all the "big picture".[ ... ] and it would discourage foreign fighters from intervening with the assumption that the population will support their attacks on the Coalition forces. Further, the revelation, to those who rely on the biased media at least, that the reconstruction is going well would likely change some people's opinions in the U.S. and reduce the amount of criticism being leveled at the White House and the Pentagon and would give our troops on the ground a better overall picture of what is happening since most are confined to particular areas and don't have the "big picture".
How about pompous twit? Are those words too big for you?Sorry, I used some big words in there -- muddle through as best you can.
Thank God we have you sitting back here on your couch to give us all the "big picture".
Originally posted by: phillyTIM
boo hoo ... we force freedom & democracy down a country's throat with an aircraft carrier & guns, yet bush's regime wants to put a gag-order/blackout on the press
that sure makes sense lol
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
We need real information on that issue not covering or exposing ass.