Someone actually introducing a bill to decriminalize pot is pretty impressive. It should be legalized and heavily taxed. We could eliminate the national debt. It will never pass. It's just a pipe dream.
I hope it passes. Though i dont expect Bush to sign it into law. Maybe Obama will when it comes up again.
this is already the case in NY. its less than 100 g is the equivalent of a speeding ticket. Not requiring an arrest and fingerprinting etc...simply issued a tickets summons with a fine.
Fixed. But this being passed is only the first step. Although I don't see it passing because of the super religious bible thumpers prohibiting "sin". Even if by some luck that it does pass, then it would also need to be rescheduled as well. Just as ayabe stated.
Red Dawn
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Well you might be right as I haven't indulged and many years but when I was last smoking dope I remember that there were some pretty potent stuff that'd make you forget where the fuck you were. I just figured that some enterprising individuals would have taken it up a few nothches over the years.
That said I don't give a shit as long as nobodies driving under the influence of it and if they are they are prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law if caught.
bamacre
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bamacre
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Drug laws should NOT be enforced at the federal level. The Constitution gives the federal government NO authority here. All drug laws should be done at the state level.
It is a damn shame that several, 13 IIRC, of our 50 states have legalized medical marijuana only to be overruled by the federal government.
It is a damn shame that several, 13 IIRC, of our 50 states have legalized medical marijuana only to be overruled by the federal government.
Here is that update I was waiting on:
"President Bush's drug warriors must really, really want to protect their ability to throw non-violent marijuana users in jail.
The White House sent at least three party crashers to a press conference Wednesday with Rep. Barney Frank (D-MA), who has introduced a pot-decriminalization bill.
The Office of National Drug Control Policy's "chief scientist" and two aides who were dispatched to provide instant rebuttal to Frank and the bill's cosponsors, all of whom acknowledged that marijuana was likely to remain very much illegal in the foreseeable future.
Given the bill's essentially non-existent chances of passage, ONDCP's Dr. David Murray's impassioned arguments that seemed more appropriate in Reefer Madness were greeted with plenty of puzzled glances.
Why did the White House feel it necessary to send at least three staffers to Capitol Hill to place in every reporter's hand a copy of its 20-page, color-copied "2008 Marijuana Sourcebook?" RAW STORY posed this question to Murray.
"It is our responsibility to be aware of policy developments," said Murray, who clarified that he had a PhD and was not a medical doctor. He explained that Frank's attempt to modify the controlled substances act was very much of interest to the Bush administration's pot prohibitionists.
The Marijuana Policy Project's Rob Kampia, who stuck around to listen to Murray's post-press conference diatribe, said he suspected ulterior motives behind the propagandistic pontificating.
"Nothing's going to happen on this before he loses his job," the decriminalization advocate said, acknowledging that Frank's bill won't move forward until at least next year, when President Bush -- and his appointees -- would be out of office. "This is him emptying the clip.""
RawStory
There is a video and some photos in that link as well.
"President Bush's drug warriors must really, really want to protect their ability to throw non-violent marijuana users in jail.
The White House sent at least three party crashers to a press conference Wednesday with Rep. Barney Frank (D-MA), who has introduced a pot-decriminalization bill.
The Office of National Drug Control Policy's "chief scientist" and two aides who were dispatched to provide instant rebuttal to Frank and the bill's cosponsors, all of whom acknowledged that marijuana was likely to remain very much illegal in the foreseeable future.
Given the bill's essentially non-existent chances of passage, ONDCP's Dr. David Murray's impassioned arguments that seemed more appropriate in Reefer Madness were greeted with plenty of puzzled glances.
Why did the White House feel it necessary to send at least three staffers to Capitol Hill to place in every reporter's hand a copy of its 20-page, color-copied "2008 Marijuana Sourcebook?" RAW STORY posed this question to Murray.
"It is our responsibility to be aware of policy developments," said Murray, who clarified that he had a PhD and was not a medical doctor. He explained that Frank's attempt to modify the controlled substances act was very much of interest to the Bush administration's pot prohibitionists.
The Marijuana Policy Project's Rob Kampia, who stuck around to listen to Murray's post-press conference diatribe, said he suspected ulterior motives behind the propagandistic pontificating.
"Nothing's going to happen on this before he loses his job," the decriminalization advocate said, acknowledging that Frank's bill won't move forward until at least next year, when President Bush -- and his appointees -- would be out of office. "This is him emptying the clip.""
RawStory
There is a video and some photos in that link as well.
Drugs affect consciousness. Anything that affects the status quo is evil. Conservatives hate drugs for that reason. One puff and everything you were taught you realize is total shit. Drugs are like Jesus. They bring a sword to family ties and cause you to follow the Will of God. Conservatives were taught their culture and their parents are God. That's a terrible thing to teach in an age of change. Some of those poor kids will smoke something and go crazy.
Legalize it and then Tax it.
People forget that MJ was legal at one point and not looked upon as anything.
People forget that MJ was legal at one point and not looked upon as anything.
TastesLikeChicken
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Bible thumpers. Conservatives. Blah, blah, blah. The bullshit stereotypes are rampant here. People who smoke mj, and those who are adamantly opposed to it, cross all social, religious, and political boundries. To attempt to lay blame on one group in particular is merely blindered spewage of your own idealistic hate (Moonbeam?)
Props to Barney Frank for doing this. I doubt there's a snowball's chance in hell of this bill passing but if that piñata gets beat enough times, eventually it'll break apart.
Props to Barney Frank for doing this. I doubt there's a snowball's chance in hell of this bill passing but if that piñata gets beat enough times, eventually it'll break apart.
Drugs cause people to think, and the government doesn't want people thinking. What they usually start thinking is that their government is fucking them.
In regards to politicians that lean towards the liberal side more, I find it difficult to conclude how they truly feel about the marijuana issue including Clinton. It is such a taboo subject when brought up in politics that I wonder if most hide their true feelings so they can avoid political suicide and are just counting on someone else tackling the matter in the future when the idea becomes more politically acceptable. I don't really know for sure though. It's just a theory.
Ignorance isn't limited to any particular group.
Reading some of the opposing comments on CNN, I really wonder what some of these people would do if it were truly legal, I think their heads would explode.
Like this guy:
"It didn't take long for the pot-heads going no where in life to respond with applause. "Arrestees can lose jobs, financial aid, food stamps and housing" If you need financial aid and food stamps, maybe spending your money on pot shouldn't be your first priority. Then again, no one ever accused pot heads of thinking clearly or making good choices in the first place. You can already get it 'legally' in California anyways. Just go to any one of the so called Mary-J "Doctors" and just get a "prescription". They won't even ask you any questions or give you a check up...you just walk in and walk out. Just another reason California is a complete joke. Have fun living in your self-absorbed little smoke-filled world. Ignorance is bliss, ain't it pot heads?"
Gotta love that first line. This guy would shit a brick if he found out his boss smokes a joint everyday, or his Congressman, or his pastor.
There are a hell of a lot more smokers out there than anyone is willing to admit.
Anubis
No Lifer
Ya, no kidding. I doubt this country will see hardly any real changes if it is just legalized already.
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