Congratulations! You won!

[spittledip]

Even religious-backed government like they have in the middle east doesn't stop the immoral. What propagates immorality is something this and most governments completely ignore. They all seem to believe laws govern the people and that by military force they can enforce those laws, but they ignore the hearts.

No disagreement here.

 

[Malak]

1) Term limits on all politicians including congress and judges: no more Kennedy's, no more untouchable incumbents, no more planting seeds in the courts, etc. Why should my liberty suffer because I'm outnumbered by stupid people?

Term limits ruin the government actually. Politicians are more worried then about re-election and what they can do to market themselves rather than actually being concerned with the welfare of the nation. The biggest issues require long term plans and no politician cares because of term limits.

2) Mandatory sunset on all legislation: make sure all laws are relevant to the current generation and eliminate the threat of slippery slopes and end progressive "get your foot in the door" Pelosi politics. I don't like being bound by laws that were created 100 years before I was born that have zero chance of ever being brought up again (eg: NFA), especially laws that were hastily passed purely on irrational emotion after some big event. Then it doesn't matter who gets elected or what damage they cause, because it will expire and at some point in one persons lifetime he/she will be able to have that abortion or get that assault rifle and not fear one way ratcheting slippery slopes.

Agreed, let's burn the constitution.

3) No unrelated amendments to bills: no more sneaking in crap with desirable bills to get it passed unknowingly at the last second and bypassing committee and skipping debate. No more bills titled "For X and other purposes" where X is providing money to school children while "other purposes" is banning guns, cars, and big screen TVs and giving congress a 500 percent raise while touting an "education" bill.

What's worse is half the politicians don't bother reading it because they go with whatever their party says. The parties have to be removed before this can be fixed.

 

[lord_emperor]

Name one crime that has ever been stopped because of a law. Laws justify judgment, they don't stop crime. Remove the laws, and you remove the leash on Justice.

If nothing is legally defined who decides what to go to court over? Can my neighbour take me to court for parking a little crooked? If he does does a judge/tribunal/jury decide what happens? What if they all happen to be people who don't like me becaue I'm [ethnic group] and they judge against me and decide I should be executed?

 

[Malak]

If nothing is legally defined who decides what to go to court over? Can my neighbour take me to court for parking a little crooked? If he does does a judge/tribunal/jury decide what happens? What if they all happen to be people who don't like me becaue I'm [ethnic group] and they judge against me and decide I should be executed?

A case like parking crooked would never seen the inside of a court room, case denied. Racist judges won't exist. There are no juries.

 

[Craig234]

In short, when it comes to government, all roads lead to ruin.

But what's worse than almost any of them is 'no government'.

 

[Malak]

But what's worse than almost any of them is 'no government'.

Self-government. Prove it doesn't work.

 

[BurnItDwn]

Sweet ... I would have a badass and super oppressive Autocracy. I would have like 50,000 concubines. I'm pretty sure that I would be assassinated as soon as somebody had a chance, and that my name would be followed by "the terrible" within days of my taking control.

 

[cwjerome]

Self-government. Prove it doesn't work.

What is self-government?

 

[werepossum]

Implement the US system again but with 3 major changes:

1) Term limits on all politicians including congress and judges: no more Kennedy's, no more untouchable incumbents, no more planting seeds in the courts, etc. Why should my liberty suffer because I'm outnumbered by stupid people?

2) Mandatory sunset on all legislation: make sure all laws are relevant to the current generation and eliminate the threat of slippery slopes and end progressive "get your foot in the door" Pelosi politics. I don't like being bound by laws that were created 100 years before I was born that have zero chance of ever being brought up again (eg: NFA), especially laws that were hastily passed purely on irrational emotion after some big event. Then it doesn't matter who gets elected or what damage they cause, because it will expire and at some point in one persons lifetime he/she will be able to have that abortion or get that assault rifle and not fear one way ratcheting slippery slopes.

3) No unrelated amendments to bills: no more sneaking in crap with desirable bills to get it passed unknowingly at the last second and bypassing committee and skipping debate. No more bills titled "For X and other purposes" where X is providing money to school children while "other purposes" is banning guns, cars, and big screen TVs and giving congress a 500 percent raise while touting an "education" bill.

Those 3 things alone would eliminate the source of a lot of problems we currently face.

I like that a LOT. If we weren't a bunch of whiny whores demanding gifts then this would be the new Contract With America and both parties were fighting over it.

 

[JS80]

No form of government is useful unless the people comply. Look at the US Constitution. It's arguably the "best" system a large society can have but even then if the people in the system treat it like toilet paper what good is it? What it ultimately comes down to is how much can the 51% of the population vote to steal from the other 49% without the 49% eventually saying fuck you and stop bending over. How much extortion will the productive pay to placate the unproductive? We are witnessing this in live history. It looks like 40% taxation rate is the tipping point.