Congratulations Earthlings! Carbon dioxide reaches record high over millions of years.

Thebobo

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Woot, I think we should throw a party, hopefully they try and get a comment out of Pruitt about this, wonder what he will say. But unfortunately the whole trump administration is diametrically opposed to the concerns of the rest of the planet.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/we-just-breached-the-410-ppm-threshold-for-co2/

"We Just Breached the 410 PPM Threshold for CO2
Carbon dioxide has not reached this height in millions of years
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On Tuesday, the Mauna Loa Observatory recorded its first-ever carbon dioxide reading in excess of 410 parts per million (it was 410.28 ppm in case you want the full deal). Carbon dioxide hasn’t reached that height in millions of years. It’s a new atmosphere that humanity will have to contend with, one that’s trapping more heat and causing the climate to change at a quickening rate.

In what’s become a spring tradition like Passover and Easter, carbon dioxide has set a record high each year since measurements began. It stood at 280 ppm when record keeping began at Mauna Loa in 1958. In 2013, it passed 400 ppm. Just four years later, the 400 ppm mark is no longer a novelty. It’s the norm.

“Its pretty depressing that it’s only a couple of years since the 400 ppm milestone was toppled,” Gavin Foster, a paleoclimate researcher at the University of Southampton told Climate Central last month. “These milestones are just numbers, but they give us an opportunity to pause and take stock and act as useful yard sticks for comparisons to the geological record.”
 

ivwshane

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Well there is always Mars! I mean if we can't take care of this planet, I'm sure we will be able to do what's necessary to create and maintain an environment which is habitable by humans on Mars.


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Thebobo

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* The ‘Mini Ice Age’ Hoopla Is A Giant Failure Of Science Communication
http://www.iflscience.com/environment/mini-ice-age-hoopla-giant-failure-science-communication/

I see your link with no corroborating text and raise you another with explanation.

While there is always room for new evidence you have to differentiate between facts and predictions.

It is a fact that the CO2 level has reached record highs.

It is a prediction that the there will be a mini ice age. But apparently not so, see above *
 

cytg111

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Well there is always Mars! I mean if we can't take care of this planet, I'm sure we will be able to do what's necessary to create and maintain an environment which is habitable by humans on Mars.


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Cutting our teeth terraforming planet mars might just save this one. Just saying.
 

UNCjigga

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Cutting our teeth terraforming planet mars might just save this one. Just saying.

Is that realistic though? If the technology was feasible, Monsanto or ADM would have started terraforming the Sahara by now.
 
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* The ‘Mini Ice Age’ Hoopla Is A Giant Failure Of Science Communication
http://www.iflscience.com/environment/mini-ice-age-hoopla-giant-failure-science-communication/

I see your link with no corroborating text and raise you another with explanation.

While there is always room for new evidence you have to differentiate between facts and predictions.

It is a fact that the CO2 level has reached record highs.

It is a prediction that the there will be a mini ice age. But apparently not so, see above *

This is fun isn't it? :)
 
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WelshBloke

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Cutting our teeth terraforming planet mars might just save this one. Just saying.
We can't even sustain a planet thats perfectly suited to us, the idea that we can turn a hostile planet into a liveable one and sustain that is unlikely.
 
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Jaskalas

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We can't even sustain a planet thats perfectly suited to us, the idea that we can turn a hostile planet into a liveable one and sustain that is unlikely.

On the contrary, there'd only be hundreds, MAYBE thousands of humans on Mars. Freedom and Profit would be low on the list, far below basic survival. You'd be amazed at what we can accomplish if we put ignorance and feelings aside.
 
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mindless1

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The 'imminent mini ice age' myth is back, and it's still wrong

https://www.theguardian.com/environ...mini-ice-age-myth-is-back-and-its-still-wrong

The 'mini ice age' hoopla is a giant failure of science communication

https://phys.org/news/2015-07-mini-ice-age-hoopla-giant.html

That was fun.
It would be rather foolish to think that there won't be another ice age. The only question is when, then along comes global warming. I guess I have to hold people's hands and lead them because they'll never connect the dots otherwise.
 

cytg111

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Is that realistic though? If the technology was feasible, Monsanto or ADM would have started terraforming the Sahara by now.
Terraforming is a planet wide event. Imagine EU USA China Russia etc etc agreeing on a ppm co2 level? Some stand to loose some to gain with global warming.. its not an easy diplomatic task... Hence the big guns.
 
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It would be rather foolish to think that there won't be another ice age. The only question is when, then along comes global warming. I guess I have to hold people's hands and lead them because they'll never connect the dots otherwise.

ROFL
 

ivwshane

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Terraforming is a planet wide event. Imagine EU USA China Russia etc etc agreeing on a ppm co2 level? Some stand to loose some to gain with global warming.. its not an easy diplomatic task... Hence the big guns.

You mean like the Paris climate accord? I'd say the diplomatic part is probably magnitudes easier than terraforming another planet to make it livable.
 
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brycejones

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It would be rather foolish to think that there won't be another ice age. The only question is when, then along comes global warming. I guess I have to hold people's hands and lead them because they'll never connect the dots otherwise.

Your credentials for this grand educational endeavor you have have undertaken are?
 

cytg111

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You mean like the Paris climate accord? I'd say the diplomatic part is probably magnitudes easier than terraforming another planet to make it livable.

I totally disagree. A 180 crazy Ivan. Diplomacy on a n-ppm is never gonna happen *here*.
I agree in the sense that it SHOULD be, yea, but... no.