Congratulations, China!

senseamp

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http://news.trust.org/item/20180530095854-yyedp
GENEVA, May 30 (Reuters) - China has overtaken the United States in healthy life expectancy at birth for the first time, according to World Health Organization data.

Chinese newborns can look forward to 68.7 years of healthy life ahead of them, compared with 68.5 years for American babies, the data - which relates to 2016 - showed.

American newborns can still expect to live longer overall - 78.5 years compared to China's 76.4 - but the last 10 years of American lives are not expected to be healthy.

Good job!
 

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Once they clean up their pollution and go all renewable energy I'm sure they'll pass us in overall health expectancy as well.

I'd hope we do something to improve our situation, but the pessimist in me says we'll just thump our chest saying something about American Exceptionalism and how it's more important than anything else.
 

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They also spend $500 per capita on health care vs $10,000 for the US. I'd say they are doing a pretty good job.
 

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They also spend $500 per capita on health care vs $10,000 for the US. I'd say they are doing a pretty good job.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthcare_in_China
Healthcare in China consists of both public and private medical institutions and insurance programs. About 95% of the population has at least basic health insurance coverage. Despite this, public health insurance generally only covers about half of medical costs, with the proportion lower for serious or chronic illnesses. Under the "Healthy China 2020" initiative, China is currently undertaking an effort to cut healthcare costs, and the government requires that insurance will cover 70% of costs by the end of 2018.[1][2][2] The Chinese government is working on providing affordable basic healthcare to all residents by 2020.[3] China has also become a major market for health-related multinational companies. Companies such as AstraZeneca, GlaxoSmithKline, Eli Lilly, and Merck entered the Chinese market and have experienced explosive growth. China has also become a growing hub for health care research and development.[4]

They even do healthcare better than us.
 

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They also spend $500 per capita on health care vs $10,000 for the US. I'd say they are doing a pretty good job.
Is their medicine socialized as much as their government? Would they refuse to spend $1 million to cure one person when they could spend $1 per person to cure 1 million people? Or is capitalism involved in their health care too?

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senseamp

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Once they clean up their pollution and go all renewable energy I'm sure they'll pass us in overall health expectancy as well.
I'd hope we do something to improve our situation, but the pessimist in me says we'll just thump our chest saying something about American Exceptionalism and how it's more important than anything else.

Yep, especially with us now trying to bring back coal plants that China is phasing out. I am sure we'll get passed by a lot of countries before.
Here is the map of who is probably going to be passing us next:
http://www.who.int/gho/mortality_burden_disease/life_tables/hale/en/
Looks like Mexico, probably.
 

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Is their medicine socialized as much as their government? Would they refuse to spend $1 million to cure one person when they could spend $1 per person to cure 1 million people? Or is capitalism involved in their health care too?
Edit: Ninja'd by @Homerboy
It's a mix of socialized and private, as is ours. Our government costs about 20x per capita as much as theirs, and so does our private sector.
 

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Yep, especially with us now trying to bring back coal plants that China is phasing out. I am sure we'll get passed by a lot of countries before.
Here is the map of who is probably going to be passing us next:
http://www.who.int/gho/mortality_burden_disease/life_tables/hale/en/
Looks like Mexico, probably.

Mexico is quite a good analogy for where we are headed. Extreme disparities in income and standards of living, radical right-wing government, rampant drug problems. Mexico is a perfect analogy except it lacks the sanctimonious "we are #1" mentality that pervades in the country.


We're gonna be like Mexico except we will talk about ourselves like we are the only superpower.
 

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To be fair to the US a lot of that has to do with the Opioid epidemic. Which we are not doing much about ~
 

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Wow, and this is even with residents of Beijing and a few other locales being forced to wear face masks in public because the pollution is so bad!

China needs more first-world problems, like obesity, heart disease, diabetes, cancer etc. so we can even the playing field...
 

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Wow, and this is even with residents of Beijing and a few other locales being forced to wear face masks in public because the pollution is so bad!

China needs more first-world problems, like obesity, heart disease, diabetes, cancer etc. so we can even the playing field...

and with roughly 4 times as many total (1.3B compared to 340M)
 

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Yep, especially with us now trying to bring back coal plants that China is phasing out. I am sure we'll get passed by a lot of countries before.
Here is the map of who is probably going to be passing us next:
http://www.who.int/gho/mortality_burden_disease/life_tables/hale/en/
Looks like Mexico, probably.
There are no new coal plants planned for the US. China is phasing out older plants but is building new, more efficient units. Currently under construction in China are 220 coal fired units (note these are units, not plants - a coal fired plant can have several units)

https://endcoal.org/global-coal-plant-tracker/summary-statistics/

Data is your friend. Be accurate to be respected.
 

senseamp

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There are no new coal plants planned for the US. China is phasing out older plants but is building new, more efficient units. Currently under construction in China are 220 coal fired units (note these are units, not plants - a coal fired plant can have several units)

https://endcoal.org/global-coal-plant-tracker/summary-statistics/

Data is your friend. Be accurate to be respected.
Trump wants to force utilities to buy coal power. It's in another thread.
 

dphantom

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Trump wants to force utilities to buy coal power. It's in another thread.
Buying power and bringing back or building new coal fired plants are 2 quite different things.

I would like to see a link to the quote where Trump said he was going to force utilities to buy power generated by coal plants. I have not found it but since you referenced it perhaps you could share the link to the direct quote.
 

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Buying power and bringing back or building new coal fired plants are 2 quite different things.

I would like to see a link to the quote where Trump said he was going to force utilities to buy power generated by coal plants. I have not found it but since you referenced it perhaps you could share the link to the direct quote.
never mind. I found the story. am looking at it now
 

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Good things can happen when you don't have evangelicals and republican priorities to contend with.

Meanwhile, American women just got another a resounding FU in Arkansas.