Confused about 4k and hdcp 2.2

[thestrangebrew1]

So I'm really close to pulling the trigger on a vizio m70-d3 display. I'm not familiar with the whole 4k thing, but as I understand it, if I want to watch something in 4k, I need at least an hdmi port that's 2.0 capable. But if I want to watch something like a 4k blu ray (or whatever they're called now), then the source I'm playing the media from has to be hdcp 2.2, my receiver the media is going through has to be hdcp 2.2 AND the tv needs to have a hdcp 2.2 hdmi port? So what if I want to stream a 4k show from netflix? it will just display at 1080p because I don't have anything with hdcp 2.2?

The vizio only has 1 hdmi 2.0 port. Should I look elsewhere?

Edit: here are the "tech specs" on the ports:

HDMI Inputs

HDMI Ports5 (2 side; 3 down)
VersionPort 1 supports: v2.0; Ports 2-5 supports: v1.4
HDMI 1 Tech Spec600MHz pixel clock rate:
2160p@60fps, 4:4:4, 8-bit
2160p@60fps, 4:2:2, 12-bit
2160p@60fps, 4:2:0, 12-bit
HDMI 2-4 Tech Specs340MHz pixel clock rate:
2160@60fps 4:2:0 8 bit
HDMI 5 Tech Specs370MHz pixel clock rate:
2160p@60fps, 4:2:2, 8-bit
2160p@60fps, 4:2:0, 10-bit
080p@120fps, 4:4:4, 10-bit
1080p@fps120, 4:2:2, 12-bit

 

[mdram]

hdcp 2.2 is the copy protection method.
hdmi 2.0 or 2.0a is a hardware standard

you have to have hdmi 2.0 to get hdcp 2.2

now that said, if its a smart tv and you stream via the tv it shouldnt matter

but if you coming from cable/br/sat/ect then everything in the chain has to have the same hdmi2.0 hdcp2.2

 

[thestrangebrew1]

Thanks it helped. I went ahead and got the tv and I have a receiver on order. Should be here in a few days.

 

[Fallen Kell]

Also don't worry so much about the receiver. Most of the blu-ray players have 2 HDMI outputs, one for your receiver, and one for the TV. The receiver doesn't need hdmi 2.0 as long as your blu-ray player has 2 outputs, you can connect the blu-ray player to the receiver (as long as the receiver is HDMI 1.3/1.4, it will still be able to decode the Dolby-TrueHD and DTS-HD).

Only the TV needs to have HDMI 2.0 and hdcp 2.2 when configured this way.

 

[mdram]

Also don't worry so much about the receiver. Most of the blu-ray players have 2 HDMI outputs, one for your receiver, and one for the TV. The receiver doesn't need hdmi 2.0 as long as your blu-ray player has 2 outputs, you can connect the blu-ray player to the receiver (as long as the receiver is HDMI 1.3/1.4, it will still be able to decode the Dolby-TrueHD and DTS-HD).

Only the TV needs to have HDMI 2.0 and hdcp 2.2 when configured this way.

how many true 4k blue ray players are there atm?

 

[blackangst1]

how many true 4k blue ray players are there atm?

Lots. And Im not sure what you mean by "true 4k".

 

[thestrangebrew1]

Too late. Already sprung for a receiver lol. Anyways, I just used my ps3 as a blu ray player, and we rarely even used that. Most of my movie watching comes from my htpc and streaming.

To be clear, Vizio updated their website and now reports the following about the hdmi inputs:

HDMI Ports5 (2 side; 3 down)
HDMI VersionPort 1 supports: v2.0; Ports 2-5 supports: v1.4
HDCP VersionPorts 1- 4 supports: v2.2; Port 5 supports: v2.0
HDMI 1 Tech Spec600MHz pixel clock rate:
2160p@60fps, 4:4:4, 8-bit
2160p@60fps, 4:2:2, 12-bit
2160p@60fps, 4:2:0, 12-bit
HDMI 2-4 Tech Specs340MHz pixel clock rate:
2160@60fps 4:2:0 8 bit
HDMI 5 Tech Specs370MHz pixel clock rate:
2160p@60fps, 4:2:2, 8-bit
2160p@60fps, 4:2:0, 10-bit
080p@120fps, 4:4:4, 10-bit
1080p@fps120, 4:2:2, 12-bit

 

[razel]

Just got my the 4K Vizio D series a few weeks ago. If you are interested in support for HDR10 or Dolby Vision, do not get the M series. It's future support doesn't look good and even if they added it, its display is not enough to show much of it to you. So save your money and go D series or go OLED to appreciate any of the HDR formats. Your TV will not be obsolete if it doesn't support it. As long as it has HDMI with HDCP 2.2 (I think) it will be future proof for the 4k era. Nearly all decent 4K 2016 TVs are.

Also 4k is hard to avoid when buying a new TV, I have upped my recommendation that it's primarily necessary at 70" and above. 65" is still the gray area where most people may start to notice, but many may still not pay for it.

Only nags so far with the Vizio. Only one input handles 4K 60hz. Rest are all 4k 30hz. Not an issue if you have a receiver and run your inputs through that. Interlace detection/correction is a bit slow. This isn't an issue if you don't know what to look for or don't output raw 480i DVD content. If the size of the TV is big enough 1080i might be noticeable too, only if you know what to look for.

Otherwise I'm beyond happy with the Vizio. Not major issues I've found in cheap TVs which are:

+ The anti-glare coating. It doesn't darken toward purple like better ones, but at least it's not full on glass glare.
+ No fan! Runs cool... very very cool compared to my old plasma where I can feel the warmth if I put my hand above or behind the TV.
+ built in Smart TV app like Amazon support 4K. Suppodily other apps support 4k like YouTube, but it was flakey. I suspect app updates to fix it.

A tip when you get your 4k TV. It's a great test for your HDMI cables. 4K output seemed flakey with my receiver upscaling and Roku 4. Fine with my computer otherwise. Out of curiousity I swapped cables and everything worked outright. Funny. The cable from my receiver to TV was shorter and newer than the longer, older cable from my laptop to TV. Oh well. You just have to try.

 

[mdram]

Lots. And Im not sure what you mean by "true 4k".

there are 4k upscaling, and true 4k uhd that play uhd disk.
an upscaling will not play a uhd disk

 

[blackangst1]

there are 4k upscaling, and true 4k uhd that play uhd disk.
an upscaling will not play a uhd disk

Really?

 

[mdram]

Really?

thats a true uhd blue ray, the only one on the market at this time iirc

then you have upscaling ones such as this

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/sony-bd...lack/7155015.p?id=1219668784403&skuId=7155015