Conflict between rich and poor strongest in 24 years

[dmcowen674]

Dave, I've posted many times about where I came from and how I made decisions that got me to where I'm at. I'm not rich or perfect but I try to live my life in a fashion that allows me to affect my direction - not allow others to decide for me. I was dirt poor for a few years before making a move that allowed me to take control of my destiny. Basically I grew up and took responsibility for myself and my family - no more excuses. Hopefully someday you'll have that moment so you can live a happier and more fulfilling life. Good luck.

Bullcrap.

You either got lucky and/or networked with someone that has money.

I highly doubt you were 100% responsible for digging out from the "dirt poor".

Based on your posts that you have relatives in Politics I would guess it is the latter.

 

[AyashiKaibutsu]

None, of course. But how in the world could our government prevent a company from relocating? They could no more force a company to stay as they could no more force a person to stay.

They couldn't stop them from moving. They could limit their ability to operate in the US as a now foreign entity.

 

[blackangst1]

They couldn't stop them from moving. They could limit their ability to operate in the US as a now foreign entity.

Well now we're getting into fantasy land, and way off topic. Back to your point about corporations not being mentioned specifically in the constitution...well, neither is age of consent. Does that mean constitutionally I can bonk my 14 year old neighbor?

And back to the original point that started us down this road. The federal government IS powerless to stop corporations from incorporating into seperate subsideraries and moving the HQ off shore. Could the US government do as you first suggested and completely cut off American companies from operating in the USA? Generally, no, they couldnt. Is there a 1% chance they could? Perhaps. Just as there is a 1% chance the POTUS could order the Army to occupy a US city.

 

[Jhhnn]

...well, neither is age of consent. Does that mean constitutionally I can bonk my 14 year old neighbor?

In some states, yes, yes you can, depending on your age.

If you're rich & her family is poor, they might sell her to you, provided you marry her... the age of marriage w/ parental consent in some states is quite low... Ask Jerry Lee Lewis.

Of course, if some Repubs have their way, we'll abolish child labor laws, abortion & contraception to re-create the perfect society of Dickens' England...

 

[blackangst1]

In some states, yes, yes you can, depending on your age.

If you're rich & her family is poor, they might sell her to you, provided you marry her... the age of marriage w/ parental consent in some states is quite low... Ask Jerry Lee Lewis.

Of course, if some Repubs have their way, we'll abolish child labor laws, abortion & contraception to re-create the perfect society of Dickens' England...

Well hell I guess I never thought about that

BTW which Republicans want to outlaw child labor laws and contraception? Just curious

 

[Jhhnn]

Well hell I guess I never thought about that

BTW which Republicans want to outlaw child labor laws and contraception? Just curious

http://articles.latimes.com/2011/nov/21/news/la-pn-gingrich-child-labor-20111121

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MBO9tNNejo

Just for starters...

 

[blackangst1]

http://articles.latimes.com/2011/nov/21/news/la-pn-gingrich-child-labor-20111121

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MBO9tNNejo

Just for starters...

Ah the Newt thing again. Lets not rehash that shall we? In the context of his quote, he is correct. And, really, taking the view of one or two people and painting the entire party with it?

Well, thats typical I guess.

 

[Jhhnn]

Ah the Newt thing again. Lets not rehash that shall we? In the context of his quote, he is correct. And, really, taking the view of one or two people and painting the entire party with it?

Well, thats typical I guess.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_facto..._and_the_republican_war_on_contraception.html

I'll let you Google "Republicans against child labor laws" yourself.

 

[blackangst1]

http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_facto..._and_the_republican_war_on_contraception.html

I'll let you Google "Republicans against child labor laws" yourself.

Good God man. Can you read?

Wanting to end funding of federal money for abortion/contraception != outlaw it

The few GOP who have either proposed or commented on ending (some) child labor laws (mainly Maine) have done so on two premises: 1. remove the minimum age requirement, and 2. remove the maximum hours/week allowed to work. I dont have a problem with either of those.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Bullcrap.

You either got lucky and/or networked with someone that has money.

I highly doubt you were 100% responsible for digging out from the "dirt poor".

Based on your posts that you have relatives in Politics I would guess it is the latter.

Yeah, got lucky :roll; And no, my family doesn't have money. My uncle served 25+ in the Navy, got out, became a cop, then ran for the state house. But yeah his "network" the last 2 years is what did it. :roll;

Quit being so blind dave and realize that if you'd just for once stop blaming everyone else - you might actually make something of yourself.

BTW, I had to drag my wife kicking and screaming to Iowa(i didn't even have a job lined up when I moved) but you keep thinking that it couldn't have been something that I did - it must have been given to me. :roll;

 

[Jhhnn]

The few GOP who have either proposed or commented on ending (some) child labor laws (mainly Maine) have done so on two premises: 1. remove the minimum age requirement, and 2. remove the maximum hours/week allowed to work. I dont have a problem with either of those.

So we *can* put those ten year olds back to working 40 hrs/wk in the mills, right?

Repubs have been waging war on contraception for some while, with Santorum going on about it at some length (he placed a close second in Iowa, remember?) with even Romney ceding to "life begins at conception" which would outlaw birth control pills....

Although Republicans traditionally have not been against contraceptive birth control (they typically have not had a view either way) the party is growing more anti-birth control, particularly as it comes increasingly under control of the Tea Party. Current Republican-led legislation in Wisconsin and Indiana seeks to put serious constraints on access to birth control. Mitt Romney, who is pro-life, has said he identifies life as beginning at conception rather than implantation, which means he is against contraceptives such as the birth control pill. Former president George W. Bush attempted to strip contraceptive coverage for federal employees, appointed anti-birth control leader David Hager to the FDA panel that approves and expands access to contraceptive methods, chose another contraception opponent to oversee the nation's contraceptive program for the poor, and invested unprecedented sums into sex-ed programs that prohibit mention of contraception.

Read more: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Are_Republicans_against_birth_control#ixzz1jfl72q9G

Abstinence only, baby!